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dauste
08-06-2011, 02:11 AM
Hmmmm, sonething is missing to finish this puppy off, what could it be? What's the most insane thing I could do as a finishing touch?

How about this? Just ordered her from Insane Canopy, Only difference is my name for the pilot. Can't wait!!!! :bacon:banana:Bang:clappp:peace





http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=244618&stc=1&d=1312608621


Schweeeet canopy! :drool:

ragge1
08-06-2011, 12:16 PM
that canopy looks nice

Tomstoy2
08-07-2011, 02:00 AM
Thanks guys! :thumbup: After all I have been thru this year, not to mention at all the 4 before that, I figured I owed it to myself.
Obviously, the Insane Canopy is a hanger queen item, but damn if it don't set it off!

UPGl2AYDD
08-08-2011, 09:38 AM
Holy crap Tom, talk about a splurge! :D

Awesome stuff buddy. Just one edit to your post, that Avant IS a hanger queen, until we see otherwise it's never flown.

Grant_beltcp
08-08-2011, 11:13 AM
just had to make the file size about 1/5th of its origional, but finally managed to get it small enough to upload lol. Heres the latest pic of my 2 beaut's! (well, not the lastest as the nitros just blown the engine again yesterday lol.
http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=245138&stc=1&d=1312819891

Jonnyheli
08-08-2011, 11:32 AM
Tom, that is one very smart looking canopy. I agree, it should be for display only:shock:

Grant, they are very nice indeed. Your a lucky SOB. You still haven't answered my question... Which do you prefer the nitro or electric? And FBL or FB?

I have to say, if I was to choose, I would go for the FBL electric. It's a beauty.

Jonny

Ps. how much did that full scale in the background cost ya?:lol:

Grant_beltcp
08-08-2011, 11:55 AM
Sorry jonny - I keep forgetting!
The electric has Sooooooooo much power compared to the nitro, and with the FBL it flies soluper smooth and precise. The only thing it lacks is the precence of te Nitro in the air with the noise and everything, and also the short 5 min flight times. I'm loving both at the moment, but electric is easy!

Tomstoy2
08-08-2011, 02:20 PM
It's a display canopy only. Nothing wrong with the one I painted, though it's starting to show it's age a little.
Payment has been sent, should see it in about 4 weeks!

Tomstoy2
08-10-2011, 11:58 AM
Last item, how to power it.
Picked up from Perfect regulators a "safe-switch 2".

Dual power leads going to the controller, a switch to turn on/off and the posts allows the use of a bind plug to turn on/off also. Plug in the bind plug and the switch is off, pull it to power it on, think "remove before flight flag".

In flight, if the switch fail it will fail in the on position so you don't loose control.

http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=245576&stc=1&d=1312995359



All that's left now is to do the set-up! Not today, got "stuff" to do before work. Maybe tomorrow.

Tomstoy2
08-12-2011, 04:59 PM
Decided to play hooky today from work and work on my set-up instead.

Took forever! I have windows 7 and that means I have to turn off anti-virus and run explorer as administrator and do a manual down load of the driver. Vstabi needs to work on that.

Then, to pay, I couldn't access my account on paypal so I ended up logging in as a guest, that worked. I needed to upgrade to pro as I'm running the governor.

Got it all done, now all I need to do is to test it and see how well it works! Don't think I want to do that today, though. I haven't eaten yet, and I've tipped back a few pints now, so later for that.

Maybe I'll do one of Mikes tricks and polish my pipe!

Tomstoy2
08-12-2011, 05:28 PM
Things I found wrong!

I should probably mention this, especially for anybody else out there flying nitro, vibrations are a killer! I can't believe how lucky I get sometimes!!!

During the set-up I discovered ;
a. my tail blades had loosened up a bit. Explains the tail vibration I had last time I took it out.

b. I had lost 2 of my collective servo horn retaining bolts! The horn were still on the servos, just no bolts securing them. No problem, Torq uses a 3mm bolt thread so I just replaced the stupid Phillips heads with Allen heads instead and loctited them.


For those that are interrested, it's an interresting story about Mr. Phillips and how his screwdriver revolutionized the industrial age.

Other than that, Absolutely nothing else was wrong! Got to love that.

