View Full Version : Which Servos for Hurricane 200
Mikej
01-05-2008, 10:30 AM
What are the servo options for the Hurricane 200 / EP100 V2 ??
I know that HS-55s and BB306s will work - anyone using anything else ??
Thanks,
Mike.
wespen
01-05-2008, 12:03 PM
I have GWS PICO STD.
Works great. Good centering and fast enough.
Wesp
scarr
01-05-2008, 01:17 PM
I am using the DSP60 Spektrum digital servo and do like them. They center very well. I did have to mount the front 2 from the inside and shim out the rear elevator servo to center the link to the swash, no big deal to do really. They are very fast so be aware of that, I had to tone them down with expo for a while until I got used to the heli.
chopperben1
01-05-2008, 05:52 PM
I am using the Hitec HS-45HB's on the cyclics and a Futaba S3153 on the tail. So far, this set-up is working well. The Hitecs fit really well too.
Good luck.
Sim-0
02-01-2008, 06:22 AM
I am using the DSP60 Spektrum digital servo and do like them. They center very well. I did have to mount the front 2 from the inside and shim out the rear elevator servo to center the link to the swash, no big deal to do really. They are very fast so be aware of that, I had to tone them down with expo for a while until I got used to the heli.
Hey scarr
I've got a DSP60 ready for the tail (currently HS50) and was thinking of swapping the others too but I was worried about the current drain. The Gaui BEC is only 2A and I have no idea how much juice these little digis use.
I guess if you are not having any probs I will go ahead and fit the full kit. Is any one else using DSP60s
I was very disappointed with the 306s that came with the heli. Having the bottom of the servo pop off when pushing the arm on the other side is pretty poor.
Cheers
Simon
Buzzkill
02-01-2008, 09:02 AM
I've got HS-45HBs and an DSP60 on the tail.
scarr
02-01-2008, 05:10 PM
I am using the 3 DSP60's and the Logictech2100T with the 3100G on the tail. I probably have over 100 flights on it and have never had any problems running off of the Gaui esc power.
Buzzkill
02-01-2008, 10:45 PM
Scarr, do you have the programer for the DSP's? I just picked it up tonight and am going to see if it helps center the servo arm on the DSP60's.
Brent@paradise
02-02-2008, 04:04 AM
Hi Mike
Hs55 will only fit the tail.
I got the light combo from flying-hobby, you get 4 MX306 Ball Bearing servos.
I use a HS55 for the tail so i have one spare for the cyclic.
I here the Hs45 are good and fit the cyclic. But Cost.
Buzzkill
02-02-2008, 09:22 AM
I tried the Spektrum DSP last night on my tail servo.
You connect your spektrum servo and your Rx battery to the programmer. It has three "modes” airplane, helicopter and tail rotor. The servo arm will "shake" telling you what mode it’s in. One, two or three "shakes" respectively.
For helicopter and tail rotor modes the gain is increased for faster response around neutral and increased accuracy. Tail rotor mode sets the highest gain for maximum response. I had to turn down my 401 gain from 75 to 60.
Another great feature is the programmer lets you set your neutral point and end points. I have struggled with the 200 tail trying to adjust my DX7, servo placement and 401 to get the tail linkage perfect. With the small parts, 401 stuffed in the frame and plastic servo mounts this has been difficult. With the programmer, I was able to set the neutral point and throws in two simple pushes of a button.
My tail rotor lines up perfectly; the servo horn sits at 90 to the servo and with the end points set (manually turn servo horn to end point or maximum throw hit the PWM button turn to other end point and press PWM button again) my linkage doesn’t bind at all. All this and I didn’t have to touch the 401 or my radio other than adjusting the gyro gain on the DX7.
I was only able to get a few hovers in my living room after the programming but I certainly noticed a difference. The tail was locked in rock solid and extremely fast. VERY VERY fast but still solid, no kickback or slop. I was surprised how different the tail was. It was good before but now it just seems locked in. The only thing I can compare it too is my Trex 450 SE V2 tail and frankly, I'm not sure my trex tail "feels" this good. I do need to add some expo to the rudder to calm it down a bit since now its very sensative.
I'm going to a sports dome tonight with my girl friend (get your significant other a CX2) so I'll have some real flights to report on tomorrow.
I like the DSP (digital servo programmer) so much that I'm going to my LHS today to get more of the DSP60's so I can swap out my HS45's on the cyclic. For $26.00 this has been the best upgrade I've done so far to my 200.
