Now can repaint scenery too,....

[raptor3dpilot]

Yeah I'm not able to read any of the language posted on that site, but I figured since he was advertising a "free" simulator he wouldn't mind... I also figured that since his images are watermarked with his logo and we are not selling the files we create there wouldn't be a problem making them into phoenix sceneries.

[raptor3dpilot]

How about a quick tutorial on how to convert these sceneries for our own personal use? :D

[HFG]

Wow those scenes would be fantastic, iam sure if someone asked very nicely he would let us. Heck i will be willing to kick in a few bucks as a donation to the guy.

[devindh]

I use this,............................

Tools needed:

Pano2QTVR: http://gardengnomesoftware.com/pano2qtvr_download.php - free version works fine.
Irfanview / Paint.NET - any simple image manipulation software.
NVidia DDS tools: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/dds_utilities_legacy.html
To edit cube maps, I used DirectX Texture Tools from Microsoft. Dowload DirectX SDK.

Procedure:
- Download Reflex scenery. It will contain a 8160x3060 Jpg file.
- Load in Irfanview and select Image->Canvas size... Add 1020 pixels to the bottom.
- Save as jpg, high quality (90-95) to avoid image degradation.
- Start Pano2QTVR and create a new project.
- Goto Project tab, select equirectangular project type. Load scenery jpeg.
- Select Convert to Cubic button. Output as JPEG, set tile size to 2048. Set base name.


- You should now have 6 2048x2048 files.


Load them in irfanview to verify they are OK. You can touch them up at this point. The bottom file will have a large round hole.
- Use nvdxt -dxt1c -nomipmap -file <filename>.jpg to generate <filename>.dds textures.
- After backing up your original Phoenix directory, goto environments/arcticTundra
- replace arcticTundra[1-6].dds with your textures, adding 1 to the numbering.
- Go fly! Select arcticTundra in phoenix and test your new scenery. There are no obstacles or occlusion maps, so flat open sceneries work best.

Advanced:
- The light direction will probably be wrong. It's possible to shift/wrap the original to reorient it, matching the arcticTundra sun direction with the scenery.

- Phoenix works with 4096x4096 highres textures, at least on my graphics cards. I haven't found any very high resolution sceneries (16384x8192) on the net. Loading times also go up, but framerate seems unaffected.
- Previews are simple, just crop/scale and compress to dds. 1024x1024 for full, 64x64 for small.
- To generate proper reflection maps, there is a txt file in the phoenix dir:

+X = 1 -> flip H
-X = 3 -> flip H
+Y = 5 -> rotate 90 CW, flip H
-Y = 6 -> rotate 90 CCW, flip H
+Z = 2 -> flip H
-Z = 4 -> flip H

Use e.g. irfanview to flip and rotate the cube faces before loading the into dxtex.exe.

I tried scaling the reflection map to 512x512 cubemap, with mipmapping using dxt1c compression, no problem. Phoenix originally uses 128x128 RGB textures instead, but is flexible.

// CyCrow

- You should now have 6 2048x2048 files. - DL heli-x scenery,. and you have 6 2048x2048 JPEG images to convert it like Cycrow post above, but you need to flip horizontal all of them. and this,...

;heli-x scenery import reference --- phoenix jpg source dds scenery

???_front.jpg ---- rename it to ??1.jpg
???_left.jpg ---- rename it to ??2.jpg
???_back.jpg ---- rename it to ??3.jpg
???_right.jpg ---- rename it to ??4.jpg
???_top.jpg ---- rename it to ??5.jpg
???_bottom.jpg ---- rename it to ??6.jpg

continued with "- Use nvdxt -dxt1c -nomipmap -file <filename>.jpg to generate <filename>.dds textures. ........." like Cycrow explained to us above.

Cheers.

[doeni]

Michael is a real nice guy, just give him a email and a quick ask if you can use it, can't imagine he would say no, especially because the sim is free too..

greetings daniel

[seaky]

raptor3dpilot,

I've ported some HELIX panorama photoes to PhoenixRC and I've renamed seakymap01 to LasVegas scene.

And new scenes links are
Gaushorner.zip shrunklink.com/aiud
strandStOr.zip shrunklink.com/aiug
LasVegasNv.zip shrunklink.com/aiue
SchneeHarold.zip http://shrunklink.com/aiuf

But becaus of copyright I'll delete it soon.

