Pictures of injuries caused by RC Helicopters

[Tim Smith]

I completly agree tooo The Buck does stop with the owner.But who educate the owners that are not educated .(A BOOK MAYBE) That is not what I was trying to imply .The thread got outta hand when archiblad could not see what I was trying to say.
IF People were Better educated about the dangers and they knew before hang then maybe thing would be a bit different for the safety record .ALl I was trying to say was there should be a better BOOK Included in the package . But all you touchy girls here gotta try to run the thread in too the ground.

Put Better books in the Box for the Newbies Then maybe they Might not have a Accident
I don;t why this is hard for every body to accept in here

[Skarn]

Put Better books in the Box for the Newbies Then maybe they Might not have a Accident. I don;t why this is hard for every body to accept in here


Probably for the same reason you won't accept the fact that it's NOT the manufacturers responsibility, it's the owner! Plain and simple.

But no, you claim "all you touchy girls here gotta try to run the thread in too the ground." and resort to name calling when in reality, you appear to be the only "touchy girl" since no one agrees with you.

Skarn

[rdlohr]

I completly agree tooo The Buck does stop with the owner.But who educate the owners that are not educated .(A BOOK MAYBE) That is not what I was trying to imply .The thread got outta hand when archiblad could not see what I was trying to say.
IF People were Better educated about the dangers and they knew before hang then maybe thing would be a bit different for the safety record .ALl I was trying to say was there should be a better BOOK Included in the package . But all you touchy girls here gotta try to run the thread in too the ground.

Put Better books in the Box for the Newbies Then maybe they Might not have a Accident
I don;t why this is hard for every body to accept in here
First time I've ever been called a "touchy girl" . LOL.

I didn't intend to "to run the thread in too the ground". I just didn't want any reader to get the idea that responsibility to fly safely was not theirs and theirs alone.

I have no problem with manufacturers doing better to educate people but I don't expect it or count on it.

Rick

[Tim Smith]

I guess I get like a Tuchy gurl too. It hard in a forum some times to stay with your original intent of words and meanings with thing.s ........I been going thru alot latley with my back and another up coming surgery so I have been a grummpy F%$3k of sorts .Sorry

But Yes again it agree with the Ultimate responsibility lyes in the hands of the user the make conscience good discisions with there heli.......
I was just wanting to see some better end user Education to help things along .........

[rdlohr]

I guess I get like a Tuchy gurl too. It hard in a forum some times to stay with your original intent of words and meanings with thing.s ........I been going thru alot latley with my back and another up coming surgery so I have been a grummpy F%$3k of sorts .Sorry

But Yes again it agree with the Ultimate responsibility lyes in the hands of the user the make conscience good discisions with there heli.......
I was just wanting to see some better end user Education to help things along .........
Who knows, maybe one of the manufacturers wil read this and take it to heart.
Its all good. Your heart is in the right place! Good luck with your surgury!
:hug:

Rick

[rdlohr]

Now, back to the pictures of injuries so that we do OUR part to educate people.

Rick

[cbergen]

If I may guys, as a manufacturer of these heli's,

I can certainly spend the time to put together a manual, detailing the best way to put our birds together, how to set them up and operate them.

What I CANNOT tell you is all the ways to do it WRONG!

For instance, when the manual specifically states to grease the thrust bearings, what exactly would you think that means? That it's an OPTION??

If I try to come up with ALL the stupid things that I have heard about over the years, add that to the stupid things that I'm sure Tim at Minair has seen or heard about, how thick of a book do you want? And would you READ it? Christ, most people aren't reading the instructions we have now!!

What you are asking for is a "Don't Do" Manual. Don't turn on your heli first, don't try to start the heli with the radio off, don't fly within 10 feet of yourself (or 15, or 20) don't fly with low batteries, don't fly with loose connections, OMG, how many can you come up with??

Even IF you had a "Don't Do" manual, sometimes things will STILL go wrong, electronics fail, mechanical parts fail, batteries go dead. In the end, it is up to YOU to make the decision to go FLY.

I do ask this, though, Never, never, NEVER fly alone. If something does go wrong and YOU are incapacitated, WHO is going to call 911?.......

[rdlohr]

If I may guys, as a manufacturer of these heli's,

I can certainly spend the time to put together a manual, detailing the best way to put our birds together, how to set them up and operate them.

What I CANNOT tell you is all the ways to do it WRONG!

For instance, when the manual specifically states to grease the thrust bearings, what exactly would you think that means? That it's an OPTION??

If I try to come up with ALL the stupid things that I have heard about over the years, add that to the stupid things that I'm sure Tim at Minair has seen or heard about, how thick of a book do you want? And would you READ it? Christ, most people aren't reading the instructions we have now!!