Also, got confirmation from Oat, at Insane Canopy, today saying he's recieved my payment. So, in about 4 weeks I'll recieve my new show canopy! :baconGot to love that!

sutty
08-12-2011, 07:13 PM
Wow, a post, I've been waiting for someone to post for nearly a day. What's up with you guys. On a more interesting note, I guess that's how it goes sometimes Tom. Pleased nothing went wrong in the air.

As for the show canopy, well yes, I saw your nice canopy shot, awesome canopy, but, it's not for me, as you know, any piece of moulded plastic that fits will do for me!, lol.

On as separate note I had a mental day with both the 250 and the 450, I was all over the place, crazy flying, and for moments, it was almost like I knew what I was doing, woo hoo.

Cheers

Sut

Tomstoy2
08-12-2011, 08:02 PM
There is a direct corelation between rc heli flying and fly-fishing, my friend. Both sports I've been isolated from for far too long.

Ok, I got good news/bad news.

The good news,,, I have Jacks consent that heli porn is allowable, as it doesn't fall in any un-allowable category, ( not like you're trying to hide another one of those damn heli's ). :quotes

Bad news,,, After much research and soul-searching, ( plus the fact that neither Kasama nor Avant have released any kind of information about the rumored 50 size ), I have come under the realization that;

a. no matter how much I like a 600 Mikado, at $2k, I'm not keen on it that much
b. 600 wreck costs really aren't that much cheaper than 90 size wreck costs.
c. For just a little less I could put together a 700 electric if I canabilized the servos
off the nitro.
d. A Kasama electric is $200 bucks more than Avant, and I kind of like the idea of
a Kasama electric.
e. it don't matter diddly-squat as nobody has either kit, nor motor/esc I want!
Seems both are seasonal releases. With IHRC comming up you would think
think they would populate the suppliers, wouldn't you?
f. I could pick up an Align 600 fbl super combo electric with their new 3gx for under
$1k, { now I haven't heard squat, good nor bad about the new 3gx, one has to assume that they have addressed their past mistakes and are now venturing into a whole new era of mistakes. I did hear that BX had something to do with it, don't know how true that is. They are supposed to be expandable, though ).

and finally'

g. I need help! Thought Jack was supposed to be organizing a meeting?

jperkosk
08-12-2011, 11:46 PM
Wow, a post, I've been waiting for someone to post for nearly a day. What's up with you guys.

Dragged Mrs onto the rented 35' sailboat and moving along Greek coast on the Ionian sea, 3G coverage a bit spotty here. Don't really know all that much what I'm doing at the moment (only had some fresh water sailing experience in the past), so threading very cautiously. GPS and more experienced friends on the second boat help, though. Found out the other day that Mrs can panic when the wind gets to force 5, so from now on the sailing is restricted to force 3-4 conditions (0-2 is for the engine putting only), and 5 and up is reserved for Greek wine and sex on the anchor in the nearest bay. Marine meteo is decent, so plenty of time to find the hideout. No helicopters for the next 2 weeks; life can be tough. :lol::lol::lol:

UPGl2AYDD
08-13-2011, 12:54 AM
There is a direct corelation between rc heli flying and fly-fishing, my friend. Both sports I've been isolated from for far too long.

Ok, I got good news/bad news.

The good news,,, I have Jacks consent that heli porn is allowable, as it doesn't fall in any un-allowable category, ( not like you're trying to hide another one of those damn heli's ). :quotes

Bad news,,, After much research and soul-searching, ( plus the fact that neither Kasama nor Avant have released any kind of information about the rumored 50 size ), I have come under the realization that;

a. no matter how much I like a 600 Mikado, at $2k, I'm not keen on it that much
b. 600 wreck costs really aren't that much cheaper than 90 size wreck costs.
c. For just a little less I could put together a 700 electric if I canabilized the servos
off the nitro.
d. A Kasama electric is $200 bucks more than Avant, and I kind of like the idea of
a Kasama electric.
e. it don't matter diddly-squat as nobody has either kit, nor motor/esc I want!
Seems both are seasonal releases. With IHRC comming up you would think
think they would populate the suppliers, wouldn't you?
f. I could pick up an Align 600 fbl super combo electric with their new 3gx for under
$1k, { now I haven't heard squat, good nor bad about the new 3gx, one has to assume that they have addressed their past mistakes and are now venturing into a whole new era of mistakes. I did hear that BX had something to do with it, don't know how true that is. They are supposed to be expandable, though ).

and finally'

g. I need help! Thought Jack was supposed to be organizing a meeting?

