Help with my Hurricane 200 build

[Doug Darby]

Got a new 200 for Christmas and I have a couple questions if anyone can help:

1. The motor has three black wires comming out that plug into the Speed control but as best I can tell the motor wires are all black and unmarked where the Speed control has a black, blue, and Red.. Any ideas on which wire from the motor to which ESC wire?

2. It is so small I am struggleing with good spots to mount the electonics.. any ideas or better yet any pictures?

Overall any recommendation you have on the build, I would greatly value.

Thanks in advance for your help.

[wlfk]

With brushless motors you plug the wires in any-old-way. If it works, great. If it goes backwards, pick any two wires and swap them round.

K

[Pinecone]

If this seems harsh, I apologize upfront, but if you don't know how to hook up a burshless motor, this heli is probably not a good chocie for you now. It is fairly twitchy and hard to fly compared to larger ones. YES, the videos show some awesome flying, but remebmer those peopel flying could make ANY thing look and fly woderfully. :)

But to answer your question, brushless motors are actually AC motors, so hook up the wires and power up. If the motor spins backwards, swap any two wires and it will turn the other way.

[Brent@paradise]

Hi doug,

The motor answer has been answered, here are some pictures of mine. Sorry about the picture quality.
This heli is very stable for its size.

I got the EP200SE Light Combo from flying hobby, the big black box at the front is a JR R77S reciver.

[Wazzer]

Wow i didnt realise quite how small they were!!

Those pics with the tellebe gyro (looks like a tellebe) and JR RX really give it some perspective.

I havent really paid any attention to this heli before but it looks pretty well thought out.

And you say its pretty stable?

Can you compare it to any other heli's flight characteristics wise?

I learnt to fly on an old shogun 400 and it flies very well when set up properly.

Cheers

Ben

[Brent@paradise]

Yep they are small, the gryo is a Align REC550 HH works great.

It flys very much like a Trex 450.

I also have a shogun 400 and this easyer to fly than the Trex 450.

Iam not into 3D but it is very prower fully Heli.

The great thing is i can fly it in my spare bed room and the 2S 850mha batterys costs about 20US

[Wazzer]

So your saying your 400 is easier to fly than the trex450?

I have also found the same thing, I built and set up a 450SE V2 for a friend recently and when i test hoverd it i was surprised thinking it would be much more stable. I am also aware that it is designed for 3D so needs to be more responsive.

My Shogun is currently flying very well but i am accutley aware of how old a design it is and parts and info are now getting very hard to find.

I am getting a second hand Hurricane 550 in the next week or so so hopefully will be able to retire the 400.(although i still have lots of batt packs for it so will probably fly it till i can no longer repair it!)

I suppose its wishfull thinking that my 400 electrics package would fit the 200?

Would my spare batteries from my old Lama V3 (2S 800mAh) be ok for this heli?
Not sure what the C rating is though probably not enough.

Thanks for the info

Ben

[Brent@paradise]

Yep Shogan 400 is easier to fly than the trex450 to start with, But the trex450 is a much better helicopter and much more responsive.


I am useing a hs55 sevro on the tail of my H200, some people use a big GY401 on there H200.
I think my 2s batterys are only 10C rated.

[Doug Darby]

Thanks for the help guys and the pictures... Sorry to be so "stupid" Pinecone... I guess I was expecting wiring like I found on my 450 V2 which had the same color combination wires coming from the motor as the the speed control. At least you got a chance to set me straight with your knowledge. I expect that sort of thing on forums, just usually not on this forum. I guess I should have posted the question on the Newbie thread but I thought this one might be more appropriate. I will try not to waste any more of your time.

To the rest of you with more patience I certainly appreciate the help and I should have it flying tomorrow if all goes well... And as usual on Helifreak I learned something today...

[Wazzer]

Brent
thats interesting about the 10C batteries

On closer inspection my Lama V3 batts are also 10C .