Come to think of it, now that I'll have three extra micro servos I'm only one gyro and a kit away from a second Gaui 200. Bonus!
scarr
02-02-2008, 06:28 PM
Buzzkill, I have been thinking about getting the programmer and now I think I will.... I have the Logictech 2100T with the 3100G on the tail and am impressed on how locked in the tail is with it. Seems better than the 401 in the T-Rex, although I have no problem with it, the Logictech just feels a little bit more solid but will admit it is a little more difficult to initially set up than compared to a 401.......
Buzzkill
02-03-2008, 03:47 AM
Got some good flights in at the dome tonight! My GF took a few pics that are fuzzy and an accidental video that last about 10 sec. I'll try to post in the morning. Tail held like a champ.
There was about 50 flyers there and probably 30 came over to see the Gaui 200. It was the hit of the night. So much so that I only got in 5 packs in 2 hours. Three guys had the 200 on order and probably a half dozen more are gonna pick one up.
Everyone wanted to know how "twitchy" it was, to which I let go of the controls looked them in the face and said " It's pretty stable!" The hands free, three second hover spoke for it's self.
ROne21
02-04-2008, 04:32 AM
Got some good flights in at the dome tonight! My GF took a few pics that are fuzzy and an accidental video that last about 10 sec. I'll try to post in the morning. Tail held like a champ.
There was about 50 flyers there and probably 30 came over to see the Gaui 200. It was the hit of the night. So much so that I only got in 5 packs in 2 hours. Three guys had the 200 on order and probably a half dozen more are gonna pick one up.
Everyone wanted to know how "twitchy" it was, to which I let go of the controls looked them in the face and said " It's pretty stable!" The hands free, three second hover spoke for it's self.
Hey Buzz, I was one the guys who came up to you admiring your 200 in flight. As soon as I saw it hovering, somehow I knew it was the 200. I was the one with the camera. I took pics of yours so I can 'copy' your setup. It's nice to know someone local with the same heli. I'm new to this addiction and so I'm gathering knowledge as much as I can. Currently, I'm also building the Trex 450 SE V2. I don't know if you saw it but I had it with me last night in its skeletal form. I was stuck on the build and I needed to see other 450s to compare it with to make sure I'm on the right path. Luckily, ALL the guys at the dome are very kind to answer all my noob questions. As I'm a new member on this forum, I did not know there are how to videos on the 450 made available by Finless. All the guys that I talked to that night pointed me to them.
Please keep me updated on your 200. If you're going to order anything for it, let me know and we'll double up the order and split the shipping or something. How often do you go to the dome and which day?
Buzzkill
02-04-2008, 09:37 AM
I'm going to try and get down there every Friday and Sat. night until april. For the fineless videos look here:
http://www.helifreak.com/forumdisplay.php?f=60
There's lots of great stuff in there. Just look for the Trex 450 videos. Let me know when you'll be at the dome I'll help ya setup your birds.
ROne21
02-04-2008, 08:46 PM
Yup, thanks for the link.
I was at Al's today and picked up some stuff for the 200. These should complete the kit. Take a look....
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/IntenseR1/Picture2595h18.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/IntenseR1/Picture2595h21.jpg
Before...
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/IntenseR1/Picture2595h22.jpg
After....
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/IntenseR1/Picture2595h24.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/IntenseR1/Picture2595h26.jpg
This CF boom is next....I gotta figure out how to remove the boom with minimal disassembly.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t172/IntenseR1/Picture2595h27.jpg
I picked up two Gaui batteries, 7.4V 800mAh, 2 cells for $22 each. What do you think? Would you recommend any other batteries that may last longer than these? Hopefully I'll finish the build before Friday then maybe, if you can, check it over, if time permits, and help me fine tune it at the dome :thumbup: Just so you know, there's a new 200 at Al's along with some extra parts in stock :YeaBaby: My 450 should be done this week also......and I have a Beam E4 coming tomorrow. If this is not addiction, I don't know what is.
Buzzkill
02-04-2008, 09:18 PM
Look's like good stuff. All quality parts. I'll see ya Friday. I stopped by Al's too and got some things. I don't want to be watching the action because of lack of parts.
