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Mr-C
08-15-2007, 01:27 PM
A guy at my field showed up with a Kinetic and asked me to help him with it, since I'm about the only heli guy around. That's fine, but I have no experience with this particular heli and its head design, so I'd like to confirm a few things.

There's little mixer arms, at the top between the blade grips, that have a long end and a short end. The ARF came with at least one of them hooked up backwards. Should the long end connect to the swash plate for a less-sensitive beginner setup? At zero collective pitch, should these arms be level? I wanted to make them level at zero, but threaded rod in the double links doesn't seem long enough and so I have them a little bit off.

I've adjusted the bigger, more familiar mixer arms that slide on the main shaft to be level at zero degrees. Correct? (This threw the linkage lengths way off the manual's recommendations but solved negative pitch binding problems and seems like a no-brainer.).

On first spool up, something in the tail failed and we had to call it quits for the day. You can turn the pinion gear up front, but the rear shaft inside the boom doesn't turn. That's all I know because the guy took it home with him and I don't know what happened to it, but at least the heli is in one piece.

Thanks, and I hope I've chosen the right forum for this heli.

Finally, a friendly word of advice: be careful on test flights--it's well worth it!

jackheli
08-15-2007, 04:44 PM
Hi,

on the blade mixer the long ball goes to the seesaw while the short goes to the swash. At zero pitch all arms level. Starting from the washout all the way up to the bell mixers on the grips.
http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/gallery/7483/Zero.jpg

Now the INCORRECT setup:
http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/gallery/7483/Differential.jpg



Check this picture on step 4:
http://www.centuryheli.com/support/manual_gif/HawkFalconSE2/5.gif

Also, make sure the collective arm is properly set:
http://www.centuryheli.com/support/manual_gif/HawkFalconSE2/29.gif

And that the roll servo rods are not lined up at the arm ( teach rod needs to be at 90 degrees with the arms, so the point where the ball link goes is slightly back...):
http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/gallery/7483/Before.jpg

Make sure your buddy disassembles the all tail components and loktites all the set screws. Check the pin and set screw that shows on step 29A & 29B...
http://www.centuryheli.com/support/manual_gif/HawkFalconSE2/20.gif

I hope this helps.

Mr-C
08-16-2007, 08:47 PM
Thanks. I guessed wrong on the bell mixers.