What type of flying and what flight times do you get?

Cheers

Ben

[Brent@paradise]

hi ben

i got two of these from helidirect looks like they are 15C

http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=2905

9US each.

Flying style is basic hovering nose in small figure 8s etc (indoor in small area), its windy in christchurch this time of year.

They last around 7 mins i put back in 600mha to 700mha. i fly untill the thing falls out of the air.(almost)
i don't care about the battery life. not at 9US each

[Brent@paradise]

Heres a small video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa8DqFHBQ60

[chopperben1]

Good luck with the build. Pics of my set-up are located at: http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=54365

I used the GY401 gyro and just mounted it about 8 cm in front of the motor on the battery tray. In my experience, this heli needs as much forward weight as you can give it for a good centre of gravity anyway.

Have fun, and I'd love to see some pics of your final set-up when you are done!

[papa.alpha]

Brent,

Will the Sonix batteries lay flat in the frame between the side frames? Or are you completely in front of the side frame. The ad says 30mm wide which seems too wide.

These are great little helis even for a not so talented driver - me, but learning from scratch on one might be a little hairy. At least the parts are cheap.

I also turned the motor around so the leads come out the back. I mounted the ESC under the bottom tray, under the motor with the motor leads aft and the battery leads going forward. A little unorthodox but, the ESC is so thin it barely hangs below the side frames and it looks pretty clean. My thought was to keep the high current away from the gyro ( a 401 mounted forward of the motor on the bottom tray) and receiver (a 6100 mounted forward on a CF plate epoxied to the top forward aluminum cross frame brace). So far no problems, not that anyone else is having any. :-)

[istandalone]

now i'm not trying to start a flame war here, but dude, read pinecone's very first statement. If this seems harsh, I apologize
he wasn't trying to be a dick, just trying to help in that if you're that new to the hobby that maybe this bird might be too much for you. small helis are notorious for being hard to handle. also stating that if it's your first bird maybe shelf it for now and get something more stable until you can hone your skills. trust me-nobody on this forum is going to insult you intentionally. i'm a member of too many forums, and most of them are full of A-holes. not so here. maybe it's just the type of people this hobby attracts, but everyone here is very very nice and helpful-not here to cause anger and discontent but here to share knowledge and communicate.

[Doug Darby]

Chopperben1.. I will try and get some photo's posted. I have been having so much fun flying around in my shop that I haven't taken time to take some photos... It is much easier to fly with the 2S as the head speed is down. I have one 3S and I use it too but I lowered the throttle curve down considerabley for it. I flew my 450 and 600 yesterday after spending 3 days on the 200 and it make the 450 seem very tame in comparison. That is what I was after. If I can improve on this little bird in my shop I will be much more comfortable with my bigger heli's (or so it seems now).

If this seems harsh, I apologize... but I now am competely versed on wiring a brushless motor,,, "and thats all I'm gonna say about that".. (Forest Gump)

[istandalone]

heli kits are like a box of chocolates. you never know what you're going to get.

[Mikej]

They're fun, Forest, fun

[Pinecone]

Thanks, that was my intent.

In general, the larger the heli, the smoother and more stable it is to fly.

I have not flown my Hurricane 200, but the EP-100 that it grew from was very squirrely. Flyable, but not by most beginners.

[robl]

ep100 was a piece of crap, at least the SE was. The hurricane 200 is a much better flying heli. I took my ep100SE with stretch kit and hurricane frame (basically its a hurricane 200 now) out for a test fly today and it was pretty stable. Maybe not as stable as a trex 450, but damn, I can do flips with a trex 600 and 450 and I couldn't fly a blade cp pro at all so this thing isn't too bad. I'd say if beginners can learn on a blade cp (don't ask me how), they can certainly learn on this thing.

[JIMKID MOTORSPORTS]

the battery that i have is to wide to go between the frames and sticks out to far forward to put the canopy on what do you do turn it on an angle