Tom, you either contemplating getting a women or another large helicopter.


Hmm, I've been doing a lot of pipe polishing lately... Just got a jug of nitro today, now for some castor and tail blades and I'll be flying!

Jonnyheli
08-13-2011, 09:54 AM
a. no matter how much I like a 600 Mikado, at $2k, I'm not keen on it that much
b. 600 wreck costs really aren't that much cheaper than 90 size wreck costs.
c. For just a little less I could put together a 700 electric if I canabilized the servos
off the nitro.
d. A Kasama electric is $200 bucks more than Avant, and I kind of like the idea of
a Kasama electric.
e. it don't matter diddly-squat as nobody has either kit, nor motor/esc I want!
Seems both are seasonal releases. With IHRC comming up you would think
think they would populate the suppliers, wouldn't you?
f. I could pick up an Align 600 fbl super combo electric with their new 3gx for under
$1k, { now I haven't heard squat, good nor bad about the new 3gx, one has to assume that they have addressed their past mistakes and are now venturing into a whole new era of mistakes. I did hear that BX had something to do with it, don't know how true that is. They are supposed to be expandable, though ).

and finally'

g. I need help! Thought Jack was supposed to be organizing a meeting?

I noticed a big jump in crash costs on a 90 compared to a 50. That's one reason I didn't go for a 90. The difference between a 450, 500 or 600 seems to be quite linear until you get to a 90.

That said, if I was going to go electric, I would get a 90 too, and the Srimok e is one bad ass helicopter. If you can afford to, get the Srimok e. I wouldn't turn a Srimok into a scale heli however...

Jonny

Tomstoy2
08-13-2011, 12:13 PM
Here is a quick example, one Align 600esp frame side costs $60, the same for my Avant $85. Say you really smash her backdoor-in, (learned that from you), an additional $50, not bad.
Everybody knows blades are what drive up the cost to repair our heli's, 623"s $90, 713's $30 bucks more.
So, there are your major hitters. $80 so far, add a few other odds and ends, figure about $100 more to repair after a major smashing.
Put onto print, it's not so bad.

It's not like you put one of these back together over night either, or at least I don't. I've found it cheaper to not stock parts.
It's best to give it a total tear down and order everything you need at once and wait for the parts, 3 days, so what, or at least in this country. Vib's are murder on these things and a nitro motor puts out a lot of vib's, performance engines are worse. My YS puts out more vibes than an O.S. simply because it's a long stroke design, has to, nature of the beast.

I agree that a Kasama electric would be the way to go. There's a good expense. Knowing how many $k I have invested in my Avant,,,,, that Kasama would be about the same, knowing me, ( I'm on Amainhobby's wait list for one ).


Still, a 600 size appeals to me.
I'm rather disapointed in the lack of development reciently from the manufacturers! Seems that the guys that make a 600 got tied up in the rush to catch up with Align's 550.
Yes, I looked at Compass 6hv, which seems to have some very interresting problems with fbl controllers.
The Fusion is another one I looked at, doesn't suffer from any of the above mention plagues the 6hv does.
Mikado, though, now that's a machine! When I say $2k, that's with V-bar, custom canopy, upgrade motor mount, MKS servos, Ice 160HV. Western Robotics super bec, blades, everything to get it to fly.

Don't want a Compass or fusion, or Outrage, Which leaves a Mikado, or, as I said, for 1/2 that cost I could go for the Align 600esp super combo, and even if I ditch the 3gx, I think I got enough high end fbl controllers.

See, here's the deal, the whole crux of my delemma, and the reason JACK, MR. GRAND PUBA, needs to get off his ass and hold a meeting, because I need one badly!!!
The 250 and the 450 are ok, but fly nothing like a 500. At this point in my career as a heli pilot, I'm really not interrested any more in flying anything smaller than a 500.
Bearing that in mind, I'm afraid that a 550 just wouldn't be enough to curb my lust. I really don't want another 700 size. The Avant nitro flys just fine, thank you, doubling the horse power sound scarry as hell, really!