Part list I picked up today:
3x Spectrum DSP60's (want to try them with the programer on the cyclic)
2x FG Canopys
2x Plastic blades
2x Wooden blades (new with reinforcement)
1x CF tail boom
1x bearing tail
1x cf landing gear
1x tail rotor blades
1x cnc seesaw
1x rudder linkage
2x Gaui batteries
1x CF tube (for rudder linkage mod)
Added too last weeks parts list:
2x linkage set
1x main gear set
1x landing gear skids
1x flybar paddles
2x cf landing gear
1x cf tail boom
1x wood main blades
1x rudder linkage
1x plastic blades
2x main shafts (x4)
2x flybar set
2x belts
1x tail blades
1x tail pitch control set
1x tail slider
I've got parts they dont carry comming from RediHeli (great online source)
203849 203849 Spindle Shaft Pack for SSD Main Rotor Yoke Gaui Hurricane 200
203120 203120 Tail Output Shaft Set Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203311 203311 Damper Rubbers Pack Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203572 203572 Mini Spacer & Brass Washer Spare Pack Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203631 203631 CNC Boom Mount Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203270 203270 Bearings (1.4x4x2)x 2pc Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203280 203280 Bearings (2x5x2.5) x 3pcs Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203290 203290 Bearings (3x6x2.5) x 2pcs Gaui Hurricane 200 1
803725 803725 Flange Bearings (3x6x2.5) Hurricane 200 1
203271 203271 Flange Bearing (2x5x2.3) Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203231 203231 Mast Collars Pack (L) Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203151 203151 Guide Wheels with Bearings Pack Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203250 203250 Bearings 2 pcs Gaui Hurricane 200 1
883503 883503 Metal Balls Pack (3.5mm with Neck) Hurricane 200 1
1/8 WIRE BLUE [BLUE] Servo Wire Braided Sleeving Wrap Kit - 1/8" 1
203325 203325 Metal Parts Pack Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203461 203461 Central Boom Assembly Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203442 203442 Lower Frame Set Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203441 203441 Upper Frame Set Gaui Hurricane 200 1
203443 203443 Bottom & Middle Plates Pack Gaui Hurricane 200 1
BLK_CBL_TIE 4" Black Cable Ties - 20pc. Zip Zippy Tie 1 $
RC_STYX-0015 RC Styx Custom RC Transmitter Gimbals (Select Size/Radio/Color) - 1/2" - Spektrum/JR - Silver 1
1/4 WIRE BLUE [Blue] Servo Wire Braided Sleeving Wrap Kit - 1/4" 1
I think I'll be covered !! So I plan on trying a few new things friday.
I almost picked up a Trex 500 today but I'm working on getting a Gaui 200 RTF (hs45s, 401, Futaba 3451, three DN packs,12 new part bags (various) and AR6100 from a fellow HeliFreak-er).
If you need any help setting it up or have questions you have my cell on the card I gave you.
Ya its an addiction but, my girlfriend like's it I like it, it's not illegal and if it kills me what a way to go! :)
Let me know what you think of the Beam, I've read good things about it. I think Bob is doing a build. I forgot to ask you what radio your using?
AutumnSummers1
02-04-2008, 10:02 PM
I got a Gaui 200 on order, and here are the extra parts that I got from Readyheli and the local hobbystore
X1 gf canopy
X1 plastic canopy
X1 cf boom
X2 alloy booms
X3 hs45 hb
X2 Flight power evo 800mah 2cells
X1 gy 401
X1 JR sm8 tail servo .06 transmit
X1 wooden blades
X2 belts
X2 ballcup sets
X1 ball set
X1 cnc seesaw
X1 spendel set
X4 flybar sets
X4 main shafts
X1 DN charger/balencer
X1 flight damper set
X1 belt gide pullys
X1 boom supports
X1 tail linkage set
X1 horzinal + vertical fins
X2 tail pitch slider
X1 stock skid set
X1 skid pipes
X1 cf landing gear set
X1 flybar adaptors
X1 spektrum ar6000 rx
X1 hs 45 gear set
X1 blue servo wire braiding kit
X1 tail output shaft set
X1 linkage set
X1 1way and main gear set
X1 micro heli blade holder
You guys think that I got enuff parts????
The bad thing is that 90% of this stuff is one order and I have not got it yet, Talk about a good day
when this order comes in, I'll probly fall to the ground and cry because I'll be so HAPPY!!!!!!!
The parts are so cheap from what i'm used to that I got a lot of stuff. Think I'll try some new moves with this heli
Buzzkill
02-04-2008, 10:17 PM
You really never know what you'll need until you need it. My luck I'll crash and not have a part I need.
