View Full Version : 3 Batterys Tested and Evaluated
03-21-2008, 01:51 PM
Weird, I thought they were the same as the Air Thunders, and I thought I read on the air Thunder website that they are the Align style balance connectors. I'd better check this, as I was considering ordering a couple of Air Thunder batteries.
My Air Thunder packs came with Align style connectors. My Kong Power's from readyheli came with TP connectors, as stated in their description:
I think the early production KP's came with Align connectors, but don't quote me on that as I never had one of the first ones.
03-21-2008, 02:37 PM
Kong Power recently switched from the align style to the TP style ballance plugs so any NEW kong Powers you buy will have the TP style.
03-28-2008, 06:16 PM
Whats the lastest on the Battery comparisons - Bob? Any joy?
03-28-2008, 08:59 PM
Been busier then heck BUT this Sunday will be the next test.
04-01-2008, 07:39 AM
I have just bought a 430XL, and offcourse my lipos was not good enough, they last for 3-5min of hoover before it is no more juice left. When I put them in the charger it shown about 10v. I need to get new ones. I have a charger that has XH balance plugs and I am a bit confused about the TP/Align and the different styles. I want to buy Flight power or Thunder power lipos, but I do not want to buy a new charger. Can somebody help me on this, what is what, and if adapters excist from XH to what ever is needed?
04-01-2008, 08:40 AM
XH is the same as Align. If you went with the TP you would need an adaptor.
04-01-2008, 10:13 AM
Thanks!, does it mean that http://www.align.com.tw/shop/product_info.php?cPath=22_34&products_id=1811 is the correct thing to buy? Align Balancer/TP Adapter K10384A?
04-04-2008, 06:27 PM
Any luck Bob? I need some new batteries asap.
04-04-2008, 06:44 PM
Hopefully this weekend... Just too darn busy and when the weekend comes all I want to do is fly.
With 90 flights on all 3 packs all 3 are still going good so if you need a pack now I would say get any of them! They all seem to work well so far.
04-04-2008, 07:42 PM
...when the weekend comes all I want to do is fly....Bob
You know those battery tests require you to fly right? Well...sort of. Maybe you need to find a way to make it more challenging. Oooo..I know...instead of doing the test at hover. How about full stick for the full flight. That outta challenge anybody!
04-04-2008, 07:52 PM
It would probably challenge the battery's crash-worthiness. Bob might stumble across the first anti-taco pack available.
04-04-2008, 08:01 PM
Fireup would love a anti-taco pack! :nanabobo
04-07-2008, 09:11 PM
Which Sunday was that exactly?:dontknow
04-07-2008, 10:03 PM
OK guys... I gotta admit.... I am not too good on this LONG TERM testing stuff... When the weekend comes all I want to do is FLY man...
Ready for this???? This is what I flew Sunday
4 - Logo 500 flights
8 - Trex500
6 - Trex450
Oh by the way I used all of the TEST packs on those SIX 450 flights last Sunday. ALL of the 3 test packs were great and my log says 107 flights on each.
I promise I will do the Eagle tree recordings again I really do but right now it appears that no matter WHICH pack you buy you wont go wrong.....
Guys... Sorry if I have not given this test do diligence.... It's called balancing TIME with flying and loving this as a hobby NOT a job... I will say this though... I will probably NEVER sign up for this kind of test again! I just don't have the deligence to go through it! Remember I am like you all... This is a hobby for me... Flying and having FUN come first! :)
04-07-2008, 10:49 PM
You're a better man than I. I don't think I could force myself to hover 3 batteries in a row.
Hey...for the most part, we're a pretty patient bunch of folk.
04-08-2008, 05:25 AM
TP's on the way:thumbup::noteworthy
04-10-2008, 02:41 PM
I didn't read the entire thread but I have 3 FP EVO25 packs myself (2170ma) and I have noticed a higher voltage on all of them. Funny to see it in a graph like that. This explains why the align esc battery protection option doesn't work well on my packs (not even the low cutoff (starting at 3.2V per cell). It seems to kick in way too late (because of the higher voltage probably). I tried another ESC, same thing. I've been using the timer on my dx7 for a while now, and I seem to have become a biological 5,5 minute timer myself! So this higher voltage does have a disadvantage, unless you use your timer. Maybe interesting also measuring the bec voltage on these packs, specially for people running the S9257 on (hopefully not even more than) "6V"...
Just a little something maybe worth mentioning, I have abused all of my packs quite often, discharging them over 2100ma in the beginning), and all of them are still just fine, like new! I love them! They seem to have dropped significantly in price lately (in Europe that is), perhaps because of the strong euro... From 75 euro's to about 55 euro's. I don't have any experience with any other lipo's but I have heard a lot of good stuff about thunderpower also.
Keep up the good work Bob! :noteworthy
04-10-2008, 09:51 PM
Totally understandable Bob. I just want to see if the FP's are still holding the higher voltage...
Hello Bob,,, how about that test?:dontknow
04-22-2008, 02:22 PM
This is gonna turn into one of those Heli Freak neckstrap requrest threads.
04-22-2008, 02:37 PM
Well for sure the test is not going to be valid anymore.
As part of the BeamE4 test flight I used the Kong pack on it and had the timer set for 5 minutes which is what I usually get out of all my 450's. Well that Scorpion -6 sucked the pack dry and I went into LV cutout on the first flight. I mentioned that in my test flight video. I realized I needed to drop the timer with that motor to 4 minutes. I flew the pack again this last weekend and it no longer felt as strong :(
It didn't puff but for sure I hurt it.
Needless to say guys with 113 flights on each pack in the test they all are about the same! At least they were until I hurt the Kong. So again... You can't go wrong with any of these packs and thats the bottom line.
Myself I prefer the FP or TP over the Kong and the only reason is size and weight not performance.
04-22-2008, 04:24 PM
Have you noticed a difference in wires in the batteries you tested? Both wires to the main and the balancing terminals? I had some batteries a while back where the balancing terminal wire went bad after so many charges. Do all these batteries use the same wire types and quality? In most cases do you think the wires will outlast the lipos or have you had to throw batteries out due to shorts etc. Any handling comments about bending wires around within the canopy or while charging etc?
Thanks for doing this test even though you only got through 100+ charges, it has definitely been helpful to me.
04-22-2008, 04:30 PM
No I haven't had an issues with the wires on any packs except many moons ago with the APEX brand. I am am pretty ruff with my packs too!
In crashes I have cut open the insulation on the main power wire now and then and I just seal it up with liquid electrical tape or remove the Deans and put on heat shrink over the damaged area.
04-30-2008, 01:46 AM
well I purchased 3 packs from http://rclipos.com/ and even though they are a similar size (2200mah) to my existing hyperion red packs (2100mah) the physical size difference is quite a bit with the TP packs larger, why is this? due to anti puff? or stronger cell makeup?