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marcosp
07-26-2012, 02:22 PM
Hmmmm.

I like the power, the winding, the price but not the weight. What do you guys think?

http://www.scorpionsystem.com/catalog/motors/hk45/HK_4535_550MP/

http://www.scorpionsystem.com/news/HK_4535_550_MP/

http://helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=335448&stc=1&d=1343325405

felborn
07-26-2012, 02:44 PM
I waiting for the limited ultimatet masterpiece edit, that one will be awsome i hear!

powercroco
07-26-2012, 03:21 PM
limited ultimatet masterpiece edit
I think, there is a much shorter word for this this. ;)
but these specials - this part you forgot in your description! - are mostly only single pieces.
this will be the maximum possible limitation. :rotf
you can ask slowflyworld for their flat wire - it has a bit more of coppersquare.
and of weight also - unfortunally is copper a heavy element.

about weight:
the difference in motor weight will be smaller than the difference in battery weight.

in fact, if you want to use this motor for speed it's a very good choice with 14S to 16S battery.
also in suzi laos, goblin 700 and tdr it workes really fine also with 12S I heared from some pilots.

if you want to do lightweight 3D there are better solutions thinkable.

and never forget: a lot of mothers have nice daughters. :)

ralph

Vinger
07-26-2012, 03:29 PM
Suddenly my previous limited edition Scorp is not so limited anymore!! These 25 are the master of the previous 60!!!!

KU-HELI7
07-26-2012, 03:32 PM
Nice motor, but I already bought a 4530 for my Banshee. I like the advantage to use the 4530 in combination with a helijive. So I don't need a Kosmik.

Regards, Helmut

powercroco
07-26-2012, 03:38 PM
vinger,

the very first HK 4535 with 4+4x1,8 YY I winded about one year ago - now it is just serial.

think: the better is the natural enemy of the good.
and time is running - everytime when you think, there is no room for improvement anymore will come an improvement soon later. ;)

ralph

jhunter
07-26-2012, 05:14 PM
Anybody want an unused 4535-550? Just kidding. I think the non masterpiece version will suffice. 6500-13000 vs 6700-13400 Continuos and peak watts are not a big enough difference to drop another $500. Not in my case at least.

jhunter
07-26-2012, 06:16 PM
Plus the 4540 should handle any speed duels that I find myself in:rotf

marcosp
07-26-2012, 06:32 PM
Yeah, I got my 4540 Signature for this application, though the 13400W max peak is probably within the Banshee limits and the 4540 who knows what peak might not be.

Ralph, you mean they are using this exact motor on 14S and 16S? With 550kv?

powercroco
07-27-2012, 12:55 AM
banshee used in FAI world record flight no 4535 but a 5035 "evo" with n spec. 550/V and as backup "secret weapon" a 4540 with 4+3 turns and also 550/V on 16S.

there is running a speed tdr with 14S and exact this motor.
also diablo with 14S as far as I know.
and also a goblin, but with only 12S.

ralph

Stolla
07-27-2012, 01:31 AM
Ralph, the 5035 is it rewinded version of the motor in attached pic or different magnets etc.? in other words can I rewind my own motor to same spec as the record holding machine with this motor? Would like to have something a little different than all these guys running the special scorpions, you know that"feeling" of your own handwork!. Btw my dog cage is coming along quite nicely:lol:

powercroco
07-27-2012, 01:43 AM
glad to find you here - so you arn't sent to the dog house. ;)

no, you can't do it.
another shape, another magnets.
the magnetic circle is improved to the level of 45xx or a bit higher.
there are less than 5 prototypes running so far.
and 2 of them with 0,1mm plates (one in georges logo exxtreme, one into my harpyie speeder)

in summ a completely another motor but in the same housing.

jhunter
07-27-2012, 04:56 AM
They should have called it the "MasterCard" edition! :rotf

powercroco
07-27-2012, 06:49 AM
I think, they also will accept visa !

abanihani
07-27-2012, 07:56 PM
I hate you Ralph,you made me press the button and buy one of these only 25 made :arggg:

marcosp
07-28-2012, 12:57 AM
You have no cure Ahmad........ :P

abanihani
07-28-2012, 08:40 AM
You have no cure Ahmad........ :P

I know Marco :face

Mercuriell
08-02-2012, 07:15 PM
can someone convince me it's significantly better than the 4540 LE ? I'd love to buy one but really can't justify it !!

whytlotus
08-02-2012, 10:25 PM
The new vid on the website with Christian Samuelis flying the Ultimate and Kosmik is very impressive.

marcosp
08-02-2012, 11:02 PM
Define better John. It is a bit less extreme for everyday flying. 6700W constant vs 10000W. And 70gr lighter. Still to me it's too big for 3D, maybe for a speed setup that doesn't push everything so much.

helicraze
08-03-2012, 12:47 AM
Yeh that new vid is good! Same motor and esc that im going to use!