Best regards,
Seaky

[HFG]

cool new scenery. The sky tile in schneeharold is wrong tho :) If the preview jpgs are resized can they can be converted to dds and used in phoenix ?

[seaky]

cool new scenery. The sky tile in schneeharold is wrong tho :) If the preview jpgs are resized can they can be converted to dds and used in phoenix ?
Thank you I've fixed sky and preview problem in sh and add correct preview to Gaushorner!

Just download again these zips. Have fun

bye,
seaky

[HFG]

If you dont have a preference i would love to see Wiese, Abendstimmung, Wohngebiet, Baggersee, or Terminal (not in any particular order).

[raptor3dpilot]

LMAO HFG! Yeah thanks guys so much!!!

[raptor3dpilot]

I use this,............................

I was afraid you would say that... :D :D

[raptor3dpilot]

thanks for hosting the files and letting us DL them. One thing I like about the add-on sceneries is how you don't run into the objects... your aircraft stays infront of the scenery and you have alot more room rather than hitting trees ect.

[HFG]

Looks easy enough to edit it now that you folks have done the hard work. Trying to do anything but repaint is trying. I wanted to replace the canopy on the 450se with the v2 canopy. I took a photo of it then used corel to resize and rotate the image into place. The problem is that any uncovered space from before will show up as white in the sim and the 450se doesn't use a full canopy on the left side just a section which is impossible to line up.

[devindh]

I was afraid you would say that... :D :D

Sorry, ................. Any one emailed to the author, Michael??

Please note the following EULA:

Endbenutzer-Lizenzvereinbarung für diese HELI-X-Szenerie (EULA) End-user license agreement for these HELI-X scenery (EULA)

Allgemeine Nutzungsbedingungen: General Terms:

Diese Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen dürfen ausschließlich nur für private Zwecke verwendet werden. This flight simulator extensions may be used only for private purposes.
Diese Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen sind nicht 'public domain'. This flight simulator extensions are not 'public domain'. Es ist ohne meine ausdrückliche und schriftliche Genehmigung verboten, sie auf CD oder anderen Datenträgern oder in jeglicher Form über das Internet anzubieten oder zu verteilen. It is without my express written permission is prohibited them to CD or other media or in any form over the Internet or distribute.
Es ist nicht erlaubt Dateien aus diesem Paket, einzeln oder in Gruppen anzubieten oder zu verteilen. It is not allowed files from this package, individually or in groups or to distribute. Es ist ebenfalls nicht erlaubt, ohne meine ausdrückliche und schriftliche Genehmigung, Modifikationen dieser Dateien anzubieten oder zu verteilen. It is also not allowed, without my express written consent, modifications of these files, or offer to distribute.
Die einzigen legalen Quellen dieser Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen sind diese Webseite und Webseiten, die von mir ausdrücklich autorisiert wurden. The only legitimate sources of this flight simulator, these extensions and web site that I have expressly authorized.

Kommerzielle Nutzung: Commercial use:

Kommerzielle Nutzung - in jeglicher Form - dieser Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen ist verboten. Commercial use - in any form - this flight simulator extensions is prohibited. Wenn eine oder mehrere dieser Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen oder ein Teil davon kostenfrei in Verbindung mit anderen kommerziell verkauften Dingen oder als kostenfreier Download in Verbindung mit kommerziellen Webseiten oder irgendeiner kommerziellen Aktivität angeboten werden, ist das ebenfalls kommerzielle Nutzung im oben genannten Sinn und damit ebenfalls verboten. If one or more of these flight simulator or a part of it free of charge in conjunction with other things or sold commercially as a free download in conjunction with commercial websites or any commercial activity offered, it is also commercial use in the above sense, and thus also prohibited.
Ausnahmen davon sind nur mit meiner ausdrücklichen und schriftlichen Genehmigung erlaubt. Exceptions are only with my explicit and written consent.