Your Parts list looks good to me.
Personaly I'm gonna get another Gaui 200 ready to go just in case ;)
Between the last few post on here we may be keeping Gaui in business. Judging the amount of parts flying out the doors. Certainly from there point of view business is good!
AutumnSummers1
02-04-2008, 10:30 PM
Yeah I am also the one who will crash and not have the part that I need.
I like this little heli even if ive never seen one in person. I like the vids that are out
and the quality of the parts I'll order more parts after i get a few flights on this
heli and see were the weak spots are
Buzzkill
02-04-2008, 11:21 PM
When I'm on RediHeli I use the filter "most popular" in the parts list, that gives me an idea of what breaks first ;)
I may try these DSP60 servos on the cyclic tonight programed in "helicopter" mode with the spectrum DSP if I dont fall asleep first.
Just sealed the deal on another Gaui 200. Got a great price, $500 shipped! with:
HS45HB's (cyclic)
Futaba 3154 (tail)
Futaba 401 gyro
AR 6100
CF skids
CF Tailboom
Three batteries (DN dont know if there anygood)
Ton of new in the bag parts
Now I should be covered if something breaks !!
ROne21
02-05-2008, 03:02 AM
When I'm on RediHeli I use the filter "most popular" in the parts list, that gives me an idea of what breaks first ;)
I may try these DSP60 servos on the cyclic tonight programed in "helicopter" mode with the spectrum DSP if I dont fall asleep first.
Just sealed the deal on another Gaui 200. Got a great price, $500 shipped! with:
HS45HB's (cyclic)
Futaba 3154 (tail)
Futaba 401 gyro
AR 6100
CF skids
CF Tailboom
Three batteries (DN dont know if there anygood)
Ton of new in the bag parts
Now I should be covered if something breaks !!
Looks like you cleaned Al's stock on spare parts for the 200. Hopefully they'll re-stock their inventory soon. I saw the wooden blades but opted out on the plastic ones.
You scored a good deal on that 200....lots of extra parts. Where is it coming from? Will you get it by the weekend? It would be nice to see it at the dome.
Definitely I would let you know about the Beam. I'll probably bring it with me if I go to the dome this weekend. I'm curious as how it stacks up to the 450 SE V2 quality wise. You know the distributor is only 2 hours away from us....next day shipping for free...parts for it are readily available too.
The radio I'm using is the JR X9303 2.4Ghz. I'm still getting myself acquainted to it.
AutumnSummers1
02-05-2008, 06:31 AM
That beam is sweet, my friend won one at muncie this year, 1st in the pilon races with his 450.
100% Quality heli
Buzzkill, You got a deal on that 200, Hope your batteries are good
Buzzkill
02-05-2008, 02:52 PM
For anyone that has DSP60 or 70 servos and the DSP (digial servo programmer) from Spectrum this may help when your programing them.
The instructions are a little vauge but this is what worked for me:
1. Connect servo to DSP.
2. Connect rx battery directly to DSP.
3. Observe "shake" in servo arm denoting servo mode. 1 for airplane 2 for helicopter (cyclic) and 3 for Tail rotor.
4. Pressing MODE switches between modes. Press MODE button for desired mode.
5. REV button reverses direction of servo ( also availible on most radios and gyros).
6. Pressing REV button negates initial mode selection and must be reset.
7. Gentely move servo arm to desired centered position and press PWM button. The servo arm will move to the next "endpoint".
8. Adjust endpoint 1. An endpoint is the maximum distance you want the servo arm to travel in any one direction. Gentely move servo arm to maximum desired throw for endpoint1. Press PWM button. Servo arm will move to endpoint 2.
9. Adjust endpoint 2 and press PWM button. Servo arm will return to centered position.
10. Disconnect servo from DSP and rx battery from DSP.
11. Reconnect servo to gyro connection.
12. Attach rx battery to rx and test new settings.
13. Rinse and repeat.
Just kidding about the rinse and repeat part (just incase I get PM's about water damaged heli's).
The direction for the DSP aren't that great so I hope this helps.
Buzzkill
02-05-2008, 03:07 PM
Rone21,
I left some parts at Al's. I always carry parts when I fly so if you need something let me know.
CompuFoil
02-05-2008, 09:47 PM
Looks like I'm going to be joining you Gaui200 freaks!
I bought a used one and it should be here Thursday/Friday...can't wait!!