Are you going to buy a Trex 500 ?

[Hulley]

Oh believe me I can only afford the airframe now. I'm ebaying stuff now so I can get the rest of the what I need. I'll be flying my 450 for awhile and when I crash the Logo its gonna hurt! Sometimes (alot actually) I think I should buy a less costly heli or another 450 but you guys know how it is, you see a heli and it just does something to you ;) I guess thats why we call this an addiction! We can justify it anyway why want, when it comes down to it, you just gotta get what makes you happy!:thumbup:

[rotary65]

Actually, today I got a lesson in heli economics (indirectly). I downloaded the new Cyrsis demo for my WIndows XP PC and found out that my system doesn't meet minimum requirements - I would need to drop another $1500 on a new system to play it right. My current computer system is "only" two years old.:computertrash I guess I won't be playing Crysis; but oddly enough, there is a Trex 500 in my future.

I can't justify upgrading my PC every two years, but upgrading my heli every year is just fine!:lol:

[Hulley]

Crazy stuff I know! :rolling

[OICU812]

There are allot of peeps with 3S packs yes, I do think people will find themselves not flying their 450s so much then all of a sudden they will want to but will not be able to share packs out of greed wanting to fly one more than the other. If ya know what I mean? 3S packs existing get you in the door to try it out for sure, the long run ticket is going to be buying some single stick solutions imho.

[702nitro]

I think that alot of people are also forgetting about the charger! If your running 2 3s1p packs to make 6s it wouldn't make alot of sense to charge 1 pack, wait, then charge the other. It kinda defeats the whole purpose of practicality, when comparing it to a Trex450. Factor in a 6s lipo charger, you're looking at an additional $175+ since the majority of people will be upgrading from a Trex450, hence they might not have a charger capable of a 6s cell configuration.

So heres a Pricing $$$ List
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Trex 500 (ESC, Motor) = approx $450
Performing Gyro = about $175+
Performing digital CCPM Servos = $75 X3 => $225
Digital Rudder Servo = approx $85+
2 x 3s1p Lipo(Kong Power 3s 2200mah) = $120
Charger 6s capable = $175+
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Tentative Grand Total: $1230

Of course, who wants just one 6s pack. Personally I would like at least 3. Who wants to fly for 5 minutes then wait for an hour. So lets make 2 more 6s packs. Thats $120 x 2 = $240

Sub Total: $1230 + $240 = $1470.


Then you've got to think about this isn't a helicopter like the 450. You'll definitely need more flying space to open the throttle up more, unless of course you're just hovering.

Heres why I'm still undecided on the Trex500.

Trex600 Nitro = Flying Field
Trex450 = In front of home, park during lunch breaks, of course Flying Field
Trex500 = Definitely can't fly this at home, hmmm! The softball park maybe to small for a 500 and may have KIDS and DOGS around, then of course I can fly all day the field.

[Razor_Racer]

So many numbers :shock:

[buzzsaw 46]

I voted undecided because there are others soon to be released. If the price is to good to pass up then yes I'll have to have one but my plan is to try and hold back and wait for a few of the others to get out.

How long did these get tested for? Seems like as soon as we heard testing was happening they were going to production. Are we going to see a well thought out machine or a rush job to beat others to the market? Will we be nickle and dimed to death with endless upgrades to solve existing issues that weren't indentified durring testing?

Too many questions to commit unless like I said the price is outstanding. What price would that be? I really dont know! Lets make them work for the sale;)

[VietVet]

Yes

I saw Andy test flight the 500 at Arbor park before his going to meet with Alan and Jason in Vegas

It is Just the right size.

Fly's great

Cheers VietVet :) - :)

[Finsta]

i would like to know "why not" from the pepole voting no, just curious....:confused:

No for me because the more I think about it, it does not make sense. I waited for the 500 and then just decided to go with the 600. I am still buying stuff. The same stuff I would need for the 500. 6s charger...etc. I don't see THAT much of savings over the 600 and the size of the 600 is awesome. You can get VG 6s lipos for 250.00 (AT) or pay close to 150.00 for 2 3s. Then, to do it properly (from my understanding), you need to run 2 balancers for proper charge/balance of 2 packs. That is another expense. I don't see the big savings. With my 450, I can fly anywhere and with the 600, I can fly at the field. Seems like one of the other guys said, you would want just one 6s pack which will probably be close to 200.00 each. Can anyone convince me to have all 3? :) I'm open :)

[rcboosted]

I can.

