which actro logo 600 3d?

[Jason Chow]

i wanted to know what motor danny j and others were using on their logo 600 3d.

actro 24-4 but what mm shaft. also, is there any special way to mount this motor onto the logo 600 3d or is it a straight mount. what esc works best with this while im at it, i read cc110hv somewhere and then cc85hv, big difference, big price and i wanted to know for sure.

also, im located in california (us) is fxaeromodel the only place i can get these motors. i would like to hold one in my hand if possible :)

thanks for the info, im so anxious to get a logo now :cool:

[Klinger]

Not exactly sure but thought danny was using the 32-3. 24-4 has standard 5mm shaft and bolts straight on, you can use the addittional motor shaft support bearing kit but you'd have to be pushing it bloody hard to require it i think.
Some peeps like the CC's some dont, i love the jazz 55-10-32 which easily handles the power of the 24's.

[Jason Chow]

great thanks for the info. im not sure about what motor he was using, i want to know currently what hes using in the logo 600 3d he has and is flying. i remember reading somewhere he was using the 24-4 on his l14 but didn't know if it was the same for the logo 600.

anyone with the info please chime in and also, if you know a good place for price on the motor, that would be very helpful. (btw, im located in california (US)). thanks

jason

[OICU812]

Danny was and is using a 32-3 Actro, 5mm shaft and 19 tooth, however had stated to go down to a 18tooth pinion. This will still provide plenty of jam and not as abusive on packs. The 24-4 would also work as well since it is same kv range therefore would use same pinion, the 32-3 would supply slightly more grunt due to larger winds and magnets.


Where to buy,,,

Espirit, TP Packs, Revolution Models UK, and there are likely a few more vendors that have them as well. :wink:

[Jason Chow]

thanks for the information. my next question would be the pinion, where does one get the pinion that works with the helicopter. as i understand, the new logo has a different gear, thus a different pinion is required.

btw, i see fxaeromodel has them, but i do wonder if they offer the best prices, im a price shopper :)

[Jason Chow]

i have one other question related to motor choice, what would be the esc choice for the actro 24-4 and the actro 32-3

thanks

[Jason Chow]

sorry for the huge list of questions but what would be the actro 32-3 equivalent on the logo 600 for the logo 5003d ?

[OICU812]

ugh.....

Ok for Logo 5003D ......

"MY" opinion is.

In order of pure power:

ZPower Z50A-1150kv
Hacker A40-8L 1300kv
ZPower Z30A-1110kv
NEU 1910(H)-1Y- 1050kv
Tango 45-10 - 1050kv
Hacker A40-10L 1100kv


In order of efficiency:

NEU 1910(H)-1Y
Tango 45-10
Hacker 10L
ZPower 1110
ZPower 1150
Hacker 8L

Now esc for Actros in a 6003D, I woud chose Kontronik Jazz 55-10-32 or Powerjazz and if you are partial to CC escs than use 85 or 110HV.

Pinions can be bought at pretty much all vendors that carry Mikado, do a search on google there are several....... there are also several threads here that list all the vendors.....

[Eyon]

just a quick note to as that Dan has gone back down to the Actro 24-4, but uses a power jazz as the 55A just cant handle it unless highly modified. Its got loads of grunt, there really isnt any need for the 32-3, that was just done as an experiment.

Ian

[OICU812]

Ian, I am curious. I used the 55-10-32 on my Logo 14s with no issues, I never thermaled them once to be honest. I was planning on using the 55-10-32 on my Logo 6003Ds. Now given I live in a "cooler" climate to. Is or has your concern been in regards to your comment the ambient temp that makes it not a good choice in your opinion, or the more weight of the 600 over the 14 pushing the esc more?? I can't see why the 55 would not be sufficient for many..... unless of course you are in real hot climate...:dontknow

[Eyon]

dont know to be honest shawn. I speak often with Danny J, and im just repeating what he said. but then again, who flies as hard as him :noteworthy

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

I have been doing a lot of soul searching concerning what motor to run on my 6003D 10s setup.

Here are a few thoughts

1915H/1Y...... Tons of power, effecient but hard on 10s packs, inrunner, not cheap $280, High amp draw during hard 3D, Local support, Heavy as hell 464 grams.:shock:

Kontroniks 45-7....... effecient, light weight 300g, fair power, cool running, inrunner, Not to bad at $269

Actro 24-4...... tons of power, Virtical play in shaft, no support, 350 grams, outrunner, Exspensive $300

Plettenberg Orbit 30-12..... good power, outrunner, effecient, cool running, light weight 300 grams, fairly cheap at $208


I'm leaning toward the Plettenberg Orbit. What do you guys think?

[Eyon]

Jeremy, if you are wanting a plettenberg, wait for the new heli extreme emotors to come out, much more efficient than standards for helis. i run the 30-12 and its a good motor, so the heli should be amazing

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

When is it coming? Got a link talking about it?

[NTM]

The neu 1915 1y finished off two of my weaker 22c 10s 3700mah flightpower packs yesterday. They were slowly getting worse and worse about holding voltage. They never did actually run hot, temp must not be a real good way to guage a packs ability to cope with amp draw ?
Go with bigger than 22c 3700mah packs for the 1915 1y for sure !

After finally getting the v-bar 600 flying I can honestly say a 1912 1y on 10s 3700mah would be more than enough on 600mm blades. My dying packs wouldn't knock out more than 2400 watts and the thing felt and appeared more powerful than my logo 14 at 3300 watts. I'd chalk it up to the v-bar and the full size servos, it was very "poppy".
It's also eery how quite it is, even at a hover all you hear is the hum of v-blades biting the air.
This heli rocks !

[Jason Chow]

lithiumstatic, can u please explain more about the plan on the actro 24-4 motor. wouldn't that affect the new gears if it moves up and down. if it was a straight cut, then i wouldn't worry as much.

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

Yes it would be very bad if the pinion moves up and down. I heard it can be fixed but why go through the hassle. I've never owned one of these motors but am leary of trying one. I was all gung ho after one until I read about them.