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readyheli
04-05-2007, 02:19 PM
New bulletin:

***Futaba 12FG 2.4GHz FASST™ Radio System***


Photo: Attached.


Taking twelve-channel control to a new level!

Futaba’s new 12FG radio combines the unmatched precision of 2048 resolution with the groundbreaking advantages of Futaba’s proven FASST 2.4GHz system. This is the radio for discerning R/C pilots who insist on state-of-the-art features and functions for the most precise control imaginable. And because it’s from Futaba, you can sell it with confidence knowing that the industry’s finest research and development has gone into it – making it a real value for you and your customers!

The advantages of FASSTTM Futaba 2.4GHz systems:

Constant Channel Shifting
Other 2.4GHz systems hold firm to one or two frequencies, increasing the potential for interference. The frequency of Futaba 2.4GHz FASST systems shift every 2 milliseconds, so there are no signal conflicts or interruptions — and no need for a frequency pin!

Pre-VisionTM Packet Screening Technology
2.4GHz FASST scans incoming data and applies sophisticated error correction techniques — resulting in a system that gives you a solid, impenetrable connection with your model.

Dual Antenna Diversity (DAD)
Futaba 2.4GHz FASST systems seamlessly select the best reception between two receiver antennas, so there’s no loss of signal.

100x Faster Antenna Switching
If the receiver notices a problem with the data coming into one antenna, it rapidly switches to the other - looking for the sharpest signal.
*Comparing the R606FS receiver to the AR6000 receiver.

Custom-Developed IC Chips
Futaba uses custom IC chips that have been designed specifically for radio-control — ensuring quality, reliability, and safety. This is why Futaba FASST systems are faster and more reliable than the competition.

14-channel “all-in-one” receiver
With the R6014FS receiver modelers will be able to take advantage of all twelve channels on their 12FG. The R6014FS receiver, included with the 12FG is the first spread spectrum receiver to offer more than eight channels. Full-range systems from other manufacturers include a bigger, two-piece receiver, and you must purchase a smaller park flyer receiver separately.


Over 2x Less Minimum Latency
Latency is the elapsed time between your movement of the transmitter controls and servo response. In Futaba 2.4GHz FASST systems, that response can happen over twice as fast — so you feel less like you’re “out in front” leading your model, and more like you’re inside driving or flying it.
*When comparing the 6EX FASST system to the DX7.

Easy Link TM
Futaba 2.4GHz FASST systems leave the factory already linked. Once linked the receiver will recognize and respond ONLY to that transmitter. Binding more receivers is not a problem — the linking process is simple...just push a button on the receiver.

Features:
Priced lower than other 12-channel radios!
R6014FS Receiver
Quad-Bearing Gimbals
SD Card Data Storage & Transfer (SD card sold separately)
Pre-Programmed Mixes
Finely Tuned Setting Adjustments
Variable Dual Rates (VDR)
Servo Grouping
255 x 196 LCD Screen with Adjustable Contrast
7.2V 1700mAh NiMH transmitter battery – for longer life
30 model memory

Specs:
2048 G3 resolution for real-time response
Combines airplane and glider functions into one program
Includes helicopter programming
Offers 8 flight conditions
Features digital trims on all 4 main channels
10 programmable mixes

Stock Numbers:
FUTK9275 12FGA FASST R6014FS AIR MD 2 N H
FUTK9276 12FGH FASST R6014FS HELI MD 2 N H
FUTK9277 12FGA FASST R6014FS AIR MD 1 N H
FUTK9278 12FGH FASST R6014FS HELI MD 1 N H


In Stock: Early Summer

Tom Fiddler
04-05-2007, 02:40 PM
Cool...what's the price??

DebianDog
04-05-2007, 02:50 PM
Price on the R6014FS too

readyheli
04-05-2007, 02:52 PM
has not been released to market yet...ill see what i can dig up for a msrp.

MarkD
04-05-2007, 04:01 PM
The Futaba site mentions Early Summer for the release of the radio, Rx and modules :D

Kinger
04-05-2007, 05:06 PM
So the question is, does the FG have less latency than a converted 14 or 12Z? Maybe it's in all that text and I missed it somewhere.

OICU812
04-05-2007, 05:57 PM
Ok John are you taking pre orders or what is the deal?

Trooper Sam
04-05-2007, 06:17 PM
And bless 'em, the 12Z-14MZ module promises full 14 channel capability! :banana

DavidH
04-05-2007, 08:43 PM
So the question is, does the FG have less latency than a converted 14 or 12Z? Maybe it's in all that text and I missed it somewhere.


The way I understand it. The 12G and modules for 12Z/14MZ will all have the same specs. They will all have a resolution of 2048.

Here is some information. It may be elsewhere, but this was sent to me early this AM.

Constant Channel Shifting
Other 2.4GHz systems hold firm to one or two frequencies, increasing
the potential for interference. The frequency of Futaba 2.4GHz FASST
systems shift every 2 milliseconds, so there are no signal conflicts
or interruptions — and no need for a frequency pin!

Pre-VisionTM Packet Screening Technology
2.4GHz FASST scans incoming data and applies sophisticated error
correction techniques — resulting in a system that gives you a solid,
impenetrable connection with your model.

Dual Antenna Diversity (DAD)
Futaba 2.4GHz FASST systems seamlessly select the best reception
between two receiver antennas, so there's no loss of signal.

100x Faster Antenna Switching
If the receiver notices a problem with the data coming into one
antenna, it rapidly switches to the other - looking for the sharpest
signal.

Custom-Developed IC Chips
Futaba uses custom IC chips that have been designed specifically for
radio-control — ensuring quality, reliability, and safety. This is
why Futaba FASST systems are faster and more reliable than the
competition.