450 lipo 3S1P, let's say it's $50 for ease of comparison
500 lipo, 6S1p, 2 of the 450 lipos. $100
600 lipo, 6S2P, that's 4 450 lipos. $200
^^( most 600 packs are 6S1P at twice the capacity of 450 lipos)

Lipos alone you save half of the 600's cost. As for balancer, you don't need to balance it together. Just charge them seperately like any 450 pack. If you already have a 6S charger, there's not much extra expense besides wiring the 2 balance connectors together. They both end up being 4.2v after a charge anyways. A single 6S balancer will balance it just fine, it might take longer because the pack may not match completely. You also get the flexibility to share packs between the 450 and 500. I don't see many people bundling 4 450 packs on the 600. Too much work. 2 450 packs aren't bad at all.

Electronics:

The servos between the 500 and 600 might end up the same, but most suggested gy401 over the gy601 for the 500, so there's your savings. Also, smaller ESC and motor if you want to upgrade from stock.

Replacement parts:

The blades alone will probably be enough of a difference. Probably the same as the lipo example, some where in between a 450 and 600. I know the 600 blades are $80 a pair, it's NOT cheap. I suspect the rest of the components will be similar in cost. Probably slightly cheaper than the 600, all these little things add up in the end.

So in the end, the 500 is "just right". Not too small like the 450, but not too expensive like the 600.

[Pinecone]

There is a cost difference is packs, the t500 uses 2, so the cost is double what the 450 uses!

But who has only 1 pack for their 450? :)

I have 4 FP EVOs, 2 DN, 4 TP Prolites, and 4 Polyquest 20s. :) Of course these are also used in some planks.

[Pinecone]

Actually, today I got a lesson in heli economics (indirectly). I downloaded the new Cyrsis demo for my WIndows XP PC and found out that my system doesn't meet minimum requirements - I would need to drop another $1500 on a new system to play it right. My current computer system is "only" two years old.:computertrash I guess I won't be playing Crysis; but oddly enough, there is a Trex 500 in my future.

I can't justify upgrading my PC every two years, but upgrading my heli every year is just fine!:lol:

My average on major PC upgrades over 20 years has been 2.5 years.

By major upgrade I mean at least CPU, motherboard and video.

286/10 to 386/33 to 486/33 to 486/66 to Pentium 166 to Pentium 2 400 to P3 1GHz to AMD Athalon 64 3400+. I am a bit behind for another upgrade. :)

In between the major upgrades have been minor ones. The P166 to P233, the P2 400 to P2 600 and the AMD 3400+ to 3700+, along with video card upgrades, hard drive upgrades, memory upgrades.

[Hulley]

But who has only 1 pack for their 450? :)

I have 4 FP EVOs, 2 DN, 4 TP Prolites, and 4 Polyquest 20s. :) Of course these are also used in some planks.
I have 5 batteries for my 450, but I still had to BUY them!
A month ago I had nothing, I was starting from scratch. If I already had a 450 and a bunch of batteries/chargers and stuff then the t500 would probably be a minimal investment. But for ME, having to start with nothing, I decided to go with the 450 because it is way less money that the t500 and I "think" (I dont know) that the t500 wont be too far from the cost of a t600! Which I would rather have, or a Logo or who knows maybe I'll get the damn t500 :arggg::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Pinecone]

You will, you KNOW you will. :)

And has been pointed out, 2 x 3S 2200 are under $150, even for FP EVO 25s. :)

And since you already have the 450 and packs, the 500 will be that much less to get into the air. :)

As for servos, my Quick of Japan EP8 (400 mm blades) uses HS-81s.

[ChasHeliCop]

Guys, I didn't mean to start an arguement, I was just curious how many people planned on buying one. Me, Me, Me ! Only I am thinking about the Futaba servos.......BLS451 Brushless Digital High-Torque High-Speed Servo.
I am looking for that package under the X-,mas tree.

