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terrabit
12-03-2007, 06:10 AM
I'm attempting to choose a motor for my L600 3d. Wow! Lots of choices! I'll be running FP 10s 3700's. I want solid perfomance both in terms of power and battery life. I like Neu motors. I've also been hearing great things about Kontronik's stuff and I'll likely be running a Jazz ESC.
So, what kv should I be targeting? What pinion? And how does all this play into the battery life/power formula?
I'm still relatively new to the Hellis. I'm certainly not a hard core 3d'er but, I am definately hooked!
By the way, I've got a Neu 1515 2d for sale if anyone is interested.
Thanks again!
john
Eyefly
12-03-2007, 06:57 AM
You will need roughly 800KV. Not too sure of the pinion though. Check the head speed calculator...
http://www.readyheli.com/Online_Headspeed_Calculator_s/81.htm
The Tango 45-7 is the one you will need. Some folks run the 45-8 and it will do well. The Kontronic motor is great. It is a solid performer. The Neu "H" series also comes to mind Not sure which you would need though. Perhaps a 1910 or 1912. Make sure you get the "H" version as it has better cooling for heli needs. The other popular one would be the Z Power motors. I have no experience with these. Perhaps someone who does can chime in.
-1912-1y ``H`` version, big power, dubious longevity
-z50-800 decent power and effeciency, counter bearing is necessary due to soft shaft
-tango 45-08, effecient, not tremendously powerful
-actro 24-3, big power, effecient, and proven reliability
There are a few others like the 32-3, 1915 etc. that are overkill options too.
LITHIUMSTATIC
12-03-2007, 11:09 AM
Since your still new to helis my recomendation would be a Tango 45-08. You will enjoy it's longer flight times and when you want to go to something more powerful in a year or so just upgrade. A 13 tooth pinion would work great on this motor for learning. :thumbup:
If you were more of a sport/3D pilot I would go with a NEU 19121Y/H or an Actro.
th3tick
12-04-2007, 09:05 AM
-1912-1y ``H`` version, big power, dubious longevity
What stories have you heard about this motor? I've not heard a bad one yet. The closest I know of is Mercuriell's 1910 top coming off.
John
OICU812
12-04-2007, 01:40 PM
I had a couple 1912s have main shaft break away from the inner mag, also one had the shaft eat itself by spinning inside the od of bottom bearing. I have heard they are using a new adhesive to address this issue, I have not tried the new batches yet though. I had 3 1910s blow out the bearings in less than 50 flights as well :(, apparently though that was a bad batch of bearings as well.
terrabit
12-10-2007, 02:28 PM
Has anyone used the Tango 45-8? Mikado says they do not recomend this motor with 10s. They do recomend the Actro 24-4 but, I can't find one "in stock". (The Actro 24-3 seems to be more available) The Neu 1915H1Y is also hard to find "in stock". Any more advice?
MrMel
12-10-2007, 03:03 PM
Go with the Actro 24-3
BruceW
12-10-2007, 03:08 PM
You should also look at the Tango 45-7 (700KV) or Tango 45-6 (640KV) at Espritmodel.com. The motor RPM rating is limited to 25,000 for the Tango motors and if you run the 45-8 on 10S, you'll be around 27,000.
You could try my head speed calculator application (for Windows) and punch in these different motors to help see rated motor speed and head speed for a given pinion.
http://brucewsb.s3.amazonaws.com/Files/HSCalc.zip
Bruce
fogger
12-10-2007, 03:09 PM
Hacker A50-14S 10-pole? Not super effieicnt, but cheap and reliable, with good torque. Buy 2 for the cost of a Neu or Tango. Good motor even for 3d. I run the A50-14S on my t-rex 600 (10s).
-Fog
terrabit
12-11-2007, 04:33 AM
You should also look at the Tango 45-7 (700KV) or Tango 45-6 (640KV) at Espritmodel.com. The motor RPM rating is limited to 25,000 for the Tango motors and if you run the 45-8 on 10S, you'll be around 27,000.
You could try my head speed calculator application (for Windows) and punch in these different motors to help see rated motor speed and head speed for a given pinion.
http://brucewsb.s3.amazonaws.com/Files/HSCalc.zip
Bruce
Thanks!
Can anyone tell me what head speed I should be targeting for mild to moderate with a premium on battery life?
Anyone know where I can pick up an Actro 24-3 or 24-4? They seem to be hard to get right now.