Does Align acknowledge the problems that are being found and

[528hemi]

Does Align Acknowledge the problems that are being found and are they working on the fixes/parts quality issues?

If this was an automobile, they would replace the parts/ fix the probelms for free under warrantee.

I guess I am referring to warped fans, clutch problems and the other issues that are brought up? I dont think it is fair to buy a new kit and right away have to order an aftermarket fan and look for clutch liners and such.

Dont get me wrong...From what I read and seen this heli rocks but should we expect more quality control or is this normal for all manufacturers?

[Wa11banger]

hmm
so far the only failures I have had flying my bone stock 600N are

It has thrown two magnets.. Weak fan but yet it is doing its job keeping the engine cool.. IT is not warped, it is however flimsy enough that I can probably accept it does warp while under acceleration or use. Thus flexing and ejecting my magnets

Soft Dampners.. My dampners have gone soft after a few flights 10-13 I would say.. But they havent gotten worse just not severely tight like I expect from "aftermarket" dampners

I am running stock clutch and liner.. Engages late but has not failed... Is this a failure or just different than what the "norm" is?

Most people that have complained about the stock clutch and liner didnt even run it to find out they just up and replaced it then complained that they "had" to replace it.. I have well over 2 gallons in this airframe and I have beat it pretty bad, all on the stock clutch system.. It engages let yes, it isnt failed so far.. So is this a failure or just a personal preference for some.. Hey the guys who had failures have every right to get on a wagon the guys who changed their setup because they live in fear dont have a dog in this race.

Are they listening? what do you think? look at Aligns track record for fixes, they listen just too bad we are so damn demanding and it doesnt happen overnight :D

As you asked All and I mean every mfg has put a heli out with flaws.. Not one of them had a release that just everything was perfect on for everyone.. It cannot happen, it wont happen. If it ever does then what will we all do with our bling money? It wont be needed so might as well give it to your wife for shoes

Just my .02
Rick

[Mercuriell]

I guess I am referring to warped fans, clutch problems and the other issues that are brought up? I dont think it is fair to buy a new kit and right away have to order an aftermarket fan and look for clutch liners and such.

I think there are only very few 'quality' issues and these relate not to the intrinsic design but maybe an occasional QA lapse in production runs - these aren't new cars they are scale models and if people don't enjoy the occasional engineering challenge then maybe it's the wrong hobby for them !

Just build the heli - enjoy it and sort out any problems if and when they arise :D

[dennis@deetee]

Almost every single plastic fan I have installed in the past, on other brands, has some warping to it. Most have even rubbed on the inside of the shroud, even if they were not warped.

They run in quickly and were not a problem with other brands.

"Maybe" that may have something to do with not recognizing it.

........Dennis

[Russ McC]

Fan magnets, I poked a hole through the bottom of each magnet pocket in the fan I then filled the pocket with CA and pressed the magnets in with pliers witch pushed out the excess CA through the hole I poked, I then wiped the excess off with my finger. Got a case through it so far with no problems, don’t know if its warped, never checked for that.

Dampers, do mot lubricate them, maybe your not but if you are don’t.

Russ

[erniefritz]

what everyone has to remember is that we are on a forum and if you go by what you read , all you are reading is the negatives , cause when someone has a problem they logg on and vent cause they are pissed and instantly , it's an issue... most all the problems posted are not problems at all , just someone griping cause they think that the problem they are having is an issue when it is builder related.... I personally have put together 6 Nitro's since day 1 for my LHS including my own, "NONE" have had any issues.... :wink:

[arclite5]

I dunno what you mean by "weak" fan, that fan blows some serious wind down.

-Kyle

[dennis@deetee]

Exactly Kyle

.........Dennis

[benzmaster]

I sent a email to align but they did not ACK

[dennis@deetee]

What was the question to Align benzmaster?

Also, what does "ACK" mean?

Please elaborate for us.

..........Dennis

[benzmaster]

I sent an email saying that there was a problem with the thrusted tail, and they did not acknowledge,.. no aswer

[dennis@deetee]

What was the problem?

......Dennis

[benzmaster]

suggest you check out:
http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?t=40939
http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?t=41309
http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?t=30207
http://www.helifreak.com/viewtopic.php?t=35157

[dennis@deetee]

Well, that thrusted tail is included on all the glow machines. Same one. Not changed. No problems.

Its always best to take it apart and inspect. Lube with white lithium grease. Face the bearing race to the inside.

Besides, its really not that expensive.

.........Dennis

[creightoncarr]

My 600N thrusted tail has been flawless so far. Not so say that some haven't had problems, but it definitely is not universal. The only other 600N I've seen flying doesn't have any tail problems either.

[528hemi]

Thanks for the input...I now feel more comfortable buying a trex nitro. Yes, After readign all the (issues?) I thought that you needed to fix a bunch of things right off out if the box. I see this is not the case for the most part.

Thanks

[Ticidytoc]

Does Align Acknowledge the problems that are being found and are they working on the fixes/parts quality issues?

If this was an automobile, they would replace the parts/ fix the probelms for free under warrantee.

I guess I am referring to warped fans, clutch problems and the other issues that are brought up? I dont think it is fair to buy a new kit and right away have to order an aftermarket fan and look for clutch liners and such.

Dont get me wrong...From what I read and seen this heli rocks but should we expect more quality control or is this normal for all manufacturers?

Yes, If you have one of the defective clutches, send it back and i gets replaced. If you have a warped fan, send it back and it will get replaced.


I dont think it is fair to buy a new kit and right away have to order an aftermarket fan and look for clutch liners and such.

Want to be the first kind on your block with a 600? Your gonna have to deal with some issues.

[roinides]

Just build the heli - enjoy it and sort out any problems if and when they arise :D

Thats it !

[Kinger]

On the fan, could there be an issue with some type of mold release agent not allowing the epoxy to stick well? Just a thought............

[bmlasater]

fwiw..

I've had nothing but good luck with the 600E...The clutch clearance issue is a matter of personal taste, as I found as I began doing more aerobatic autos with my raptors, a late engage allows a faster hold setting, preventing untimely flameouts if you get in a bad spot...My experiences with the 600E and the photos I've seen of the N leads me to believe the issues with this heli will be few, and Align will sell 'em faster than they can make'em... :mrgreen:

John.

[Wa11banger]

Kinger,
I clean the hell out of the fans and magnets before I ever use them even sanded the magnet and knifed the fan.. It deffinately flexes enough to lose the magnet..

Now on the cool side it has been almost 3 gallons since the last magnet ejection.. I have that thing slathered in glue though.. THere is a larger hole in the center where once I squished the magnet into it I added more glue blob to the back and covered the top with it.. So far so good seems to be holding

bmlasater,
They are indeed this heli has few issues if built right and maintained well
Current issues for me are Fan Magnets, Dampners wore out quickly, autohub stuck twice once required removal and once we just popped her back, and there are only 7 days in a week to fly it.. :lol:

So far for me anyway the flight characteristics outweight the minor issues it has. If I could ask for one more thing that would be a third vent on the tank for those of us running fuel magnets.. I had to add my own vent line because I use a electric pump to fill.

Rick