Helijive

[helicraze]

Not sure, never had them hand in hand, i was just speaking generally, eg 2 same class motors the higher KV seems more powerfull

[Justin Stuart]

I find swapping motors and blades a lot like going to the strippers or expensive retaurant, i always leave with an empty wallet and not satisfied!

:rotf

[Magneto]

Im still patiencely waiting for my new updated firmware helijive hopefully it will be soon and I will post the results.

[Magneto]

Good news guys I have the new updated Helijive its not been released yet to the262308public but they have sent me one to try out and they were nice enough to give me a black one but that color wont be avalible I will install it and report back with the results.

[Magneto]

heres a better pic 262309 And yes I will be using the vbar gov!

[Mystic3D]

Sweet!
I am sure it will be great on vbar!


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[Justin Stuart]

I am glad that Kontronik is putting a lot of effort into very carefully evaluating the HeliJive to make sure there are no user problems. I really like the company.

I like the black color.

[BigIreland]

Cool, soon we can start sending these back for updates.:bacon

[helicraze]

Lets hope the kosmic series is not too far away....

[Magneto]

My Camera take terrible pics so heres a few good pics it has beta v2 software and I just flew it for the first time all I can say is WOW what a difference and I was flying a powerjive previous no kicks and more power I love it ! Now im going to hook up bail out and more flights. 262624

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[helicraze]

So is bailout done via vbar or with jive setting???

Did you try original vbar gov with first helijive???

I wonder if the heli will wear quicker or not as much?

[MrMel]

Via VBar to control Auto Abort.

I wonder if the heli will wear quicker or not as much?

Wear? Less wear for sure, 20% lower peaks (higher avg if you push it though as holding RPM costs power when it comes down to pure wattage)
But just the softness in flight is VERY noticeable, try it, on any machine, just for fun, dont need to overdo it.

[Justin Stuart]

Good news.

[MrMel]

There is one risk of more wear though, those almost bladestops with restarts which is easy and fun is killer for the tail drivetrain :)

[Mystic3D]

No doubt it's all upside with VBar Gov. Now just wondering if HeliJive has a better softstart(no kick at startup) than YGE or HW?

[MrMel]

I have absolutely no kick with HW since 5.2, do you? (Soft start enabled in the ESC, and "just perfect" on the thottle low.

HeliJive will require you have Rampup 3 (default) in the VBar, else it getting harsh mid-spoolup, the inital start is controlled by the ESC.

[Mystic3D]

I have absolutely no kick with HW since 5.2, do you? (Soft start enabled in the ESC, and "just perfect" on the thottle low.

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VStabi 5.2 Pro
With HW120 hardware 1.0 FW 1.05, Xera 4035 480 - Minor Kick(10 deg), Xera 4530 - Major Kick(30 deg). Soft Start,

I replaced with YGE 160HV and can get less kick. very small kick(2 deg) on 4035, Still Minor( 10 deg) on 4530.

[MrMel]

How do you set the motor off setting?

[helicraze]

Via VBar to control Auto Abort.



Wear? Less wear for sure, 20% lower peaks (higher avg if you push it though as holding RPM costs power when it comes down to pure wattage)
But just the softness in flight is VERY noticeable, try it, on any machine, just for fun, dont need to overdo it.


Great stuff! I will buy 2 or 3 helijive once they have finalised it.

[Mystic3D]

How do you set the motor off setting?

Many many times.

1. ESC Endpoints set with Gov Disabled, -100 - +100 in Vbar Tx Screen
2. Then Collective Control = On
3. Remove Blades
4. Move Slider till motor starts, wait, move till motor stops(Note Value)
5. Add 5 as starting point
6. Put Value in Motor Stop
7. Collective Control off
8. Throttle Hold On
9. Mid Stick Throttle
10. Kick Throttle Hold off - Delay? Yes=Change Value
11. Repeat #10 till have lowest value without delay

I think it was around 105 on HW.

[Magneto]

Helicraze yes I hovered it with the kontronic gov just to check it and then went straight to vbar gov I have a few small tweaks to make other than that its plug and play I got some info from Mr Mel on the vbar gov and Into the mystic walked me thru the gov setup and the first flight was pretty much flawless I like it better than the jive gov. Its that good!:thumbup:

[MrMel]

Great stuff! I will buy 2 or 3 helijive once they have finalised it.

Keep in mind there will be two versions out there, new version will have designation v11
(there is v10 in stock at places so make sure you get right one)

[Mystic3D]

I want to see vid of initial kick with a scorp 4525 or 4530 Xera before i decide.


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[MrMel]

Initial start = Same as internal modes on a Jive, the first seconds = ESC driving, then it "let control over to Vbar"

[Mystic3D]

Initial start = Same as internal modes on a Jive, the first seconds = ESC driving, then it "let control over to Vbar"

I need an ESC for the Goblin, The YGE 160Hv is working flawless in the 700E so that is not going to be changed. No gov glitches from the Phase Output in Vbar Log. Only complaint is YGE has no clue how it works with VBar, they send you to Mikado, Mikado send you to YGE, Evil Circle of nowhere, (accountabilty>resolution)

The reality is the VBar is the head, and the ESC is now the tail of the dog. Sorry if lost in translation, it means the VBar Gov Support determines ESC Selection, not the other way around as it used to be.

Then you have the HeliJive, K took the time to get it right, Mr Mel supports it, not sure could ask any more than that. So the nod should go to HeliJive, Nod meaning a HeliJive is in my future.

Not trying to bash anyone, but the truth is the truth.