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cbergen
07-07-2007, 10:11 PM
:shock:

Hyde
07-07-2007, 10:45 PM
:shock: :WOW :shock:

flyingrhino
07-08-2007, 01:19 AM
:wow2:

Greg McNair
07-08-2007, 10:08 AM
Holy cow. Character confirmed. Well, I can say this. As a business owner, if my driver were accused of DUI, he'd be out of a job. No second chances, no pity parties.

As a former law enforcement officer who pulled parts of men, women, and children out of tree limbs, gutters, and bridge abutments due to DUI related wrecks (DUI is no accident), I have as much concern and respect for a DUI driver as I do for a piece of sh*t stuck to the bottom of my shoe. In fact, they rank even with a child predator in my opinion. LE officers don't "mistakenly" charge someone with DUI, at least not if they want career longevity or live a suit-free life. DUI drivers don't have respect for others, so they get zero respect from me.

I just googled the address listed on that county record, and it seems to match the addy for your business John. So there's 3 others with your namesake, and one of them just happens to live with you? I just hope someone else didn't get injured if that photo of your red truck was related to a DUI.

roger_rockstar
07-08-2007, 12:16 PM
With regards to the DUI charge, everyone should understand that fortunately in the US we are innocent until proven guilty. Like Greg mentioned law enforcement officers do not generally "accidentally" cite someone for DUI, so most likely there is evidence of a DUI. How much evidence and/or how accurate it is we do not know. The prosecutor will take the evidence and move it along.

johnemus
07-08-2007, 02:15 PM
You and David H as well as Chris Bergen have personally attacked AirFoil Aviation,Inc. and my John W Ohnemus's credibility. This has most definetly affect the companies business as well as my standing in the community.

John Ohnemus

cbergen
07-08-2007, 02:20 PM
I await contact from your "lawyer"!! This is going to be fun!!

I also have copied ALL statements from you concerning Bergen, so be ready.

Should I go for the Blue one or the White one? Maybe both... :lol:

Maybe you should call the cops on me like you did Terry Moore!

Greg McNair
07-08-2007, 02:48 PM
Roger, there may be a saying in the US court system that states people are innocent until proven guilty. However, with regards to a DUI, the only reason lowlife scum DUI offenders walk from charges is because they:

A. Paid a significant amount of money to a slimeball defense attorney who took advantage of part B:
B. The officer or someone within the department or forensics lab (anyone within the chain of custody of evidence) made a technical error
C. A corrupt officer intentionally made a false arrest out of spite/ignorance/etc, and the offender truly is innocent.

I've never personally known of anyone walking because of part C. So someone may be released of charges, but that doesn't excuse or dismiss the initial actions which brought about the arrest. In my all my DUI arrests, nobody walked. In a few cases, the cockroach didn't survive, so no trial ever took place.

And it doesn't matter who you are. If you're a friend of mine and I find out you're a DUI operator, later days loser. Our relationship is over. I don't intentionally associate with DUI operators. They're scum of the earth in my opinion.

DavidH
07-08-2007, 02:56 PM
So lets see, I posted a link to a Public Record that is on the internet. That is the Adams County, Illinois public records. You might ought to get your lawyer to talk to the people of Adams County about making the records that are open to anyone to look at or link attack.

David

Greg McNair
07-08-2007, 03:35 PM
If posting public record were a crime, or even slanderous, then how many politicians would be guilty in their mudslinging television and print commercials during election season?

roger_rockstar
07-08-2007, 05:45 PM
So long as one states fact and nothing more, public record being fact, it will be very difficult to sue and receive damages for libel or defamation of character.

Posting false information with malicious intent CAN be sued for. Posting factual record and/or personal opinion is not libel.

For instance, you cannot say "John Doe is a drunken fool who kills people when he drives", but you can say, "John Doe has been cited for driving while under the influence and according to public record has a history of speeding". You could even say " I think John Doe is a drunken fool" because that is personal opinion which is protected under the 1st Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

No one here is libeling or defaming you. What IS happening is you come on here and give us really funny lines like it wasn't you, and the police made a mistake, etc. My guess is saying things like that don't help you at all.

I feel John, it is best if you were to just let it go. Go to your court hearing and if in fact this is all a mistake then you can come back and inform us and we can all see it via public record.

No harm, No foul.

terje
07-08-2007, 06:28 PM
Hmm, how exactly is any of this relevant to aerial film and/or photography???
Could the involved parties please keep their f#&%ing personal wars and grugdes somewhere else?
Start your own site for this kind of bullshit if needed, this is not what I log on to an aerial photography thread to read.

MarkWebber
07-08-2007, 06:57 PM
Whether we like it or not, DavidH started this thread and since it says 'site admin' under his name, I'm guessing that sorta gives him license :dontknow

Like all 'forum fun', I'm sure this too will pass :)

johnemus
07-08-2007, 07:57 PM
Thank You Mark Webber I didn't catch that the 'site admin' started this thread.