What you are asking for is a "Don't Do" Manual. Don't turn on your heli first, don't try to start the heli with the radio off, don't fly within 10 feet of yourself (or 15, or 20) don't fly with low batteries, don't fly with loose connections, OMG, how many can you come up with??

Even IF you had a "Don't Do" manual, sometimes things will STILL go wrong, electronics fail, mechanical parts fail, batteries go dead. In the end, it is up to YOU to make the decision to go FLY.

I do ask this, though, Never, never, NEVER fly alone. If something does go wrong and YOU are incapacitated, WHO is going to call 911?.......

Thanks Chris. Nice to see you jump in and comment. My guess is you don't have many newbies buying your birds anyhow, mostly veterans who are welll aware of the dangers.

Rick

[rdlohr]

I just watched the vid of Greg flying your turbine. SWEEEEET!

Rick

[Hawk_Sport]

sorry guys no injuries here yet... lol i am still a noob at helis actually. i had a electric df 60 ,then traded for a century hawk sport. needed to get a few things for it , and still needing a few more things, i have read the manual on this heli 10x's over and still reading it as to make sure all is set proper.i have only started this up once and that was in my yard. had a rock holding the one skid so it wouldnt move, and she tipped sideways blade striking the dirt. no damage done .... thank god for that.. i must agree that it is the end users problem if they injure themselves or others. but then again people that fly rc planks.(wich i did for awhile) also get injured and they know they are at fault . also alot of people call these rc helis and planes "toys" they are by far a toy. they are presicion pieces of machinery that are very dangerous. i ask this tho ..... would you give a kid a razor blade to play with? hmmm i think not.... well the same goes for this.... but every hobby can be dangerous. we just pic the fun ones and be dangerous:) anyways as this being all siad . i do believe that the manufacturers should put more warnings in manuals and stuff maybe include 1 or 2 pictures of serious injuries. heck maybe even do up a dvd with all sorts of heli accidents, ranging from lil flyers all the way up to the big boys.... and on the front of the dvd put "WATCH THIS BEFORE GOING ANY FURTHER" if they dont watch it and something buggers up they cant go back on the manufacturer.... just a suggestion tho. but that would be a logical thing to do... just my 2 cents... cheers and happy flyin ya'll:cheers

[Polkchop]

Here are some pictures of my helicopter incident.

[cameltoe]

well, I just had the scariest moment today since I started this hobby, ok so the day started bad because I stick my finger in my plank students prop and it had been bleedy non stop for 15mins. then while I gave him the tranny to do some solo circuits I went and worked on my rebuild after crash on my TREx 450 sev2. Now that quest hadnt started well either because the first time I spooled up when it was ready to rumble the damn belt broke lifting into a hover. got it downfine, but now I ask myself what do I do now? i figured I might aswell track the blades(by the way these are brand spanking new Radix blades only just left the packet). So I figure it woulnt do it any harm by holding the heli while looking at the blades, So i do this making several adjustments when I flick it to IDLE1 and give it full neg and then full POS to make sure it stayed tracked while doing this. Now the drama began whe giving the pitch. AS soon as I gave probably about 6degres the whole head of the heli comes off and hits me right in the adams apple before rebounding off and hitting my students truck twice and landing 20feet from where I was standing. I first thing I thought wasOH S#@t I cut my throat. I quickly felt it and it was sore as hell but no cut. I then relaxed and looked for what hit me as I didnt even know what it was until I look down at my headless TREX. I stare in absolute disbeleif and in anger and pain I jsut chuck that thing as far as I can and go sit in the truck for a minute. I had a look in the mirror, It wasnt as bad as I thought it would be. Just a small cut and a big bruise with a lump. now 6 hours since the accident the lump is huge and its difficult to breathe and swallow. Afterwards I found out that the Jesus bolt hold down the head was gone...........
I have decided to leave my 3 helis alone for a week or two. that was just too close.

[Skarn]

Wow man....I'm sorry you've been having bad luck! BUT, without trying to lecture or bust on you.....you really need to re-think your safety habits! You actually HELD the heli in your HAND while spooled up? Geesh man....what if the feathering bolt came loose and the blades came flying out?? That DOES happen! You got very lucky, but again, please treat the heli's with better judgement!

Maybe your luck has changed...go play the lottery ;)

Good luck!
Skarn

[shield]

I've had a few injuries myself but nothing more than minor scrapes and bruises. For me the most dangerous time is then I'm working or tuning my heli when it needs to be powered on and I bump the throttle by accident. Although I'm very careful I have made myself JUMP quite a few times. lol!

