View Full Version : Starting my build... anything I should know?
jackheli
01-02-2008, 02:24 AM
Hi guys,
just picked up a standard kit. I've built two 600Es and a ton of other helicopters...
Just wandering if there are any issues to be careful while building this one.
Thanks for your advice.
Mercuriell
01-02-2008, 03:14 AM
I think you'll find the build very straightforward - main issues really are access to servos and sensor after she's together - I'd certainly recommend glueing on the plastic servo nuts and definitely put in a governor sensor before the sides go together. Use a metal fan - Align one fine - you might not have any probs but if you did you'd be cussin to have to break it down - other than that I can't think you'd have probs. Obviously Bob has the complete video build (http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=41514) but if you wanted to just see the differences between the E & N you could check mine (http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=36177) out,
jackheli
01-02-2008, 02:16 PM
Hi Mercuriell,
thanks for your tips. I am in the process of downloading all the videos. I can imagine the time it took to shoot them, based on how much time is needed to watch them!
As I understand the metal fan is only needed if the plastic version rubs on the shroud? The problem being that if it does then you need to disassemble everything to get the metal fan in? Just checking.
Also, being new to this heli I am not sure what you mean by "glueing the plastic servo nuts". Is this something covered by the videos or another thread?
Thank you very much for your help.
Jack
davew
01-02-2008, 03:44 PM
I found it a lot easier to fit the servos before i assembled the frames ,you can then cable tie the servo leads inside the frames,be careful to route the leads for the front two servos so they dont rub on the starter shaft.
brgsstm
01-02-2008, 04:27 PM
Hi Mercuriell,
thanks for your tips. I am in the process of downloading all the videos. I can imagine the time it took to shoot them, based on how much time is needed to watch them!
As I understand the metal fan is only needed if the plastic version rubs on the shroud? The problem being that if it does then you need to disassemble everything to get the metal fan in? Just checking.
Also, being new to this heli I am not sure what you mean by "glueing the plastic servo nuts". Is this something covered by the videos or another thread?
Thank you very much for your help.
Jack
The servo nuts are the black plastic things that the screws for attaching your servos thread into. What John was referring to was to glue them to the inside of your frames to make it easier for servo install.
Tom
Mercuriell
01-02-2008, 04:54 PM
There are two fan issues - how much they flex - how well they cool. If you have a governor sensor fan flexing can / does destroy the sensor which ruins close to the fan and can throw the sensor magnets out. The new plastic fan Align supplies is supposedly better but I haven't tried it One of the metal fans will remove it all together. As far as cooling goes some designs of the first metal fans were reported by some to lead to engine overheating. The ALign metal fan is cheapest of the bunch, comes with magnets and I haven't heard of any problems. I am gonna use the QuickUK fan but this is expensive - an indepth review was done by Trextuning (http://www.trextuning.com/600n-fans.php).
jackheli
01-02-2008, 06:56 PM
The servo nuts are the black plastic things that the screws for attaching your servos thread intoShouldn't be more complicated than the 600E, should they? I had no problems with mine at the time. Are they different on the N?
Thanks for the tip on the fan.
fiveoboy01
01-03-2008, 03:07 AM
I really didn't have too much trouble with the servo nuts on mine, and I put my servos in after assembling the frame halves.
Also another option for the governor sensor is to mount it to the outside of the frame and put a small hole in the fan shroud so the sensor can be mounted close to the magnet. This makes it a lot easier to adjust/change the sensor if needed.
aussiemick
01-03-2008, 03:20 AM
It is a bit of a contortion to put the "Nuts" on with the heli together.
I wish I knew to glue the nuts in place before starting out, would have saved about a half hours fiddling.
Mick
brgsstm
01-03-2008, 04:18 AM
Yeah the nuts can be tricky but like Mick said it only takes hlf an hour to get them in if you dont glue them.
Tom
Mercuriell
01-03-2008, 05:22 AM
Its the throttle and rudder servos which are most difficult to get at as they are under the lateral cyclic servos and boxed in by the main shaft, the receiver tray and the engine !
aussiemick
01-03-2008, 06:01 AM
Its the throttle and rudder servos which are most difficult to get at as they are under the lateral cyclic servos and boxed in by the main shaft, the receiver tray and the engine !
If you built the heli before dropping in the servos then definately put the rudder and throttle servos in first, I could imagine how hard it would be to fit these servos if the upper servos are in place first.
Mick