This makes a lot of sense now.

Thank You
John W Ohnemus

Tonystott
07-08-2007, 08:08 PM
This is like Jerry Springer in real life!

johnemus
07-08-2007, 08:32 PM
This is the same guy that bashed me before by the info just I got sent on Rotory and now he's on rotory about this also.

This helps a bunch.
Thank You

rrr
07-09-2007, 12:50 AM
why is anybody want to bash you john.
is it becuse you are a hornest and tell the truth.
for terje it is relevant when a person among us is lying and stealing.
if you knew about someone like that you would do the same i think.
look at all the forums john (doe) is a part of ewery one of them there is a small war,rr rotory here he is a member of some carforum and the picture looks the same there.

roger_rockstar
07-09-2007, 11:05 AM
Here's a legit question to which I think anyone deserves a legit answer. Especially any of your customers.

You claim to be the only one along with WGEM-TV itself to use the "WGEM" trademark. Let me ask you then, why when I contacted 3 separate people at WGEM I was told you are no longer affiliated with WGEM and have not been for some time?

Why do you say you are still in partership with them? I am sure you are going to come back and say that I am lying. That is fine. I think that is in your nature to do that, but anyone can contact WGEM and see for themselves.

John why do you lie to us about WGEM? And I'd also like to know why the ties between you and WGEM were severed.

I really feel if you just came clean right now for all to see you would get much more respect than by hiding truths.

johnemus
07-09-2007, 11:41 AM
I'm not sure this is any of your business because I sell equipment not myself but I will explain a small amount. We had a contract with WGEM to be exclusive to them which was fine until our EMS director became paid by the state of IL. Now it became a problem because he needed the service but we couldn't work for a station exclusively. He can't be bias in any way.

We had to choose to stay with WGEM 100% which would put emergency services in a corner where they would have to let KHQA and KTVO know what was going on at the same time to be fair.

I decided then we worked with the NWS and the SPC so why not just run AirFoil for everyone and any station can use the footage which let the EMS director the ability to call us without worrying about helping one more than the other.

Everyone now uses our video and still shots and we don't have to answer to a company other than being on call.

You really have no idea what you are talking about but rest assured you jumped in a mess. You are hiding that's fine. We found David Harkey we will find you.

You are sick enough to contact WGEM. Last time a guy did this they called me to find out if he was mentally unstable. Not kindding.

I do want to apologize to the guys really into aerial video and photography that had to read this crap. I have had no dealings with David Harkey site administrator so I'm not sure why you would start a thread like this. We will find out why but I do apologize for the BS you had to read through for nothing.


John Ohnemus

rroback
07-09-2007, 01:16 PM
John, yet again, you fail to shut up. I've been attacked by you for simply offering my opinion on your mount, but let me give you a word of advise: shut up. Let people talk about you all the want, and do business. As an aside, if you were a nice guy, even if someone had found your record ( which, if you were pleasant, no one would look for) then people wouldn't be as picky, they'd let it slide. Too bad you're a real d*ckhead. You've got a lot of people to sue, given they infant do have the write to free speech, and the fact that you've maybe lost the sale, or, maybe 1 mount based on this thread. I hope you lose more then that, especially considering I was on the edge of getting two mounts from you, before I realized I don't want to do business with an individual such as yourself.

Rhett

DUI = murderer on wheels.

DavidH
07-09-2007, 01:49 PM
No one had to find me. I was not lost.

David

cbergen
07-09-2007, 02:07 PM
And so you don't have to call my place to verify any phone numbers, I can be reached at 269-445-2060!!

My address is,

1101 Follett dr
Cassopolis, MI 49031

Wouldn't want anything to get lost in the mail due to an incorrect address....

Neppo1345
07-09-2007, 03:37 PM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c348/neppo1345/Seriousbusiness2.jpg

"Arguing online is like being in the special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded."

oh, and about the pictures...

Posting a picture on the web makes it public domain...sorry.

cbergen
07-09-2007, 04:41 PM
I'm not sure this is any of your business because I sell equipment not myself from above

That was kinda my point. You are looking a $500,000 in cars that I play with and that's not bragging just fun. That Blue GT is one of 99 made. So You could say the news business doesn't pay to bad.
from http://runryder.com/helicopter/t353106p4/

???You work for them or you don't?? Do you sell equipment or your services?:dontknow

Does WGEM know that you still have their logo on your truck? According to their e-mail, they haven't worked with you "in some time".

Maybe they need to know......

Got any e-mails from Vic yet? Why don't you post his response, before I do....

flyingrhino
07-09-2007, 09:05 PM
"Arguing online is like being in the special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded."


:rolling

Yes, but better to be a winning retard than a loser retard!