With so many YouTube videos of people flying there heli's indoors, in small rooms or in crowded spaces I am shocked that there aren't a lot more injury videos.

Not sure if this video has been posted already but it's quite gruesome.:WOW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdIlUYiVmnc

[must289pwr]

If something can do that to your leg then it just goes to show "ITS NOT A TOY!!!"

And my wife just saw it and got grossed out.. :YeaBaby:

[Hawk_Sport]

yepp saw that one before and there was contraversy over that as it was siad to be a fake ..... i dont care for the vids and stuff but it does show people what happens when noone is educated on these so called toys. ... the more we can educate people about these the better for sure and maybe a lot less pains ....:)

[Greg Faust]

I'm sure that I'm preeching to the choir but this advice has saved me once:

Whenver approaching a heli with a running engine or a connected battery, make sure you have a firm hold of the blade grips. You are stronger than the motor as long as you catch it before it starts spinning.

I autoed my Vigor CS .90 a while back (summer 2006) to tune the needles and then accidentally turned off the throttle hold while the collective was around half stick in idle-1 (using throttle curves). I had a good hold on the blade grip with one hand and it pinched the skin between my tumb and pointer finger (sorry no pictures of the blood blister) when the blade folded due to accelearation but I was able to hold the head and prevent it from turning until I had a chance to pinch the exhaust deflector with my other hand to stop the engine. Damaged the canopy and burned the clutch liner, but no major injury... could have been a lot worse.

What did I learn? 1) Keep a good hold on the blade grip. 2) Use normal mode with throttle and idle as well as throttle hold, that way you would need to have 2 controller accidents before power is applied.

[railroad11]

ro the r/c heli pilots i have read some of the heli posts about helicopter flyinh safety. oh yea you must be carefull when you are flying or fixing your heliwhen i plugged in my heli i had the throttle open on my radio. and the blade turned on the heli and it got me on the hand ouch that hurts there r/c heli pilots.so let's all be carefull.oh i'm new to this forum.

[Rockin Heliboy]

Well, i only got a small knick on my arm but this guy hovering his 600N crashed into a tree right over our heads, luckily the tree save us.
Always be aware of whats going on!

[Nightman]

Question for you Tim... Just how does one teach common sense?? You mentioned previously that we're not being taught common sense (paraphrasing here) and because of that, there has to be a manual or document specific to the dangers of RC helis..

Well I have to agree with Tim here people now a days do not have common sense and common sense is not something you are taught it is something you learn. When you see a blade spinning at 1800 rpm common sense is knowing that if you get hit by it you are going to get hurt badly and if you don’t want to get hurt bad becarefull around it. Common sense is when you get your new bike and try to do stunts with it instead of riding it normal you are going to get hurt. I just saw a good example of no common sense the other day collage students were having a party drinking and they were drinking shots of alcohol and before they would drink them they would light them on fire. Now if you have common sense you would now that alcohol burns and will keep burning till you put it out or it is consumed by the fire. Well this idiot drinks the shot while it is burning in doing so he spills some of the alcohol on him self. The spilt alcohol catches fire and starts fire and starts burning his face. At that point common sense will say just put out the fire on you face as quick as you can. But this person without common sense spits out the alcohol in his mouth and it catches on fire from the fire on his face and he becomes a human blow torch and intern gets burnt real badly. Also if you use common sense you would know if he would inhaled the fire he would have burned his lungs and died. Common sense is not something you are taught or read in a book it is something you learn from what you already know. Instead of just being book smart you also have to be street smart

[PilotSmith]

My bad experiences have come from the radio falling over from being bumped when I've been making some adjustments to the heli. I now make sure to always have the throttle hold switch engaged so if the throttle stick gets bumped the thing won't run away on me.

[Krusty Blade]

Just like this says.. Commen sense is so rare now days its a god damn super power, wait..shhhhhhhhhhhh... i feel a tingle... wait its my commen sense


Even without knowing your location it is so obvious that this statement comes from America.

I find it laughable that people who CHOOSE to buy something that has exposed moving parts then start to gripe and look to blame the manufacturer for their own lack of common sense.

There used to be a great safety advert in the UK many years ago comparing the operation of machines without safety covers to feeding a caged crocodile by putting a piece of meat in the cage by hand.

The problem with common sense is that it isn't common.

[rdlohr]

While I don't disagree about the common sense part, in the heat of the moment mistakes are made. Accidents happen fast and one dumb move leads to the next. Reading these type threads raises your awareness and gives your common sense just a bit more knowledge to draw from. Who reading this has never done something dumb in the heat of the moment? Most times we get lucky. I like to think this thread will save some injuries and just maybe a life.

Rick