Trex 500 or Logo 500 3D???

[brovic777]

I like both heli's, but not sure which one to get.

Which one would you buy out of these two?

[E - 4]

well your jumping the gun arnt you ?
no one has even seen a trex500 let alone been able to fly it

we all gonna be just guessing
having said all that my vote is for the trex500 :)

[brovic777]

well your jumping the gun arnt you ?
no one has even seen a trex500 let alone been able to fly it

we all gonna be just guessing
having said all that my vote is for the trex500 :)

Well, I'm starting to save money now just in case I get the Trex 500.

[Eyon]

Logo 500 is the ultimate in 30 size helis, they fly awesome there is nothing it cant do.

The rex is un-proven, not avaliable, and nobody even knows what it looks like (apart from the stray CAD drawing)

The L500 is a 500-550mm blade machine, the rex is to be a 425mm blade machine, so a big difference there

[brovic777]

Logo 500 is the ultimate in 30 size helis, they fly awesome there is nothing it cant do.

The rex is un-proven, not avaliable, and nobody even knows what it looks like (apart from the stray CAD drawing)

The L500 is a 500-550mm blade machine, the rex is to be a 425mm blade machine, so a big difference there

Yea, there is a bit of difference in size. I do want something bigger than a 450 size heli, but also something that is not as heavy and big as my Raptor e550.

If I go the Logo route, I'd put 500mm blades on it. If only Align can hurry up and put at least some good pics and flight video for us to see. I hate this waiting game that been going on since summer.

[ClayK]

Logo 500 is the ultimate in 30 size helis, they fly awesome there is nothing it cant do.

The rex is un-proven, not avaliable, and nobody even knows what it looks like (apart from the stray CAD drawing)

The L500 is a 500-550mm blade machine, the rex is to be a 425mm blade machine, so a big difference there
Has Align produced a product yet that "isn't capable"?
You'd be hard pressed to find a model in this hobby that "isn't capable".
The Align 500 is not a 30 size model. Who cares what it looks like? I'm more concerned with availability and cost to performance ratio.

I can understand your loyalty to the Logo brand just by looking at your signature line. However, in the LHS' near me, I have yet to see anything Logo related. Does that mean that it's not a capable helicopter? No, but to say that an Align product is unproven is like saying that a car in design by BMW is going to be junk. Be real, they have proven their place in the market with multiple helicopter designs. If anything, I place equal faith in an Align product as I do a Mikado product.

More or less, I don't diss a product from a company that has already surpassed my expectations (let alone the expectations of others). I'm not saying that the Align product is better or worse than a Mikado, I am giving them equal weight right now though.

Of course, I fail to see why the question is even pertinent at this point since the TRex 500 hasn't arrived to market yet. :dontknow

[bgjames111]

Historically logo part have been VERY expensive in comparison. Align parts are downright cheap. How have logo parts prices been lately?

[Big Fil]

Yea, there is a bit of difference in size. I do want something bigger than a 450 size heli, but also something that is not as heavy and big as my Raptor e550.

If I go the Logo route, I'd put 500mm blades on it. If only Align can hurry up and put at least some good pics and flight video for us to see. I hate this waiting game that been going on since summer.

OK a Logo 500 is just as big as your E550 so if size was a concern you just voted yourself out of a Logo 500 and into a Trex 500. Definately not as heavy though.

If $$ were no concern I don't think you could go with a Logo 500 with a V-bar. Nothing in that Etcha sketch....I mean CAD drawing shows anything that is going to be par for the Align design. Not bagging on the design as it is good, but I don't think it matches what Mikado has in the Logos. If $$ is a concern it's a no brainer. They are not even the same class helis so we are comparing apples to oranges here.

[Automan]

It is littlebit opimistic to have a poll today including the trex 500 :roll:

As said before, not out yet, not the same size, and nobody have tested it besides maybe align.

