Help can't hover I only crash?

[Raptor44]

Now I have a good computer. I try to use the huey the most. But the trims don't seem to work right?

Or is it that hard to make a heli hover? I am ready to throw the simulater(G3) out the window.,

[raptordave]

why dont you practice on the training heli in g3 with the training gear once you get that move up to the next and so on and so forth . the trims should work im not in front of mine now but center all the trims then go into the settins on top and calibrate the controller.

[FyrFtrEmt]

I don't have G3..only G2. But I can tell you the huey is not the best model to attempt (at least in G2).

At first I thought the sim was too difficult and ...like you, wanted to throw it out the door. However, one day everything clicked and I was able to hold the heli in a hover. The next day, a friend said "ok, time to try it on the real thing.."(with training gear).

I was amazed! I was able to hold the heli ( a nexxus ) in a hover for a full tank.

The sim will save you LOTS of money. If you can get the sim down, the real thing will be a piece of cake. My second attempt was without training gear!

Be sure and check out Finless' video on hovering. he uses RealFlight and also shows the stick input in a small window in the corner. Very helpful!

[MarkD]

I couldn't get on/use a Sim until I could hover and move about in RL.
Now I can do more on the Sim than in real life :arggg:

But then I was using CSM V10 simulator

[fogger]

Try the Dominion 90, with the flight mode switch all the way forward (away from you) IE normal mode. It is relatively docile at the lower headspeed. Even after you calibrate the "transmitter" properly you will have to make constant corrections to get the heli to stay in one place, this is how it is. Try out the hover trainer feature and after you get that down, go through the orientation trainer also. (I'm assuming you have or will download the G3.5 upgrade for free...)

Good luck :)

-Fog

[BigBoh]

Make sure you have the controler calibrated. Just a Thought.

[Kinta]

Calibrate the control. Also use the impala trainer ... it's the slowest in term of respond. Also you will need almost constant cyclic movement (tiny adjustment) to keep the heli hover. Another way is to go on knife edge swap page and see if you can get the CX or CX2 (coaxial). it can help a bit to get use to the control.

[windbender]

simulation >> settings >> physics = 50% will slow everything down and give you time to react. After a while increase settings back to 100%.
Wb

[fiveoboy01]

Good suggestions, and the more you practice the better you'll get.

There are also turorials in the sim which you can follow to help you out.

But as was said, even the most stable heli will not stay in one spot without constant correction. You might be able to get away with doing nothing for a second or two at the most but that's about it.

[jsanders79]

Wow, I'm definitely feeling the same pains. Just got RF 3.5 this week and it's awesome! However, I definitely want to throw it through the window. The most difficult part so far has been trying to maintain a dang hover. It's insane. The controls are just so sensitive for my big 'ole claw.

Going to stick with it. I just hope spending hours on the sim will mean I'll get better. Keep up the tips though, I need 'em!

Thanks guys!

Jonathan

[Kinta]

When I first got it.. It took me a week or so to get use to it and started to have some feel of control over the heli (even the big .90 size model). The thing is it will get easier every day and to some point, you will feel bored with the big size because it will just "sit" in one spot or some what stay right there in the middle of your monitor. (granted I can't do anything else yet beside just hovering :bawl).

[fogger]

Man the memories :) When I first started I used the soccer field and could hardly keep the heli from hitting the bleachers or the goal every 20-30 sec lol.

[aucmax]

There really is a Heli God out there. I chose to detonate my controller with maximum frustration! But I guess I'll give it a second chance now that I have read the thread. Calibration better work, or I'm going to hover/crash on over to the aircraft market. And If that doesn't work out, I'll just keep riding my bicycle around on good ol' Mother Earth.

