Helicommand or AP2000i

[Ruud Westerhout]

I thought to have had the same. All seem to work, only AT did not work.
After ages I finally took the time (and the HELP) to get AT to run, then Pos.Mode did not work anymore. When I got that to work I found out that I had run all the time with my cables mixed up (for the two front servos). Yes, nobody guilty but me, but it took a long time to find somebody able to help me with this.

Certainly some devices are made much more easy to understand than this one.

Regards,
Ruud

[trireme]

Thanks for all the feedback.

If I buy the 3d HC, can it be upgraded with the pc cable to do the RIGID software for flybarless?? Dont plan to deal with that now, but would like to someday.

[j_kookboy]

Thanks for all the feedback.

If I buy the 3d HC, can it be upgraded with the pc cable to do the RIGID software for flybarless?? Dont plan to deal with that now, but would like to someday.

No.

I would strongly recommend to buy the RIGID.

I made the mistake of buying a 3A and now had to send it back to germany and have them upgrade it to a RIGID (144 euros + shipping).

You end up paying more money buying the 3A and then upgrading it to a RIGID.

The reason behind the higher cost is that the manufacturer already produces the units and sells them as 3A/3D/RIGID. Only difference between them is the firmware. For them to receive a 3A/3D and upgrade to new firmware, they have to disassemble it, it takes time. They charge for that time.

This hobby is advancing fast and there's more and more manufacturer's coming out with flybarless systems. It seems obvious as there is less mass rotating = more efficient, less parts, less cost.

If you are looking to get a HC in the long run, I recommend to get the RIGID.

My 2 cents.

Jesse

[dreslism]

Thanks for all the feedback.

If I buy the 3d HC, can it be upgraded with the pc cable to do the RIGID software for flybarless?? Dont plan to deal with that now, but would like to someday.


As Jesse said the answer is no.

I see this is one of the downsides of the HC vs the ap2000.
The ap2000 is field upgradeable.

The HC is not, you have to send it back to Germany.

[Ruud Westerhout]

Yes, Jesse is completely right.

I made that same mistake, bought a 3A. I am still not planning to go to 3D or Rigid, but all the arguments fit. I do not know if they really have to disassemble to upgrade the firmware, would be a little "bad thinking" I would say if it is, but they might just say that to justify the money. I used to work for a company who "did this" (take bigger amounts of money then the work actually cost, but justify by telling the client about the huge amount of work).

Regards,
Ruud

[trireme]

No.

I would strongly recommend to buy the RIGID.

I made the mistake of buying a 3A and now had to send it back to germany and have them upgrade it to a RIGID (144 euros + shipping).

You end up paying more money buying the 3A and then upgrading it to a RIGID.

The reason behind the higher cost is that the manufacturer already produces the units and sells them as 3A/3D/RIGID. Only difference between them is the firmware. For them to receive a 3A/3D and upgrade to new firmware, they have to disassemble it, it takes time. They charge for that time.

This hobby is advancing fast and there's more and more manufacturer's coming out with flybarless systems. It seems obvious as there is less mass rotating = more efficient, less parts, less cost.

If you are looking to get a HC in the long run, I recommend to get the RIGID.

My 2 cents.

Jesse

So, are you saying if I get the RIGID version, I can used it just like the 3A, 3D or RIGID settings?

[j_kookboy]

Yes.

3A - stab
3D = 3A + inverted stab
RIGID = 3A + 3D + flybarless stab

[bullaculla]

what ever happened to the "profil" version?

From esprit model.com
"Precision flying for aerial photography, film, surveying, surveillance etc. Ideal support for long-range flying. Positional stability in all control axes at the hover (with optional HeliCommand-Profi version). Fail-safe with fully automatic landing."
http://www.espritmodel.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=5847

[jimheliboy]

The profi is available, PRICEY $4,000 for the high dollar helis....check out ercmarket
http://www.ercmarket.com/

[jimheliboy]

Sorry the price is USD $5,000.....