14-channel "all-in-one" receiver
With the R6014FS receiver modelers will be able to take advantage of
all twelve channels on their 12FG. The R6014FS receiver, included
with the 12FG is the first spread spectrum receiver to offer more
than eight channels. Full-range systems from other manufacturers
include a bigger, two-piece receiver, and you must purchase a smaller
park flyer receiver separately.

Over 2x Less Minimum Latency
Latency is the elapsed time between your movement of the transmitter
controls and servo response. In Futaba 2.4GHz FASST systems, that
response can happen over twice as fast — so you feel less like
you're "out in front" leading your model, and more like you're inside
driving or flying it.

Easy Link TM
Futaba 2.4GHz FASST systems leave the factory already linked. Once
linked the receiver will recognize and respond ONLY to that
transmitter. Binding more receivers is not a problem — the linking
process is simple...just push a button on the receiver.

Features:
Priced lower than other 12-channel radios!
R6014FS Receiver
Quad-Bearing Gimbals
SD Card Data Storage & Transfer (SD card sold separately)
Pre-Programmed Mixes
Finely Tuned Setting Adjustments
Variable Dual Rates (VDR)
Servo Grouping
255 x 196 LCD Screen with Adjustable Contrast
7.2V 1700mAh NiMH transmitter battery – for longer life
30 model memory

Specs:
2048 G3 resolution for real-time response
Combines airplane and glider functions into one program
Includes helicopter programming
Offers 8 flight conditions
Features digital trims on all 4 main channels
10 programmable mixes

David

Skiddz
04-06-2007, 01:50 AM
I think I'll start saving now...

sookainian
04-06-2007, 04:12 AM
Will Futaba be coming out a 14FG 2.4GHz FASST system ?? it will be dam cool :lolol

DavidH
04-06-2007, 10:09 AM
Why would you want a 14FG?
You do realize the 12FG has a few less features than the 12Z? That is one of the reasons the 12FG was introduced a couple months ago.
So I don't know why someone would want the radio to have two more channels unless they were into scale and needed those two channels. Not many models are going to use more than 8 channels in the heli side of the hobby.

David

Tom Fiddler
04-06-2007, 10:50 AM
I would guess the bottom part of the 12-14 module also plugs into the trainer port??? It say's no wires in the ad? Really like to see a pic of the back.

MichaelT1960
04-06-2007, 01:59 PM
Yes I agree......what about a pic of the module connected to a 14MZ???

DavidH
04-06-2007, 02:48 PM
I would guess the bottom part of the 12-14 module also plugs into the trainer port??? It say's no wires in the ad?

I am a member of Team Futaba and asked some questions about how the new 2.4 module would connect to the 12Z and 14MZ. I would think you have seen the photoshopped picture floating around on some of the other forums.

Here is the reply I got back to the question I got back to how the module plugged into the 12Z/14MZ.

We don't have other photos of it at the moment. The module base
drops into the existing module slot in the TX. There is an outer
"larger" area that will rest on the back of the TX. It does not cover
anything that will limit the use of external ports. The photoshopped
module doesn't fit the way it does in reality.



David

Tom Fiddler
04-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Thanks David. I saw the pic.
After more research I am leaning toward believing it does NOT use the trainer port.
Good to have team people here.
The small part of the module does seem to have the release tabs in it.

DavidH
04-06-2007, 04:29 PM
None of the Futaba 2.4 ghz modules use the trainer port. The 7 and 8 channel modules fit right into the existing slot fully.
The 12 Z /14MZ one is a little larger to incorporate the antenna in to the module. If it was same size as the original module, I doubt there is room to install antenna like the 7 and 8 ch module will use.

The 12Z and 14MZ module will utilize the G3 2048 resolution available from the transmitter to drive it also. So with the 2.4 ghz that should even make it faster according to what I have seen some people write on here.

Also the 12FG is a module radio also, At least that is the impression I get from reading this.
TM-14: 14-Channel Module and R6014FS 14-Channel Receiver
Fits the 14MZ, 12Z, and the NEW 12FG radio.
*Capable of using all 14 channels with Futaba Module/Receiver set

The 72/40 mhz sells at Ishii Mokei in Japan for 96,600 yen. That includes 4X 3151 servos also. That converts to $810 USD at todays exchange rate.
So I would think the 12FG would be about $800 here in the USA. That will most likely be TX and RX and a few accessories.

David

EKIM
04-16-2007, 06:14 PM
here is the real non-photo shopped image taken at the toledo show and here is a thread on rr where it was posted

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t339470p1/

dogg5306
04-16-2007, 06:30 PM
Looking great! :D

EKIM
04-16-2007, 06:55 PM
here are a few more shots of it from the teambob00 website

DavidH
04-16-2007, 06:58 PM
Should have left them guessing. That kills uses the data/trainer power theory. LOL

David

EKIM
04-16-2007, 07:04 PM
Should have left them guessing. That kills uses the data/trainer power theory. LOL

David

he also has a pic of the spektrum module in the 14 on his site, not exactly as clean looking as the futaba :D

(pics fixed now)

DavidH
04-16-2007, 07:15 PM
he also has a pic of the spektrum module in the 14 on his site, not exactly as clean looking as the futaba



Lots of other differences between the Spektrum and the Futaba modules for the 12Z/14MZ also.

With the Futaba modules all the channels available in each radio will be able to be used with the 2.4 module. Also 2048 resolution will be used.

The Spektrum will only be able to utilize 8 channels since it must use a PPM signal to drive the module.

David

SteveL
04-17-2007, 08:59 AM
Receivers will probably be about half the price.
I am still going to wait for Futaba.