And you dont want a 30size, then scrap the logo 500 cause it's quite big 30size heli.
Wait until there is official tests that shows what the trex 500 can do, before starting a poll like this. What i understand, it's not right calling it a 500... but nevermind that.

I think it will be a nice heli, but similar in size to their 450... but i don't fly helis that small.

[ClayK]

It is littlebit opimistic to have a poll today including the trex 500 :roll:

As said before, not out yet, not the same size, and nobody have tested it besides maybe align.

And you dont want a 30size, then scrap the logo 500 cause it's quite big 30size heli.
Wait until there is official tests that shows what the trex 500 can do, before starting a poll like this. What i understand, it's not right calling it a 500... but nevermind that.

I think it will be a nice heli, but similar in size to their 450... but i don't fly helis that small.
Why is it not right calling it a 500 (the TRex)?

[Eyon]

Has Align produced a product yet that "isn't capable"?
You'd be hard pressed to find a model in this hobby that "isn't capable".
The Align 500 is not a 30 size model. Who cares what it looks like? I'm more concerned with availability and cost to performance ratio.

I can understand your loyalty to the Logo brand just by looking at your signature line. However, in the LHS' near me, I have yet to see anything Logo related. Does that mean that it's not a capable helicopter? No, but to say that an Align product is unproven is like saying that a car in design by BMW is going to be junk. Be real, they have proven their place in the market with multiple helicopter designs. If anything, I place equal faith in an Align product as I do a Mikado product.

More or less, I don't diss a product from a company that has already surpassed my expectations (let alone the expectations of others). I'm not saying that the Align product is better or worse than a Mikado, I am giving them equal weight right now though.

Of course, I fail to see why the question is even pertinent at this point since the TRex 500 hasn't arrived to market yet. :dontknow

Calm down Clay! I was just making a point that nobody has even seen a Rex 500, far less having a date on the release. I'm not saying it will be bad, on the contrary i think it will be a blinder of a heli, but nobody can say anything for certain.

I think there are too many variations in name with the sizes of electric heli. I personally like the idea of the blade size, like 500, 600, 700, where as motor size just confuses me (450, 500 (in the case of the Rex), when did a 450 or 500 motor even exist?).

Really there are no comparisons between the Rex 500 (going on what little info is on it) and the Logo 500, two totally different machines, one is a Taiwanese carbon/metal heli which runs on 425 blades, where as the other is a german designed/built, Glass re-enforced plastic machine which runs on 500-550 blades. they just arn't comparable to each other.

I personally love my Logo 500, it has the most insane power i have ever flown with (apart from my Logo 14 with V-bar, and soon to be Logo 600 + V-bar), it makes the Rex 600 on the XL motor look slow. Its a real pretty canopy, and awesome made, light, strong, and it also has a really practical frame, but its a new product, thats why you dont see spares at your LHS yet, its more of a specialist heli, and IMO, it gives a more "specialist" style of flight. Give it some time, you have to remember Mikado have gone from a small manufacturer to a world wide pusher of boundries in the RC market.

Anyway, thats only my opinion, and i am donning my :flamesuit and awaiting the flood of people saying i am wrong. but unfortunately few have had the delights of flying such a machine. Oh, and in regard to spare prices? $35 for each side frame, cheap!

[rotary65]

Good points here. A more revealing question might be "Are you waiting for the Align 500 before deciding on a larger E-Heli?" I would say yes to that. Then after the 500 comes out, follow up with a "Which one are you buying" including the latest "500"/500 machines. That would show how much impact the Align 500 is having and whether or not Align hit the mark.

For apples to apples, the choice might be between the Logo 500, Hurricane 550, TT E550, etc. Going smaller, there are plenty of "500" product options (seems to be an exploding market).

Really, the market for the Align 500 is the installed base of Trex owners. The interesting thing is that it may create more interest in even larger E-Helis. It's all timing critical.

