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Estoner · 06-28-2011, 02:05 PM

Hello.

First of all, sorry for my English I'll try to explain myself as best as I can.

I really don't know what else to do.

I had a mild crash few weeks ago and I repared it. The thing is that I can't adjust the traking. I tried everything I know and it is not working.

I adjust it and when I have the throttle stick in normal mode at 50% the traking is perfect but right after take off when I give same negative pitch to land the traking goes crazy gain. And if I start with the normal mode and them swich to idle up 1 it appears again. Other strange thing that I noticed is when it is on the floor just before it take off and I give negative pitch the traking goes crazy but if I move aileron or elev (wile it is at 50% throttle) the traking disappear and if I give negative again, appears.

I have all the shafts new and I don't know what the heck would it be

SUGGESTIONS, PLEASE. I'm a bit desperate.

Thanks in advance.

helienv · 06-28-2011, 10:43 PM

whitch heli and can u post a pic of your rotor? idk im a little confused seeing the rotor might help

Estoner · 06-29-2011, 02:17 AM

Sorry.

I forgot the most important. It is a Rave 450 with flybar.

Do you still need the pic? It is the regular Rave´s rotor.

Thanks

YooR3 · 06-29-2011, 02:45 AM

Servos?

Estoner · 06-29-2011, 10:04 AM

Hs5065mg brand new no jigging no estrange movements

Buzzin Brian · 06-29-2011, 10:15 AM

Thrust bearings in the blade grips comes to mind as well. Make sure the races are in the correct orientation.

Brian

Estoner · 06-29-2011, 10:37 AM

I´ll check the bearings and let you know. Thanks for the answers.

Anymore suggestions are welcome.

Estoner

Estoner · 06-29-2011, 10:45 AM

Servos HS5065MG brand new. No estrange movements

helienv · 06-29-2011, 04:49 PM

idk if im reading your description but sounds like your links are out is the head perfectly zeroed? what blades? some blades just suck and will never stay tracking idk still sounds like to me some how ur links are screwed up

Sao · 06-30-2011, 03:05 AM

Check the blade grips, it might be one of the arms is slightly bent

Estoner · 06-30-2011, 10:29 AM

Hello.

I checked the bearings of the blade grips and one of them was incorrectly. I'll have to put all together and try it to see.

Thanks everyone.

Cheers

Estoner · 07-03-2011, 10:39 AM

Well. I tried with the bearing correctly placed and It is still the same. Would be possible that the flybar is a little bent? I didn't change it after the crash just put it straight with my hands.

I'll try other things also.

Thanks.

MarshallB · 07-03-2011, 10:57 AM

Check those mixing arms and make sure they are all tight. A bent spindle comes to mind on tracking. Even if it is new make sure it is straight.

Estoner · 07-03-2011, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarshallB

Check those mixing arms and make sure they are all tight. A bent spindle comes to mind on tracking. Even if it is new make sure it is straight.

Ok I will check it carefully.

Thanks.

joecnc2006 · 07-03-2011, 12:16 PM

your linkage, did you get it resolved?

Mizark · 07-03-2011, 05:10 PM

I still tend to agree with Brian that its the thrust bearings being incorrectly installed as I have seen this quite a few times.

Do you know how to check if the thrust bearings are correct? A surprising number of people dont.

Jasmine2501 · 07-03-2011, 10:19 PM

Did you try replacing the feathering shaft? Do that when you check the bearings.

Estoner · 07-04-2011, 11:41 AM

I check all the ball links, no play in anyone. I change the feathering shaft in the last crash (I had have traking since them, never crashed again). I checked the thrust bearings putting all the grips apart and putting everything together from 0 paying attention carefully to the manual.

The only thing that last (I think) is the mixing arms bent.

I'll check everything again and let you know.

Thanks everyone.

Cheers

Estoner · 07-05-2011, 03:39 AM

OK... I think I found the problem

.

Checking everything I found that the screws that hold the seesaw in the hub were loosed, very loosed giving a lot of play to the whole seesaw and mixing arms.

I'll try tomorrow morning and will see.

Thanks a lot.

Cheers

Estoner · 07-05-2011, 11:13 AM

OK. That was the problem. (loosed screws)

But... After check that everything was working correctly I started to do the few tricks I know (very basics) and trying new ones. When I was doing Tic-Tocs I heard a weird noise and the tail started spinning and CRASH...

When I checked it the front tail gear was melted. I guess I mess with the mesh

. what should be the correct gear mesh?. I know the theory and I thought that I did it correctly but I didn't. I read all that I found about how to correct the mesh but I don't know which is the right one I mean the right space between gears

I'm using the black gears of course and my set up is 6s 1300mAh 25C, scorpion 2010kv, 14 tooth pinion, idel up 1 80% governor.

