Different hover orientation.

[Kinta]

Hi all,

So far, I've been able to pretty much hover tail in and 45 degree each side. (Still unable to hold it dead on in a tiny zone for the whole battery).

When I attempt to learn side in (left/right) as well as nose in on the sim (Real Flight 3.5), I'm finding myself over correcting the bird and unable to tell if the bird is balance. What should I watch for to correct this issue? Currently I'm watching the whole bird in general.

Also it seems that with big model (i.e. Dominion 3D) I have less trouble with over correcting compare to a smaller model (i.e trex450 downloaded).

Any tips on conquering this are greatly appreciated. I understand that I should proceed slow and build up a solid foundation before moving forward :) This would mean that if I need to be able to hold the bird tail in dead on for the whole battery before I can proceed, than that would be what I will have to archive before moving on. :)

Thank you all in advance.
David

[TheBum]

You have to remember that the heli will want to tilt down to the left instead of the right.

The lessons over at Little Rotors (http://www.littlerotors.com/flyinglessons/index.aspx) advocate learning rudimentary figure-8s before learning nose-in hovering.

[Mercuriell]

It's more difficult imo to keep the simulator in balance than the real thing and the smaller models do shoot off side to side more than the larger ones - for keeping in balance watch the rotor disk or maybe the skids depending on perspective rather than the whole heli

[Kinta]

Thank you guys for giving me tips on what to aim for. I'll attempt those again on sim to get myself familar with the orientation

Best regards,

[warrengrob]

Well when you're in nose it, just try put the right stick where the heli's going. So if it drifts right, move the stick right. And if it comes toward you move the stick toward you. That should help a little.

[PJ02]

Well when you're in nose it, just try put the right stick where the heli's going. So if it drifts right, move the stick right. And if it comes toward you move the stick toward you. That should help a little.

Never thought of it that way, i'm miles off Nose in but i'll have to have a go on the sim now.

Rgds

Andy

[ghtracey]

Well when you're in nose it, just try put the right stick where the heli's going. So if it drifts right, move the stick right. And if it comes toward you move the stick toward you. That should help a little.

Awesome piece of advice!

[Kinta]

So after more practices... I was able to hover somewhat side-in. As long as I don't think about it... then it's fine.. But once I start to think about which direction I need to push... I got all mess up.:confused:. Also tried the nose-in with the stick movement recommended. It's nice but once you want to move to a certain direction... it becomes awkward. So I guess... to hover nose in, move the stick the same direction as the heli move. To move the heli while nose-in, move the stick to the opposite direction of where you want the heli move to.

[fogger]

The bottom line answer is surprisingly simple: It takes hours and hours and hours for your brain (subconscious) to "wire" itself to take over so you don't have to spend so much conscious effort making it happen. The former is way faster at making decisions than the latter; this is why it gets easier over time and you over-correct less with more practice time.

There is no fast track, just a stupid amount of time and repetition. Most new people I talk to have little to no concept of how long this takes in reality. I'm sure some learn faster than others too... It might take you 10 hours to get nose in, it might take 50+ hours.

Keep on working on it and it will "click" at some point.

-Chris

[g007monroe]

Well when you're in nose it, just try put the right stick where the heli's going. So if it drifts right, move the stick right. And if it comes toward you move the stick toward you. That should help a little.


That's a good one. I always thought of the right stick as holding up the heli when nose-in - all you have to do is point the stick toward the low side of the heli to push it back up.