V-bar How complicated !

[markjj]

Hi all,

Been following this forum since ircha( who hasn't ! ) and I'm gonna come on board with a 6003d, the plan was to also go v-bar from the off and put together a nice machine after letting some of you do the beta testing LOL, from what I've seen the frames are way stronger than the l14 so no problem there, possible tail static and watch the mesh- all in all no problem.

My only real problem is the v-bar, and this isn't a plug and play system- now I'm up for some tinkering and the like but I also like to fly.

So how complicated is this system to get right, I've followed the forum at v-bar and a lot of posts do seem to want an easier understanding of the software. I don't have a phd in bell/hiller mixing characteristics or the language used. Has anyone got this working to 90% from the off. It's always good to learn what dose what on the heli but this software dose seem rather daunting.

If I'm gonna go for it, it's got to off at the deep end- no flying a fly-bar first then up-grading-just a waste of money and time IMHO.

Has anyone got one working pretty good- would it be 'cheating' to just copy everything-servos/motor/esc/v-bar.



So the main point is; is the v-bar worth the time and effort? anyone going back to fly-bared?



One other question please, I've been using a BEC for the last few years and love them, no problems whatsoever, will the WR 5a power the v-bar I'd just hate to go back to 2cell flightpacks. I'm using xps which has a lower power need than the spktrum rx so no brownout issues.

Many thanks.

[jamesotron99]

Hi Mark.

I'm using a UBEC HV 6V on my machine and it seems to work perfectly, I've not had any problems with glitching or "brown outs". That said, maybe I'm not pushing it hard enough? :)

The vbar is pretty complicated to get working right, but I think that as long as you're reasonably intelligent (and you fly helis, right, so no problems there) then with the help of those on the forum or even better local pilots who've gone through it before you can get the machine singing.

If you're not that confident then I would suggest going with the flybarred version, which still flies amazingly well and switch to the vbar once you've got some more tinkering time up your sleeve.

Good luck!

[bladebraker]

Im still using the setup that came on the V-Bar disk. It flys so good with that setup I have not got around to tweeking it. I say go flybarless you wont bee sorry.

[www.vstabi.de]

Have you ever had a look at the VBar wiki?

www.vstabi.de/wiki

All parameters and other things are explained there.

And at all ... do your basic setups, post at the vbar forum, attach your setup and we will see ...

[th3tick]

I jumped into V-Bar a little fast myself, but in the end, through the help of RJohn here, and Rainer of the VStabi.de site, got a good working config. If you're OK with it taking some tinkering, don't sweat it.

IMHO, the things are defined on the wiki, but not clearly enough for me to get a good idea what effect changing it will have. Those definitions need a lot of work.

I'm sitting here on the cusp of getting a Logo 600 as well, and still waffling a bit whether to get another V-Bar or not. Given how incredibly well my 500 is flying right now, I'm leaning towards the V-Bar.

Don't forget the one other thing you get with flybarless is efficiency, which can buy you longer flights.

John

[markjj]

Many thanks chaps, spent some time today searching about and I'm sold.

Time now to find the best deal...

[Flybar-less]

Vstabi has a learning curve, but once you've been through it, there is less maintainence and parts. This leads to quicker build times or rebuild times, and very quick setup on new machines. The best is you don't need new or different parts to change setups, and you can switch between up to 4 different setups. :thumbup: