How much gyro is too much???

[HELINHAWAII]

I'm putting my shopping list together and researching...

I've seen the 500 with the good ol' 401 to the 611 and everything in between so it seems anything out there will fit. I've definately learned the proverb "buy the best you can afford." My question is, what is too much of a good thing. Is the 611 overkill? Is the 401 all this thing really needs? Does the 611 offer anything more usefull or better than the DS760. I'm SO freakin lost here!!!

This 500 is going to be my baby as it is what I can afford to fix on a monthly basis but I want to do it right from the get go so I'm not left wanting...ya know??? I'm not asking anyone to tell me what to buy...I'm just asking why one's better than the other and if that benifit is cost effective.

Thanks Freaks!

[Ticidytoc]

Choose what you can afford, fits your ability. Personally I will be using an old 601 in my 425mm sized heli.

I dont think the 601/611 is overkill by any means, I want a tail thats locked in and I happen to have one in the drawer.

[WiscHeli]

g770-3D is $100 cheaper then 611 and will hold just as good if not better ... thats what i use :lol:

[OICU812]

Spartan 760 Baby, Smaller, lighter than 611 an NO amp, equivalent performance, lower price. :wink:

[HELINHAWAII]

Well, I've tried Logictec gyros and I'm not really impressed with the finikiness of them. I like the 401 but I'm looking for something a little more advanced. The DS760 seems like a good choice but when coupled with a good servo and the USB lead, you're looking at around $310-330. RH has the 611 set on sale for $330 but it's gonna be almost 50g heavier. Will 50g make much of a difference on the 500 and will it's heft prove itself in terms of capability. Besides...the 611 has a really neato digital screen:thumbup: and we all know digital screens impress us!

[WiscHeli]

only reson bob didnt do a vidio on the g770-3d is horizon didnt want him to ,,, i still think he should just to compare them :thumbup:

[OICU812]

On helis this small 50grams makes a difference, almost guaranteed.

[Ticidytoc]

Spartan 760 Baby, Smaller, lighter than 611 an NO amp, equivalent performance, lower price. :wink:


Yeah, well I picked up one of those 2100's because people said they were the next greatest thing, not.

I will wait and see about this spartan thing, my trusty 601 will work for now.

[Efliernz]

G770T on mine - with an Hyperion Altas. Unbelievable stopping power.

[huskynox]

On helis this small 50grams makes a difference, almost guaranteed.

I love this quote, especially coming from a Flight Power guy. No offense to you personally of course (not trying to start anything) :)

It's just funny how people are nit-picking "grams" when it comes to a gyro, but jamming HEAVY, BIG Flight Packs in the 500. The Evo 2500 seems to be what most are pushing and yet they weigh 400 grams! The Thunder Power 2200 6S weighs in at 332 grams! That's a delta of 68 grams, or about 2.5oz! That's a lot of weight in my book!

I personally think if you were to ask anyone competing with a 500, they would be going for the lightest weight equipment available for flight performance, including Flight Packs.

I've said it before - I've never seen any PERFORMANCE built machine (whether it's an aircraft, bicycle, motorcycle, boat, or car) benefit from weight.

[WiscHeli]

i know the 770 is light :lol:

[Finless]

If it was me..... I would use a 401/9257 if you have one. If you gotta buy something I have to say the DS760 with 9257 or full blown with 9256 is what I would do myself.... Realize if your running Trex450 packs your going to be tail heavy with the full sized 9256.

Just telling you would I would do if I was buying it all today.

Bob

[Ticidytoc]

Dont forget the 601/611 will run a 9257 or 3400 once you change the pulse width to narrow. So you do not have to use the servo that came with it. I'm going to run a 3400 with my 601, I don't think a 9251 is needed for this size heli.

[erniefritz]

I put a Spartan on my T500 , I usually run a 611 on all my machines except for my 450. I love this Gyro , you can bet i will be changing all my heli's over to this Gyro , including my 450.... :)

[fogger]

JK is using a 611 and I'm pretty sure I saw 9650's all around, cyclic and tail. The weight will make the heli more smooth if that's what you're into. If you want stick-bang-ability, then keep the weight as low as you can. Depends partly on what style you fly, or plan to fly.

-Fog

[CatchmyCorsair]

Is the Spartan relatively easy to setup? Does it require any computer access or can it be setup like every other gyro?

[epl]

It can be setup up by either stick programming or via USB. See Bob's videos on the Spartan.

[beans07]

I am using the jr 770 and 8900 on the 500 and my tre600n and it is an awesome combo. Great price, great piro consitancy and easy to setup. I also like that both the servo and the gyro casing are metal so maybe a little more durable in a bingle. I am also using FP 2170mah packs in series and moving them a little bit more forward takes away the cg tail heavy side.

[WiscHeli]

i use a 3400g and 770-3d gyro on 500 8900g/770-3d on 600N great gyro pain to adjust at start but yes once you have it set at rate mode and go to HH ... its great :P

[Finless]

Poor Jesse.... Everyone is recommending all kinds of stuff... This is typical because there are that many choices!

Jesse... There are a lot of choices out there! I will again say if you have a 401 USE IT. If your 3D skillz has gone beyond a 401 then pick one of the above.

I personally would not put a 611 with both sensor and AMP on this heli... Just a pain in the butt and I don't care that you can go into the diag menus and change the servo type! It's just too many components and wiring for this heli. Sorry Matt I know your going to use one because you have one but I bet you a few months from now you will change that! We shall see...

Tickitytoc is correct about the logictech gyros... they are NOT all that... They work good but they aren't there. The suck on piro rate in my opinion. The Spartan I can say myself is a good gyro. The JR 770..... Well just my opinion but OLD SCHOOL as you cant set the limits on each side of the pitch slider WTF? I ain't there man... This is a NEW gyro and they are doing limits like a 5 year old 401? Seems to me that is stupid in this day and age. I doubt really think it is any better than a 401 so I aint buying the hype!

Anyway man I am no Szabo flying wise but the 401 I am using is doing better than a 401 has ever done on any heli I have! Something about how the tail works on this heli the 401 performs WELL! I have NO complaints and I was talking with Andy Yu today and he agrees as he is also using a 401 and sees no reason to upgrade.

Anyway Jesse my point here is if you have a 401 USE IT... If your buying new.... well... you can see many choices above in this thread. As i said personally if I was buyng... I would get the DS790. Just my personal choice!

Bob

[torkboy]

My 611 with 9256 came out WAY tail heavy. My are as far forward as I can get them(Velcro strap touching negative wire), and it balances out...just barley.

I think im going to drop my 9257 in it like matt said, and pop into the secret menus and change it.

[WiscHeli]

BOB

do a vidio even not haveing Horizons OK on the JR770-3D it is perfect for the the 500 smal light and FAST :thumbup:

[huskynox]

BOB

do a vidio even not haveing Horizons OK on the JR770-3D it is perfect for the the 500 smal light and FAST :thumbup:

I agree Bob, do the video. Horizon Hobby is probably mad that you're buddies with Andy..... Boo Hoo! HAHA!

I would like to see what you think of it because of your quote: "the 770 features are kinda dated"

I'll give you one to "sample" if you promise to give it back :) I have a couple laying around.

They're actually quite simple to set up. It takes me about 5 minutes. The only weird thing is you have to get the mechanical setup very close for HH mode to lock in nice.

[erniefritz]

i've been a 611 guy , but since i tried this new Spartan gyro , Wow.... Holds every bit as good if not better than the 611 and has an even more constant piro rate even under high side loads like a knife edge drop....

[WiscHeli]

i pulled my hair out getting the 770 set in rate but once done its great ,,, its not plug and play like 401 but its better then the 611 once set