Brett :YeaBaby:

[aucmax]

Update!!! I have spent 2 months tweaking my Trex 600 mechanically and electronically with the TX. I am very happy with all of my settings as I have read every tidbit of the manual, read countless forum threads, etc. But I have not tested it yet in real life. I wanted to learn how to fly with a SIM before the big risk so I bought the G3.5 and added the Trex 600 from Dan's zip. so I could practice through the winter and be ready by spring to hit the ground running. But no dice! I can't even get my heli in the SIM to hover for over a second or two. Seems impossible that anyone can hover, let alone fly a heli with this SIM.(and it is the best on the market today!) I'm so discouraged that I am thinking of selling my heli. But I have almost 3 grand invested so far and cannot bring myself to start crying-just yet. I MUST learn how to fly on the SIM or I'm toast. I read all the disc info, but I am still lost as to why the heli is so unstable upon lift-off. It drifts, then drifts faster, then all is out of control. No correcting, no matter how subtle, seems to help. I wish someone could give me a list of detailed pointers as to how to get a stable hover. I think I might be able to get it all after that with practice. I need some real solutions now. No vague advice. I know there are a lot of great SIM users out there. Please help if you can.

[Spawndn72]

Ok, try this...

Load up the impala trainer, move the left stick to half stick, get the heli about 3 inches off the ground, then forget about the left stick. At first you should be just reacting to what the heli is doing. If it drifts forward pull back on the right stick, but just a little like 1/16 of the total movement. If it goes left, push right, if it goes right, push left, etc..Keep doing this until you can hold the heli in one spot.

If the heli is not reacting at all, something is wrong with your controller or your setup or something.

Hope that helps

[aucmax]

How do I load the I trainer? I bought a big helipod for my real Trex 600 E already. Seems that this is a good place to begin, as I will be using the pod in the spring to practice tail in hover.

[Spawndn72]

Go to aircraft, then to impala trainer. It is a pretty tame little helicopter with training gear on it. It is one of the heli's that come with G3

[aucmax]

I suppose the stick dynamics are the same, but with the trainer added. This may not help much. I think I need to manipulate the physics first. But I will try it.

[Specter]

Ive had about 1 hour of sim flight and then learnt on a co-axial medivac spent maybe $20-$30 on spare blades way better and more informative way of learning for me anyway, and after a week or 2 i was hovering my 450 dragonusII i still use the co-ax for orientation tips, better to ditch the toy than the 450

[Spawndn72]

The physics are fine for learning how to hover. You should not mess with the factory settings. It may not fly exactly like your real life heli, but for hovering it really does not matter. You should not be setting up your real life heli to be twitchy anyway. Set that sucker up for stability and learn how to hover first. Gotta crawl before you can walk.

[aucmax]

I assume that one way to prevent twitchiness would be to flatten the pitch curve around the hover point? (I read this) But if I do that, do I also need to flatten the throttle curve around this point? Seems to me that headspeed may be too high during hover if I flatten the pitch curve as mentioned above without doing some kind of flattening of the T curve also around the hover point?

[trexflyer02]

I assume that one way to prevent twitchiness would be to flatten the pitch curve around the hover point? (I read this) But if I do that, do I also need to flatten the throttle curve around this point? Seems to me that headspeed may be too high during hover if I flatten the pitch curve as mentioned above without doing some kind of flattening of the T curve also around the hover point?

Are you trying to make the heli slower to react (therefore easier to control)? Increase the weight of the paddles.

[aucmax]

And how would one accomplish that? I have plastic stock ones from Align. But I bought a pair of CF ones that seem to be heavier. But I was waiting to crash before I had to replace the original stock paddles with the CF ones?

[trexflyer02]

And how would one accomplish that? I have plastic stock ones from Align. But I bought a pair of CF ones that seem to be heavier. But I was waiting to crash before I had to replace the original stock paddles with the CF ones?

Oh. I thought you meant in RealFlight G3.

Anyways, you could add flybar weights next to the paddles (as far out as you can) to slow down the cyclic.

[great_life2]

The neatest thing about flying a heli is the difficulty part. If it is too easy, I will throw the G3 out the window. Remember, out of all the RC toys, the most difficult to master is the helis and you should take pride once you have learned. Also if you can master a heli, you can fly anything even real airplanes and real helis which are easier to fly. A Marine heli pilot told me this after he crashed my heli and could not hold a hover for hours. Just don't expect to be able to hover and fly around without crashing for weeks or months. I was stunned to pick up any airplanes and be able to fly them, do stuns and land them in about 2 hours, the heli took me 3 month and I am not perfected. So far, I have spend about 100 hours practicing and now I am flying free like a bird, just to give you an idea how challenging and rewarding this can be.

Have a great day flying.