600n-normal or pro

[kaan.gok]

I just decided to buy the 600n for my first nitro (I have a 450se and a Swift), but cannot decide between regular and pro version. If I'm not mistaken the differences between two are the
canopy (plastic or fiberglass)
frames (fiberglass or carbon)
tail drive (belt or torque tube).

Plastic canopy and belt drive are fine for me, I'll upgrade them after my first big crash anyway :). Are carbon-fiber frames worth the difference? I don't do hard 3d, flips and rolls are all I can do so far. There is a 200$ price difference between two versions, I can buy the engine with that. Should I wait a little more and save money for the pro version or just buy the regular version now and start flying? What are your opinions?

[brgsstm]

I would go with the pro, you'll wish u did if you didnt in the first place. I tend to think that if i were to buy the sport i would want to upgrade to the torque tube and frames so if you can afford it go pro!

[scottc]

At your level of flying you dont need the pro get the belt drive sport and have fun and like you said you may just upgrade some of the items later.

[stevehonn]

I'd disagree! I'd go for the Sport with the plastic canopy and G10 frames, you'd have to be a damn good flyer to tell the difference between the sideframe materials in flight and the G10 frames are much cheaper than the carbon versions. Again with the tail drive, the belt is fine and the difference between this and the torque tube would be un-noticable to the majority of flyers and the TT drive is much more vulnerable to damage and repairs are much more expensive than the belt version, most crashes will leave the belt unscathed.

For comparison I have an early 600E which has had all the upgrades fitted, including the torque tube and I really couldn't say it was markely better than when it was stock, when I bought my 600N I went for the sport with belt drive and it's staying belt drive.

[dennis052]

Go with pro. The price difference between pro and normal is very small if you can find the right vendor. The fiber glass canopy will cost you $90. I have so much problem with the stock plastic canopy came with the normal version. The decal always come off after few flight with contacting the nitro fuel. It get worst if you wipe it with a towel after flight. The glass fiber frame is great but not the best. It flexs alot and turn to gold color after a few good flights. The carbon fiber frame and the pre-painted FG canopy from the pro package are hassle free.

[captcasper7]

I have both the Sport and the Pro, when they are in the air there is very little difference between the two.

I tend to fly the sport harder than the pro as the cost of a crash is less

Both are good

[aevans692]

I have the pro , and I am so glad that I got it, there are some really nice touches which makes it a bit nicer.. The canopy is first class, and the TT is so silky smooth, makes belt adjustments a thing of the past..

If you go sport you will always be looking at the pro and wishing you had gone pro.. If you can afford it then get it you wont regret it , but if your on a budget and want to get the heli in the air the you wont be disappointed with the sport.. you can always up grade latter...

If you do get the sport dont go flying wit guys who have the pro,, you will be jealous lol....

[invertmast]

get what you can afford.. the differences between the two aren't huge, and the fact that you can upgrade the sport to a pro for less than $200 (not including frames) later down the road just makes it even better, for when you do decide you want to try a TT... but for me personally... the extra $20-30 per crash for not having to worry about a boom slipping in the mount and the belt loosening up is worth it... I've had that problem w/ both a 600E, my avant and a raptor.. w/ a TT you no longer have to worry about it..as much

[aevans692]

I get boom slip on my raptor 50 titan every now ant then, TT is the best way to go..

[SteveL]

Wait till the boom slips on your TT

[ClayK]

Get the standard version. If the question boils down to fly now or fly later, I vote fly now. You'll eventually upgrade (if you want), but you don't have to since belt is fine and CF frames aren't a necessity.

The tail boom blocks are a little bit better on the TRex than the Raptor. I only had a boom slip once on my Raptor but have yet to have it happen on my TT Trex or my belt Trex. Tape or CA helps keep the boom in place if you have concerns.

[invertmast]

Get the standard version. If the question boils down to fly now or fly later, I vote fly now. You'll eventually upgrade (if you want), but you don't have to since belt is fine and CF frames aren't a necessity.

The tail boom blocks are a little bit better on the TRex than the Raptor. I only had a boom slip once on my Raptor but have yet to have it happen on my TT Trex or my belt Trex. Tape or CA helps keep the boom in place if you have concerns.

boom slip on my 600E was a daily occurence even w/ tape on the boom. The N boom blocks looks beefier than the E, so i dont persee slip as a problem.

[aevans692]

Boom slippage is a pain and get it from time to time on my raptor, that is not a problem on the pro.. there are diff things which can cause boom slip, I would not just base getting a pro because of boom slip,

the pro version I think is just finished off better, with the canopy you dont get pealing stickers and the nitro has not had any effect on mine, the canopy's truly are first class , The carbon frames look good too...lol..

Treat yourself to the pro it is Christmas after all.....

D'oh! D'oh! D'oh!

[aussiemick]

From what I have read the TT tail has more the possibilty of spitting the whole tail assembly off in fast piro manoeuvres, the recommendation is to drill thru the case and the tail boom and fit a small selftapping screw.
I cant get the nerve to drill thru my brand new helicopter, I will wait till it has at least flown a bit, no real fast piro's till then :)

Mick

[kaan.gok]

I decided to go with the normal version. Had a good deal on ebay (~250 USD). Canopy is no problem, I can paint it if I have problems with stickers.(have necessary tools&supplies). And I can upgrade to the TT at first crash, which will happen sooner or later :) Carbon frames are not important, I don't (can't) do 3d, and seems like I'll never will :P

[aevans692]

From what I have read the TT tail has more the possibilty of spitting the whole tail assembly off in fast piro manoeuvres, the recommendation is to drill thru the case and the tail boom and fit a small selftapping screw.
I cant get the nerve to drill thru my brand new helicopter, I will wait till it has at least flown a bit, no real fast piro's till then :)

Mick

I have not heard this to be a problem before , I have been flying my pro for bout 5 months now and have not had this problem, and I do fast piro;s

I have heard of people drilling the case but I don't think it is really needed, I check my heli over after every session and all has been fine, I have not seen this mod on any of the 600 which fly at my field .

[aussiemick]

I have not heard this to be a problem before , I have been flying my pro for bout 5 months now and have not had this problem, and I do fast piro;s

I have heard of people drilling the case but I don't think it is really needed, I check my heli over after every session and all has been fine, I have not seen this mod on any of the 600 which fly at my field .

Have a look at Finless' build video step 17, starting at 9min 50 sec !!

http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=finless/trex600_nitro&filename=step17.wmv

Mick

[Anubis328]

Wait till the boom slips on your TT

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't the boom have to slip a LOT in order to notice it with the Torque Tube?

I have one installed on my 600e, and have never had an issue. Also... there's like 1/2 inch on either side that get's pressed in on the install... In my opinion, the boom would almost have to come off before you'd notice a problem.

Is this a common issue, because I've never heard of it?

[aevans692]

I know that bob mentioned it in his build video , but I have never seen a tail come off before, so I would think that the extra screw is not needed.

[captcasper7]

I know that bob mentioned it in his build video , but I have never seen a tail come off before, so I would think that the extra screw is not needed.


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