Haftungsausschluss: Disclaimer:

Die Nutzung dieser Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen geschieht auf eigene Verantwortung. The use of this flight simulator extensions at their own risk. Die Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen selbst enthalten keinen ausführbaren Programmcode, sondern nur Bildmaterial und Parameter. The flight simulator extensions themselves do not contain executable code, but only images and parameters. Dennoch übernehme ich für etwaige Schäden an Hard- oder Software des Nutzers, die sich im Zusammenhang mit diesen Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen oder deren Installationsprozedur ergeben könnten, keinerlei Verantwortung. Nevertheless, I for any damage to hardware or software from the user, which is associated with the flight simulator extensions or its installation procedure might no responsibility. Die Haftung in jeglicher Form ist ausgeschlossen. The liability in any form is excluded.

[devindh]

Looks easy enough to edit it now that you folks have done the hard work. Trying to do anything but repaint is trying. I wanted to replace the canopy on the 450se with the v2 canopy. I took a photo of it then used corel to resize and rotate the image into place. The problem is that any uncovered space from before will show up as white in the sim and the 450se doesn't use a full canopy on the left side just a section which is impossible to line up.

Sorry HFG, not to break the threads here, see http://www.helifreak.com/showpost.php?p=528623&postcount=65

Cheers.

[devindh]

Hi all.

FYI, using phoenix artictundra based *.map file make ground roughness of your convert/import scenery like ice thing. I'm using dessertmesa based *map file to get something rough like grass field.

Cheers.

[raptor3dpilot]

Sorry, ................. Any one emailed to the author, Michael??

Please note the following EULA:

Endbenutzer-Lizenzvereinbarung für diese HELI-X-Szenerie (EULA) End-user license agreement for these HELI-X scenery (EULA)

Allgemeine Nutzungsbedingungen: General Terms:

Diese Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen dürfen ausschließlich nur für private Zwecke verwendet werden. This flight simulator extensions may be used only for private purposes.
Diese Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen sind nicht 'public domain'. This flight simulator extensions are not 'public domain'. Es ist ohne meine ausdrückliche und schriftliche Genehmigung verboten, sie auf CD oder anderen Datenträgern oder in jeglicher Form über das Internet anzubieten oder zu verteilen. It is without my express written permission is prohibited them to CD or other media or in any form over the Internet or distribute.
Es ist nicht erlaubt Dateien aus diesem Paket, einzeln oder in Gruppen anzubieten oder zu verteilen. It is not allowed files from this package, individually or in groups or to distribute. Es ist ebenfalls nicht erlaubt, ohne meine ausdrückliche und schriftliche Genehmigung, Modifikationen dieser Dateien anzubieten oder zu verteilen. It is also not allowed, without my express written consent, modifications of these files, or offer to distribute.
Die einzigen legalen Quellen dieser Flugsimulator-Erweiterungen sind diese Webseite und Webseiten, die von mir ausdrücklich autorisiert wurden. The only legitimate sources of this flight simulator, these extensions and web site that I have expressly authorized.


So what I gather is that we may use/share the sceneries as long as we write him and ask for permission? If one of us emails him and gets the okay, we will be able to share all of the sceneries. Correct?

Sounds like worth asking if you ask me. :D :D
I don't want to bury him with emails so I will go ahead and be the one to ask for permission to use the files.
Wish us luck! :D :D

[devindh]

So what I gather is that we may use/share the sceneries as long as we write him and ask for permission? If one of us emails him and gets the okay, we will be able to share all of the sceneries. Correct?

Sounds like worth asking if you ask me. :D :D
I don't want to bury him with emails so I will go ahead and be the one to ask for permission to use the files.
Wish us luck! :D :D

Thanks, and yes, be the one for all of us.:D :D

Regards.

[dna001]

Any one tyred this free sim yet
Looks good but I cant get it to work with my phoenix cable :-(

http://www.heli-x.net/index_e.shtml

[raptor3dpilot]

Mr. Bendschneider,

I am writing you to ask permission to use your panoramic photographs from http://www.szenerien.de/HELI-X-Szenerien/ for personal use (no profit) and to be able to share edited sceneries on www.helifreak.com (thread http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=57026&page=3 ). We have a couple of individuals (devindh, cycrow, seaky, gregwee) on www.helifreak.com that have the ability to edit the panoramic photographs into usable sceneries in Phoenix RC Simulator (www.phoenix-sim.com) . These files will be hosted by individuals and available for members on the forum to download and use for personal use using Phoenix Simulator.

If you have any objections or concerns please feel free to contact me.