Aligns distribution network is impressive and represents a significant advantage if they can capitalize on it with a great product.

Any new battery product announcements could play a role in swaying people one way or another as well.

For me, it's a cost issue, pure and simple. If I can use my existing Trex batteries and chargers, then that will make a big difference.

The Align 500 styling in the CAD drawing leaves a lot to be desired; hopefully it doesn't do the heli justice or the final design won't look like that. Similar products look great. Flight performance is critical, but styling is honestly important too.

So, I'm voting Align 500, but I may end up buying a Logo 500 (or something else). I am absolutely in the market for a larger E-Heli (I have a Raptor 50 nitro, but want electric - my largest electric is my Trex 450SE).

[ClayK]

Calm down Clay! I was just making a point that nobody has even seen a Rex 500, far less having a date on the release. I'm not saying it will be bad, on the contrary i think it will be a blinder of a heli, but nobody can say anything for certain.

I think there are too many variations in name with the sizes of electric heli. I personally like the idea of the blade size, like 500, 600, 700, where as motor size just confuses me (450, 500 (in the case of the Rex), when did a 450 or 500 motor even exist?).

Really there are no comparisons between the Rex 500 (going on what little info is on it) and the Logo 500, two totally different machines, one is a Taiwanese carbon/metal heli which runs on 425 blades, where as the other is a german designed/built, Glass re-enforced plastic machine which runs on 500-550 blades. they just arn't comparable to each other.

I personally love my Logo 500, it has the most insane power i have ever flown with (apart from my Logo 14 with V-bar, and soon to be Logo 600 + V-bar), it makes the Rex 600 on the XL motor look slow. Its a real pretty canopy, and awesome made, light, strong, and it also has a really practical frame, but its a new product, thats why you dont see spares at your LHS yet, its more of a specialist heli, and IMO, it gives a more "specialist" style of flight. Give it some time, you have to remember Mikado have gone from a small manufacturer to a world wide pusher of boundries in the RC market.

Anyway, thats only my opinion, and i am donning my :flamesuit and awaiting the flood of people saying i am wrong. but unfortunately few have had the delights of flying such a machine. Oh, and in regard to spare prices? $35 for each side frame, cheap!
I was agreeing with most of your post, FYI. Don't know why you would think I was up in arms over what you wrote, especially since I agreed with some of it. :dontknow

Most of the questions were aimed at different posters.

[BruceW]

I see this as a valid poll in the sense of trying to figure out what to buy next - not comparing apples to apples. My T450SE is starting to feel small even though its got tons of power but going up to a T600e feels like more than I want. Finding something with a 425mm -> 550mm blades size is what I'm trying to narrow down.

We've been hearing about the Trex500 for a long time but its performance and optimized battery configuration is a TOTAL unknown. Will it be a screaming machine with 3s2p 5000 (2x 3S 2500 in parallel) or 6s1p 2500 (2x 3S 2500 in series) using something like the EVOLites so we can reuse our 450 batteries? We all have no ideal and its only guessing at this stage based on comparisons to the Lepton and other similar helis. I'm sure the quality and parts price will be good and that won't be a question.

The Mikado products (600 & 500 3D) blew me away with the performance and power after seeing the videos from IRCHA. The Logo 5003D is starting to look like the helicopter I want next and the 500mm -> 550mm blades seems about right.

In terms of parts for the T450, T600e, Logo500 it doesn't matter if my LHS will carry them or not. For 90% of us, the LHSs don't carry the blinged out parts (crash and upgrade) we want and an online order must be placed to get them.

So do I wait for a Trex500 or look at going up a notch (in size) for a Logo 5003D? Tough choices and I'm pricing out my configuration now.

For now, I'm leaning more towards a Logo 5003D on 6S with a Neu 1512/2Y (1400KV).

[brovic777]

Thanks for the very informative comments guys. I'll probably end up getting both in the long run.

