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mark95f
04-11-2007, 05:38 AM
Has anyone tried to put the 2.4GHZ 4-in-1 control unit into their Blade CP Pro. Will it work ?
Buzzkill
04-11-2007, 11:22 AM
From a CX2 ??
Anubis328
04-11-2007, 06:24 PM
I (along with a bunch of people) have a Spectrum AR6100 receiver in my CP. I haven't looked that closely at a CX2, but if you can get the receiver seperated from everything else, it'll probably work. It'd be cheaper to just get a 6100 though.
Has anyone tried binding a Spectrum receiver to the E-Flite radio?
mark95f
04-11-2007, 06:56 PM
I am looking to us 2.4 controller available from e-flight separately. with a DX7 radio.
Anubis328
04-11-2007, 06:58 PM
If you're running a DX7, I'd say just get the AR6100. That's what I'm using in mine, and it works fine.
Gino CP
04-11-2007, 08:53 PM
From the looks of it the 2.4ghz Eflite tx might still be using the same pots that are prone to getting dirty. That causes glitching. So while the 2.4ghz tx may be benefitting from spread spectrum convenience, soon it will be having problems with the glitchy pots as well.
mark95f
04-12-2007, 08:20 AM
Any help with installing 6100 into Blade cp Pro with DX7 radio
Gino CP
04-12-2007, 08:45 AM
Connect throttle lead to to rx maked thr. Tail lead to Rud. Front servo o ele. Left rear servo to Aux1. Right rear servo to Aile.
Tell me what you have so far for your BCPP. I can prepare a draft Programming setup. For now, read the manual on how to create a heli profile (model) and how to enter the menus and input settings.
mark95f
04-12-2007, 01:08 PM
I'm using the g90 head lock gyro also.
Thanks, i'll be out for awhile but i'll try your setup.
Gino CP
04-12-2007, 07:34 PM
Ok, I'll prepare the setup sheet. Do not connect the gyro sense servo lead to the rx. This puts the heli in HH mode. Reduce Gain and Proportion to minimum. Later you can experiment with the 22% 3-in-1 Gain approach and max G90 Gain.
Murdock
04-12-2007, 09:24 PM
Gino,
Please excuse this interuption I'm sorry to butt in on this thread, although now that I've read through it I'm glad I have. Please take a quick look at my thread about my CPP SeeSawing and advise if you can. Again I'm very sorry for interupting but I need some help please.
Gino CP
04-12-2007, 10:50 PM
Here's a setup draft for the DX7 and AR6100. Fine tune for good throttle response and smooth Stunt 1 and Stunt 2 transitions.
[THRO HOLD]
>HOLD POS. -5.0%
SW:RUDD D/R
[SWASH MIX]
3 SERVOS
AILE +63%º
120 º ELEV +60%
PIT +30%
- EXP ACT
* Changing to + or - reverses direction of action.
[TRAVEL ADJUST]
THRO
H 100 (set this high enough until 3-in-1 turns red full throttle)
L 100 (set this high enough until 3-in-1 arms)
Rest 100%
[SUB TRIM]
All 0
[REVERSING SWITCH]
1 N, 2R, 3R, 4R, 5N, 6N, 7N (ch 5 depends on your g90. I don’t use this channel. I did not connect gyro sense so it runs hh mode always)
[AUTO D/R EXP]
All INH
[D/R 7 EXP]
RUDD
EXP LIN
D/R 100%
ELEV
EXP +3%
D/R 100%
AILE
EXP +3%
D/R 100%
[TIMER]
DOWN-T
15 min (adjust according to your typical flightime)
[PROG MIX3]
INH
[PROG MIX2]
INH
[PROG MIX1]
INH
[REVO MIX]
All 0%
[PITCH CURVE]
HOLD
0 INH 50 INH 100
ST-2
0 INH 50 INH 100
ST-1
O INH 50 INH 100
NORM
50 INH 50 INH 100
[THRO CURVE]
ST-2
100-INH-90-INH-100 (adjust no. 3 point for smooth idle up transition)
ST-1
100-INH-70-INH-100 (adjust no. 3 point for smooth idle up transition)
NORM
0-INH-50-INH-100
mark95f
04-13-2007, 05:35 AM
Thanks for your input, i'll try it out... :noteworthy
upstech
04-15-2007, 07:40 PM
This is great! I just got my DX7 & 6100 in the mail over the weekend and I was thinking to myself, "Self, this is a lot of programming stuff to figure out. I wonder if anybody has done this before." And here it is!
Thanks Gino CP. I'll try it out this week and let you know how it goes.
Gino CP
04-15-2007, 09:08 PM
I made a correction above. Do not choose Gear>>Gyro in Input select. Leave it as GEAR>INH. This disables the GRYO SENSE menu. Disconnect the Gyro's gyro sense cable from the rx. This make it operate in HH mode. This is better. Make your gain adjustment on the gyro pot.
Tweak your throttle curve so you get a soft spoolup and are hovering above midstick in Normal mode. See that the heli is not bogged down all the way to full stick. Adjust Stunt modes accordingly so there is a higher middle point but a smooth transtion nonetheless. Stunt2 can be set near flat or flat. Stunt1 can be flat if you can handle the jump and baldes do not flutter.
Anubis328
04-17-2007, 07:56 AM
Hey Gino...
I actually used the GEAR>>GEAR setup. With it set up this way, you can change your setting on a +/- 100 scale. I have mine both at 100 using the 20-25% in the 3 in 1 as explained in this month's issue of RCHeli mag.
This gives me the option of using the gear switch to turn heading hold on and off.
I agree that the Gyro Sense option kind of sucks, but using the Gear switch works pretty well.
As a side note... Think of the first word (Gear>) as the location on the receiver. This makes more sense if you're using the AR7000, but the first word is your location on the receiver. The second one (>Gear) is your location on the transmitter.
Having both set to gear will mean you're pluging the gyro into the gear port on the receiver, and using the gear switch to turn heading hold on and off.
If you prefer your Gyro switch on the right instead of the left, you'd just have to set it to GEAR>>AUX2.
We're using 6 channel receivers gear, and 7 channel radios... we might as well take advantage when possible.
Let me know if this helps.
Gino CP
04-17-2007, 09:30 AM
I tried that. It didn't work for my 4200kv 10T and DD tail setup. I use full separates. The 3-in-1 couldn't handle the tail. I use an ICS50 J esc.
Anyway I see no point plugging it in because Tail is so solid and precise in HH mode. Besides I've suffered enough crash damage trying to make that gyro sense work. Why fix something that ain't broke.