Thank you very much for your time and your incredible panoramic photographs.

Jason Grady
Helifreak ID: Raptor3dPilot

Okay here is the email I came up with... I haven't sent it yet because I wanted your guys input first to make sure the intentions were correct. Say the word and I'll hit send. :D

[raptor3dpilot]

I went ahead and sent out the email... we'll see on the responce! :D

[devindh]

Any one tyred this free sim yet
Looks good but I cant get it to work with my phoenix cable :-(

http://www.heli-x.net/index_e.shtml

Use any usb device TX,... or use mic cable - PPM - with PPjoy,.....



I went ahead and sent out the email... we'll see on the responce! :D


Thanks Jason. Will wait from now,...

[gregwee]

I had a problem trying to log in to Helifreak for the last week, so I couldn't even post or replied to PMs.. Anyway, the problem seems to have been solved as of today. :)

I moved the two sceneries to another server, but I can't seem to edit my previous post, so here are the new links:

Click here (http://shrunklink.com/aiwg) for the "Elmshorner Modellbau Club eV" scene from Reflex.

Click here (http://shrunklink.com/aiwh) for the Free Flight scene with the HF logo on the sign board. :lol:

[raptor3dpilot]

Hi Jason,

thank you for your request and interest in my sceneries. Since they and many others have been converted before by other people into many other formats, e.g. G3.5 AFPD, RAS and FMS, there would not be any obstacle doing this into phoenix-format.
But there could be a difference. First of all it has to be cleared if the scenery-import to phoenix is compromising civil laws.
My english is not very good, but I hope, you understand what I want to express. Importing sceneries is not a feature of Phoenix by now. If you import a scenery you might change the program-code itself. Did you find some sentences or terms of use in the LICENSE of Phoenix which refer to this? I don't want to get into troubles.
I once had created a Bad Oldesloe-scenery for Phoenix and they made the crash-objects. It was a long period of evaluation and many versions had to be exchanged before I was content with the result.
In the meantime I am in contact with Phoenix to sell my sceneries.
Therefore I hope you understand why I am hesitating to give you my consense at this moment.
If you can prove that no infringement to civil rights is done by importing homemade sceneries, then there should not be any reason not to allow this.

Best Regards

Harald Bendschneider

Not looking to good fellas as far as sharing the files. I'm not sure where to find the EULA (End Users Licence Agreement). I only thing that Phoenix would have a problem if they decided to sell the new sceneries as an add-on to the original. In the meantime I am in contact with Phoenix to sell my sceneries. this is at least good news though.

What are your guys thoughts on contacting Phoenix and asking about using outside sceneries during Phoenix sessions? I don't want to disrespect Phoenix in anyway because I truely enjoy the simulator and especially like the fact that they have offered all updates and new models free of charge. To me, this makes this sim #1. :D

[devindh]

Devin DH to PhoenixRC
show details 12/21/07


I cant wait, here attachment for Trex 600 nitro red - colorscheme i made, (posting that in helifreak too, see http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=54043 )

Cheers, i'm not align man, but i dreamed something,....

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On 12/19/07, PhoenixRC Support <support@phoenix-sim.com> wrote:
Hi Devin

Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions.

We are intending to create a swap site for variants, recordings and eventually new paint schemes.

Reagrding the repainting the models, we are currently working very hard on a painting tool whch will allow you to repaint any Phoenix model in full 3D - more information on this will be on our website in the near future.

Best Regards

PhoenixRC Support

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Hi, greatest sim i've ever had.

If you want take some wish list from me, please, give us some swap pages to share with other the variants that we have like i do in helifreak.com, http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=53814 .

For the paint scheme, i think its not to difficult to us, your user that have knowledge, ( i make some in RF g3.5 sim, too), but i found that your BMP (bitmap file) encrpyted/or not standar to us.

I know, like in AFPD sim, they make some TMT files that compatible with their 3D engine, but they have a small utility to import/export it to a regular bitmap file.

Can you release this utility first??? cause for beta release "aircraft development editor" can take to much time there??


Sorry for my bad english, Regards.

Devin, Indonesia.
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I done it. But with this mail, they get something news that something done here in HF, new scenery, new colorscheme, and all about swap page that posting some variant to download.

No response yet after last mail in 12/21/07.


Regards.