[Hulley]

You will, you KNOW you will. :)

And has been pointed out, 2 x 3S 2200 are under $150, even for FP EVO 25s. :)

And since you already have the 450 and packs, the 500 will be that much less to get into the air. :)

Yeah Yeah, your probably right!:lol: I've been adding up the total cost of the Logo today and I didnt like the figure I've been coming up with :mad:, Makes the t500 pretty inticing! But man that Logo is one sweet bird! :arggg:

[Hulley]

Guys, I didn't mean to start an arguement,
No problems here, I think Terry was just helping me work out my addiction, er problem, er situation, er somthing :thumbup: We are all cool here!:smokin:

[Finsta]

I can.

450 lipo 3S1P, let's say it's $50 for ease of comparison
500 lipo, 6S1p, 2 of the 450 lipos. $100
600 lipo, 6S2P, that's 4 450 lipos. $200
^^( most 600 packs are 6S1P at twice the capacity of 450 lipos)

Lipos alone you save half of the 600's cost. As for balancer, you don't need to balance it together. Just charge them seperately like any 450 pack. If you already have a 6S charger, there's not much extra expense besides wiring the 2 balance connectors together. They both end up being 4.2v after a charge anyways. A single 6S balancer will balance it just fine, it might take longer because the pack may not match completely. You also get the flexibility to share packs between the 450 and 500. I don't see many people bundling 4 450 packs on the 600. Too much work. 2 450 packs aren't bad at all.

Electronics:

The servos between the 500 and 600 might end up the same, but most suggested gy401 over the gy601 for the 500, so there's your savings. Also, smaller ESC and motor if you want to upgrade from stock.

Replacement parts:

The blades alone will probably be enough of a difference. Probably the same as the lipo example, some where in between a 450 and 600. I know the 600 blades are $80 a pair, it's NOT cheap. I suspect the rest of the components will be similar in cost. Probably slightly cheaper than the 600, all these little things add up in the end.

So in the end, the 500 is "just right". Not too small like the 450, but not too expensive like the 600.

Hey -Thanks for trying to convince :) I guess I am not all that hard core. I was planning on running woodies on the 600 for a while and the gy 401 gyro seems appropriate for this size heli. Woodies are like 20.00 for 600mm size (6.00 difference)I was going to get. Right now for me, I just see a 100.00 pack difference, which is pretty big, but also have to charge and connect more than one battery. However, I can see the more hard core 3d guy running the more expensive blades. The 450 carbons I have are like 50.00 and I woud not consider that cheap either. I will probably grab one later down the road when we can really see what the machine does at its basic configuration of 2 3s 2500 lipos. Seems to me in the video like it looked like it was dragging? May be the video, but it looked like it was lacking power.

[Rex-flyer]

I plan on getting one

[jlewis99]

I will definately get one!

[Finless]

I have decided after reviewing my inventory NOT to get one. I really dont see the need and I have too many heli's anyway. I have 3 in this size range already!

I dont think this heli is anything special and so I have decided I really dont need one. THis means I also wont be doing a build video either. Sorry folks.

Bob

[zjuggler]

I have decided after reviewing my inventory NOT to get one. I really dont see the need and I have too many heli's anyway. I have 3 in this size range already!

I dont think this heli is anything special and so I have decided I really dont need one. THis means I also wont be doing a build video either. Sorry folks.

Bob

Uh huh...very convincing...

Now try it again, and wipe that grin off your face! :lol:

[raylepper]

Bob's tryng to slow down the demand so he can be sure to get one AND plenty of spares. A dastardly trick by which I shall not be taken in.

[OICU812]

No I am pretty sure Bob is serious. Besides he has a life to and should not be expected to make build vids for every heli etc. Videos will and can help you, however you should be able to build the basics yourself and most manuals do a real good job in step by step instructions.

Way I see it if Bob does not get this heli or make a video none of you should assume that means anything negative about the heli, furthermore no one better give the guy flak over it. Be well.

[warpspeed]

I voted yes, but I'll be waiting for the V2 to come out so I can pick up a V1 at half the price!