The choices then ;

Mikado, which gives me wood, or

Align, which would be fine, really, and as I expect it would become my main flier, probably be the best bet. Not to mention that of all the choices it's the only thing in stock!!!! I could get around the Mikado/motor combo issue if I went to another source for the motor, or went with the se, then the motor combo works ok, but then you're back to a 700.

Wood vs. practicality?

Damn Jack,,,, S.O.S. buddy!!!!! :Fan

superrmario
08-13-2011, 12:21 PM
Going in today!

3G is no more..

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

Jonnyheli
08-13-2011, 01:58 PM
I never considered getting a 90, I always thought that they were too powerful and expensive to crash. Which, for me, they are. 'Course, not long after getting a 600, I started craving a 90 lol:rotf

My point is, the 600 is my limit, cost wise. I could barely afford to crash the 600, so a 90 was deffinitely out of my reach. That's probably why I have always thought that 90s are a lot more expensive to crash.

The Trex 600 is a good choice. Don't forget the new 600 pro. The problem with that being that it's brand new, so you don't know how solid the design is. But, it does look very cool from the pictures.

Jonny

dauste
08-13-2011, 02:40 PM
Don't forget you also have the Furion 6 ;) and also Kasama is just about to bring out the Faifa 600 E as well.

Can't remember if I already posted this, but here is Adam giving my F6 a good spanking (just before I gave it that even better spanking)! LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35EpDTV1B8w

Jonnyheli
08-13-2011, 03:17 PM
I thought Tom ruled out the Furion (for some reason)? I might be wrong.

Jonny

Tomstoy2
08-13-2011, 11:47 PM
I did, for no other reason thaI don't want one! They are a famtastic heli! No doubt. It's a what do I desire thing!

dauste
08-14-2011, 02:17 AM
Sounds like the Srimok 600e would be right up your street then!

Jonnyheli
08-14-2011, 05:39 AM
I didn't know Kasama were doing a 600 heli. I gotta see what one of those looks like!

Jonny

Grant_beltcp
08-14-2011, 05:39 AM
My insignificant thoughts on this one for your Tom -
I have a Kasama 90N and E, and the next one down from that is the 250 which I only fly to have a crash :)

2 90's is awesome, but sometimes I feel (ok all the time) that I need something that little bit smaller to take the stress of crashing a 90 away. Although not a huge amount difference in cost, it's certainly noticeable and makes the Heli easier to spanking then :).
I'm waiting for the new Kasama FaiFa 600E which should be out early 2012, but I did consider buying another 50 size to fill the gap untill the Kasama arrives.

I've flown pretty much every 50 size Heli out there (and 90), and know which one I would buy!
I've flown many Mikado Logo's, they do fly very well - but would I buy one? Don't think so! The problem I found is that they're just like flying the sim, they have no presence in the air and just don't do it for me. Also a light crash cam really brake them.

Outrage 50's - they're OK, very much like Align, good value heli's that do what they should do. Hence the good pricing.

Align 600, the old 600E was terrible on my view, but the new one looks pretty mental! Going by the performance of both the new 700e and 550, I would say this is an affordable killer of a machine - but everyone has one!

MA Furion 6- you probably don't know much about MA, but quite a few years back MA were the ONLY heli's to fly back when they had the Stratus. There's been a big gap since then but they then got the furion450 out which is an inceadibly built Heli, and now the fury 55 and Furion 6 are in my opinion about the best flying 50's with plenty of presence in the air! I think the servo layout causes for a bulky looking canopy, butna nice design disquises that.

On that note, if your looking for something bloody awesome and don't care on the size then the Kasama 90E ticks that box fully - if your wanting a cheaper but good flying 90 then the 700E seems pretty ballistic!
If your looking like me for a 600E, theny first choice would obviously be the new Kasama 600E, that will be awesome - but in the meantime I would get either a new trex 600 E on 12s as you then get all the electronic to swap over later, or the furion6.

Abit of an essay, but just my experience on the matter lol