Thanks

Cheers

06-28-2011, 02:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Join Date: Mar 2011	Help with traking. Hello. First of all, sorry for my English I'll try to explain myself as best as I can. I really don't know what else to do. I had a mild crash few weeks ago and I repared it. The thing is that I can't adjust the traking. I tried everything I know and it is not working. I adjust it and when I have the throttle stick in normal mode at 50% the traking is perfect but right after take off when I give same negative pitch to land the traking goes crazy gain. And if I start with the normal mode and them swich to idle up 1 it appears again. Other strange thing that I noticed is when it is on the floor just before it take off and I give negative pitch the traking goes crazy but if I move aileron or elev (wile it is at 50% throttle) the traking disappear and if I give negative again, appears. I have all the shafts new and I don't know what the heck would it be SUGGESTIONS, PLEASE. I'm a bit desperate. Thanks in advance. Last edited by Estoner; 06-29-2011 at 02:19 AM..

06-30-2011, 03:05 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sao Registered Users Join Date: Apr 2004	Check the blade grips, it might be one of the arms is slightly bent __________________ Goblin 500 V-Bar, Goblin 380 V-Bar,T-Rex 500 V-Bar Align Cobra Fuz, E-Flite Blade 180CFX, TBS Gemini FPV, CYE Stingray FPV, some planks.

07-03-2011, 10:57 AM	#13 (permalink)
MarshallB Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Mar 2005	Check those mixing arms and make sure they are all tight. A bent spindle comes to mind on tracking. Even if it is new make sure it is straight. __________________ CurtisYoungblood.com, Next-D, Spyder Batteries

07-03-2011, 05:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
Mizark Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2007	I still tend to agree with Brian that its the thrust bearings being incorrectly installed as I have seen this quite a few times. Do you know how to check if the thrust bearings are correct? A surprising number of people dont. __________________ Mark Lilley Team Edge Rotorblades Team Byron Fuels Rotor Rage

07-03-2011, 10:19 PM	#17 (permalink)
Jasmine2501 Registered Users My HF Map location Join Date: Jun 2008	Did you try replacing the feathering shaft? Do that when you check the bearings. __________________ https://www.youtube.com/user/jasmine2501

06-28-2011, 10:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
helienv Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2010	whitch heli and can u post a pic of your rotor? idk im a little confused seeing the rotor might help

06-29-2011, 02:17 AM	#3 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	Sorry. I forgot the most important. It is a Rave 450 with flybar. Do you still need the pic? It is the regular Rave´s rotor. Thanks

06-29-2011, 02:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
YooR3 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2010	Servos?

06-29-2011, 10:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	Hs5065mg brand new no jigging no estrange movements

06-29-2011, 10:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Buzzin Brian Join Date: Apr 2004	Thrust bearings in the blade grips comes to mind as well. Make sure the races are in the correct orientation. Brian

06-29-2011, 10:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	I´ll check the bearings and let you know. Thanks for the answers. Anymore suggestions are welcome. Estoner

06-29-2011, 10:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	Servos HS5065MG brand new. No estrange movements

06-29-2011, 04:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
helienv Registered Users Join Date: Nov 2010	idk if im reading your description but sounds like your links are out is the head perfectly zeroed? what blades? some blades just suck and will never stay tracking idk still sounds like to me some how ur links are screwed up

06-30-2011, 10:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	Hello. I checked the bearings of the blade grips and one of them was incorrectly. I'll have to put all together and try it to see. Thanks everyone. Cheers

07-03-2011, 10:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	Well. I tried with the bearing correctly placed and It is still the same. Would be possible that the flybar is a little bent? I didn't change it after the crash just put it straight with my hands. I'll try other things also. Thanks.

07-03-2011, 12:16 PM	#15 (permalink)
joecnc2006 Registered Users Join Date: Jun 2011	your linkage, did you get it resolved?

07-04-2011, 11:41 AM	#18 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	I check all the ball links, no play in anyone. I change the feathering shaft in the last crash (I had have traking since them, never crashed again). I checked the thrust bearings putting all the grips apart and putting everything together from 0 paying attention carefully to the manual. The only thing that last (I think) is the mixing arms bent. I'll check everything again and let you know. Thanks everyone. Cheers

07-05-2011, 03:39 AM	#19 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	OK... I think I found the problem . Checking everything I found that the screws that hold the seesaw in the hub were loosed, very loosed giving a lot of play to the whole seesaw and mixing arms. I'll try tomorrow morning and will see. Thanks a lot. Cheers

07-05-2011, 11:13 AM	#20 (permalink)
Estoner Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Mar 2011	OK. That was the problem. (loosed screws) But... After check that everything was working correctly I started to do the few tricks I know (very basics) and trying new ones. When I was doing Tic-Tocs I heard a weird noise and the tail started spinning and CRASH... When I checked it the front tail gear was melted. I guess I mess with the mesh. what should be the correct gear mesh?. I know the theory and I thought that I did it correctly but I didn't. I read all that I found about how to correct the mesh but I don't know which is the right one I mean the right space between gears I'm using the black gears of course and my set up is 6s 1300mAh 25C, scorpion 2010kv, 14 tooth pinion, idel up 1 80% governor. Thanks Cheers

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