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Azzurra
05-30-2007, 03:35 AM
Hi,
has anyone experimented with differen pinions on the stock motor? Mine came with a 14 tooth pinion, and I'm thinking of osing a 15 or 16 tooh for higher headspeed.
But I'm a little concearned about bogging the motor. What Do you think?
Best from Lake Constance
Carsten
broke-again
05-30-2007, 08:19 AM
Tom Viper has a head speed calculator @ http://www.ezfly.se/hscalc.htm
I wouldnt suggest running woodies with anything over 15T though. You should consider investing in some 500 carbons if you want to improve headspeed & overall handling.
dutch_anykey
05-30-2007, 08:39 AM
Hi Broke-again,
Waiting for CF blades here. But with the CF blades mounted on the stock head....what should be a safe max. rpm before having to upgrade to metal blade grips and so on?
Thanks,
Maurice
broke-again
05-30-2007, 11:21 AM
Hi Maurice, For me personally, i always err on the side of caution when it comes to plastic grips. Although the stock grips do seem very strong & this is a pretty light heli, i still wouldnt want to run anything over 2k on them. Again this is only personal preferences as there is nothing stating what their safe max operating speeds are other than what the manufacturer designed them for e.g 16T max pinion on stock motor would give you approx 1800-2k depending on the efficiency of the motor you have.
I dont like running woodies over 1700 on this size of heli either and I put on metal grips when i calculated that my HS would exceed 1800. Didnt want to find out the hard way what their limits are!
I am sure others will have opinions too
AdrianM
05-30-2007, 05:28 PM
I don't think the stock motor has enough power to spin the blades much faster with a bigger pinion. If you gear up it will bog when you do anything.
Azzurra
05-31-2007, 11:31 AM
Hi,
I had changed to 15 teeth, but had no improvement. RPM only was higher at zero pitch, but went down, even when hovering. There was more boggingas expected; and the battreies were drained more quickly.
So I went back to the 14 tooth pinion.
Best Carsten
broke-again
05-31-2007, 01:15 PM
I found that the carbons made a significant difference and running a short V curve in idle up helped with the bogging, but it didnt eliminate it. I also find it bogging slightly with the 550+ and thats a 1470kv so am going to play with the pitch curves.
I also have a Z20 980kv and will also be trying that motor when i get the time to switch over (im moving house this weekend).
AdrianM
06-01-2007, 11:47 PM
RevCo is making a 68T .6M first reduction gear for the Hurcane 550. 68T in .6M is in between the stock 42 and 61T .8M gears that are currently available for the Huricane 550.
By making the gear .6M you will be able to use currently available pinions for the Lepton from RevCo and Hirobo to hit a wide variety of gear ratios.
Spur 68
Pinion Ratio
18 12.13
19 11.49
20 10.92
21 10.40
22 9.92
23 9.49
24 9.10
26 8.40
This should cover most 4S to 6S lipo and motor setups.
Finless
06-02-2007, 12:21 PM
How well will that gear mesh with the next .8 gear in the drive train?
Bob
Skaross
06-02-2007, 01:32 PM
Doesn't need to Bob... the motor pinion drives the gear that Adrian is making (hence you must use the 0.6 mod motor pinions), but its the smaller gear lower on the same shaft (with the one way in it) that meshes with the 61T on the main shaft.
Kev
Finless
06-02-2007, 01:41 PM
Ah OK.... now I get it. I wasnt thinking clearly ;)
Bob