[bugdozer]

I don't have money for either but if the T-REX500 will run on two T-REX450 batteries, the TREX500 may be a bigger heli option for me. If I have to invest in new $250/$300 batteries, I'm out. Poop!

Edit to add poop... He he

[Razor_Racer]

3s 5000mah would be awesome, you could use that in the heli, and also for us car guys, too.

[Rigalo]

Well, my money goes to Logo. Nope, I'm not biased, for I've got 2 t-rex's. But, for months I've been waiting for the so called t-rex 500. So, I bought a second hand L14, and I've never been looking back. So, I would rather buy the 5003d, for it provides a good upgrade route to the 600. I take the t-rex 500 won't be upgradeable to a t-rex 600 (...not so wild assumption). Also, the Logo 500 has ample place for many pack configurations, so it is a winner in that respect. I would make another assumption and say the t-rex 500 would not have nearly the battery capacity the logo 500 have, but I might be very well wrong.

But, if the t-rex 500 has 425 size blades, it puts it in a total different category. More like the small t-rex, as opposed to a 500 to 550 size heli. Lower cost, but not that much bigger. I would not mind to fly one, for everybody says the Lepton size heli's are so good to fly. Yes, it would be great fun, and that is what we are all trying to have here.

Any way, I'll put my money on the 5003D for now.

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

I think Align makes a nice product but..... honestly the Mikado stuff is in a class all to itself. With it's light weight exotic parts, V-bar system and German enginering behind it, there really isn't anything like it. It's without question the BMW of the helicopter world.

About the Align 500. I think it should be called a 425... I mean lets be honest that's what it is. When they release it (someday) I will most likely get one just to have a nice mid size heli to play with. Before I buy anything, I want to see it fly and how it's built. I doubt it will be on par with Mikado, but I'm sure from Aligns past it will be nice and affordable for most anyone and a pleasure to fly.

Just my .02

[ClayK]

I think Align makes a nice product but..... honestly the Mikado stuff is in a class all to itself. With it's light weight exotic parts, V-bar system and German enginering behind it, there really isn't anything like it. It's without question the BMW of the helicopter world.

About the Align 500. I think it should be called a 425... I mean lets be honest that's what it is. When they release it (someday) I will most likely get one just to have a nice mid size heli to play with. Before I buy anything, I want to see it fly and how it's built. I doubt it will be on par with Mikado, but I'm sure from Aligns past it will be nice and affordable for most anyone and a pleasure to fly.

Just my .02
Why should it be called a 425?

[brovic777]

Why should it be called a 425?

The Mini-Titan got it right being called the e325 based on its blades size. Trex 600 has it right based on its 600mm blade size.

But for some reason, Align got it all messed up when they started thier Trex size heli's calling them 450's.

The Align 500 should have 500mm blades, or they should call it something else.

BTW, Jeremy, how you liking your new Logo 600 3D kit?

[vetterick]

I'm waiting for the Trex 500, I thought about the Logo, but not having parts redily available kinda scares me, I already have a compy 300 that takes exotic parts I don't fly anymore.

[OICU812]

In the end just buy what you want and what appeals to you. Both will be very capable. At this point as it has been mentioned it is hard to base anything on a mchine with little to no information. Another key point of course will be how available the kit or parts are to you in your part of the world. Where I live parts for Align and Mikado are actaully equally available. And of course beyond that everyone has different tastes and a decision making process that differs as well, no big deal at all. In the end we all agree it is a hobby and hobbies are fun no matter how good of a pilot you are, or what you fly. :)

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

Why should it be called a 425?

It has 425mm blades. Everything else that I know of on the market swings 500 or 550 blades is called a 500. It just seams more fitting to call it a 425.

It reminds me of buying lumber at the yard.... a 2x4 isn't a 2x4, it's a little smaller by I think a quarter inch. Sales and marketing.:roll:

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

BTW, Jeremy, how you liking your new Logo 600 3D kit?

It's nice......:)