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derekschultz
11-01-2007, 07:09 PM
I got the updated aluminum tail parts kit today and installed the new slider and grips. I'm now debating whether to install the push rod as well (metal rod). I was using the CF rod before. Is the metal one a better way to go or is it not worth it?

http://www.readyheli.com/HS1201_72_Tail_Rotor_Parts_p/hs1201-72.htm

Oldboy
11-01-2007, 07:13 PM
I got the updated aluminum tail parts kit today and installed the new slider and grips. I'm now debating whether to install the push rod as well (metal rod). I was using the CF rod before. Is the metal one a better way to go or is it not worth it?

http://www.readyheli.com/HS1201_72_Tail_Rotor_Parts_p/hs1201-72.htm

I could be wrong, but I was always under the impression the cf one was better, my v2 came with the metal one which seems too flexable. Which is more flexable to you?

Helifarns
11-01-2007, 07:47 PM
An 1/8" CF rod mod is way stiffer!! :thumbup:

derekschultz
11-01-2007, 08:03 PM
i figured that the CF route was better. i have the stock CF rod but was thinking of getting a piece of 3mm or 3/16 CF tube. The stock one flexes a bit too.

Helifarns
11-01-2007, 08:06 PM
Here's mine:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Helicopter%20stuff/IMG_9532.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Helicopter%20stuff/IMG_9533.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v65/Farnsrocket/Helicopter%20stuff/IMG_9534.jpg

derekschultz
11-01-2007, 08:07 PM
Is that a hollow tube and what size is it. Looks really good.

Helifarns
11-01-2007, 08:18 PM
Thanks! Pretty sure it's 1/8" and yes it's hollow.
I bought the Align carbon tail rod kit...HS1017 epoxied them into the cf rod.

http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product_...oducts_id=4227 (http://www.ehirobo.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=144_159&products_id=4227)

Funky
11-01-2007, 09:40 PM
Mine is just like Helifarns :thumbup:

A nice carbon tube with no supports to cause drag.

Helifarns
11-01-2007, 10:36 PM
What's up Funky! :Bang

silas3d
11-01-2007, 10:49 PM
I used a 3mm carbon tube and simply slid the stock V2 metal slider into the tube and epoxied it into place.

Works great and if the epoxy ever fails at least you have the full metal slider constrained within the tube!

derekschultz
11-02-2007, 12:24 AM
cool, thanks for the input guys!

Greybird
11-02-2007, 06:18 AM
Instead of epoxy, use J-B Weld. I have had epoxy fail. With J-B Weld, everything around it will fail first.

Tailrotor Joe
11-02-2007, 02:50 PM
I bought a set of Align linkage rods....threads at both ends.....

The threads will capture the epoxy that bonds to the inner surface of the carbon tube so that a failure is not likely to happen.

DominicD
11-02-2007, 05:16 PM
I use the microheli upgrade one.

dogfart
11-02-2007, 05:22 PM
It's interesting you are not using the tailboom guides. Maybe I'll take off mine too. They never seen to line up the push rod right anyway.

Sonny
11-02-2007, 08:26 PM
I saw a video of a rear mounted camcorder on a 600 with no supports on the tail rod. Alot of flexing deffinately need the guides there. The 450 being alot shorter. The guides are not needed. Just make shure your ball links don't have any slop.

Helifarns
11-02-2007, 08:50 PM
It's interesting you are not using the tailboom guides. Maybe I'll take off mine too. They never seen to line up the push rod right anyway.

The 450 being alot shorter. The guides are not needed.

I don't know about that......that stock, skinny metal rod is not that stiff. :thumbdown:
Dogfart, were you referring to my heli? If so, I had to remove the guides cause the CF rod wouldn't fit, plus it is so stiff that it doesn't need them. I think you would have some problems if ya didn't use them with your stock, metal rod. :YeaBaby:

Windbreaker
11-02-2007, 10:10 PM
I used five-minute epoxy to build this.

I cut off about an inch off each end of the stock steel pushrod and roughened the surface. Then epoxied it into the ends of a hollow carbon fiber tube.

The CF tube is far stiffer than the steel rod and doesn't need any support.

Also, when I crashed the CF tube split apart while the epoxy still held onto the short piece of steel pushrod.

Dean.

Sonny
11-03-2007, 05:26 PM
I don't know about that......that stock, skinny metal rod is not that stiff. :thumbdown:
Dogfart, were you referring to my heli? If so, I had to remove the guides cause the CF rod wouldn't fit, plus it is so stiff that it doesn't need them. I think you would have some problems if ya didn't use them with your stock, metal rod. :YeaBaby:

I was refering to the carbon fiber rod linkage.

dogfart
11-05-2007, 03:13 PM
Helifarns, I was referring to your heli.

I removed my guides, inserted the metal slider into a .098 inch hollow CF Rod, letting the threads extend just beyond both ends. Then I screwed plastic ball link receivers onto both ends, tightening them securely against the rod. It seems to work great.