RD6000 on a trex se v1?

[HeloMech]

Can I use my RD6000 on a trex se v1?

I read in a post here about rd6000 firmware upgrades...

should I just hold out, build the trex and pick up a dx7?

[LAMAR COOLEY]

HeloMech
Yes, you sure can.
I have one set up on my RD6000.
As well as a Rap. 50
AND I'm useing "PPM/FM" with no problems what so ever.
Don't let that "BULL HOCKY" people spread about FM not being reliable in heli set ups mislead you.
If you need any pointers about the menu and the swash selection PM me.
Regards

[cbcelectech]

Hey, got a problem you might be able to help with, since you have a RD6000. How do you adjust the collective range on a Trex 450? I can not find a menu specifically for that purpose, even though the EPA on the pitch channel seems to do the trick. I have read all over not to use electronics to adjust travels, yet I see no way to adjust it otherwise. Thanks for any help you can give

Derrick

[LAMAR COOLEY]

cbcelectech
O.K. Hear you go. These are my settings for the Trex 450 SE on the RD6000.
Go to "etc" on the far right at opening screen.
Make sure you have set the model select to "heli" in " TYP "
Make sure you have turned "off " basic menu; that will put into advanced selections.
Here is what I have in advanced menu.
M - SL = ( model selected= number )
NAM = ( model name )
C - mix 1 mas. = el.
C - mix 1 slv, = el.
E = E @ 1 = 0
C - mix 2 mas. = el.
C - mix 2 slv = el.
E = E @ 2 = 0
STW = " ACT " ( stop watch ;activated )
INT = " ACT " ( total radio on time )
STEP = 1 ( trim step ) ( how much movement you get with each trim lever "beep " or "Step "
TYP = ( model type; aircraft or heli )
SW - R = NOR ( this is switch reverse; mix switches; " Up " or " Down " to activate )
CPY ( Copy ) ( copy one model's settings to another model )
RST (Reset ) ( resets the displayed model number back to factory default settings )
MOD = PP ( I'm useing Airtronics 7 channel receiver here ) ( PPM/FM )
CLK = " ACT " ( this is the " beeping " sound you hear when activating any push buttons )
B-F-S " INH " ( inhibite ) ( battery failsafe; only used when useing a "PCM" receiver )
DTM = " ACT " ( Activate ) ( digital trim memory; retains your trim settings )
SWH = CP3b ( Swash Type )( looking from rear to front; pitch on left; ael. on right and ele. behind main shaft )
BASIC = " OFF "
Also Gyro gain at channel 5 ( G )
Pitch will be channel 6 ( P - F )
I have these setting for the throttle for the Aligh Speed control;
TRIM = 0 ( all )
REV = NOR
CNT = 0 ( all )
EPA = low stick = 150 and high stick = 150 ( throttle and pitch )
Set you prefered throttle curves
T-Cut = 0
View the " FINLESS " Trex -450 set up video's for head set up.
All " trims " at 0 ; all "; " center's " at 0; all servo arms are parallel to servo's center line; swash plate is at center of travel on the main shaft with swash, wash-out arms, mixing levers; flybar cage; grips and paddles are level at mid throttle stick ( 50 % ) position.
Elevator; Aileron and rudder " EPA " ( end points ) at 100 ( up - down: left - right ).
Your Throttle and Pitch curve will be 0 to 100.
You will set your throttle at ; L = 0; 1 = 40; 2 = 50; 3 = 75; H = 100 ( 5 points " this is just an example for " normal " flight mode ) (I hover at mid stick; 50 % throttle @ + 5 degrees pitch )
You will set your pitch curve at; L = 46; 1 = INH; 2 = 69; 3= INH; H = 90 ( 5 points " this is
just an example for " normal " flight mode. (note: mid throttle stick ( 50 % ) should get you 0 degrees pitch with a -10 to + 10 total pitch range: low = 0 = - 10 degrees and high = 100 = + 10 degrees pitch
If I recall correctly I have ( - 3 degrees pitch @ L ) ( + 1 deg @ 1 ) ( + 5 deg. @ 2 ) ( + 7.5 @ 3 ) ( + 10 deg. @ H ) ( easy way is to " Inhibite " Point 1 and 3 ( no math ))
Also use a pitch guage if at all possible.
It's late and I'm seing ddoubble and trippple.
Time to quite for now.
I may have overlooked something.
I hope this is of some small help.
Let us know. O.K. ?
Regards :thumbup:

[cbcelectech]

a few questions.

Why do you have the throttle epa's set to 150?

What is your epa on your pitch channel?

I have read another thread that says the RD6000 uses the EPA's in swash mode like an EPA in normal (mechanical) mixing mode. This seems to make in impossible to cancel out swash interactions by adjusting individual servo EPA's.

[LAMAR COOLEY]

cbcelectech
1.) I have my throttle end points at 150 top and bottom because that seems to be the only
way " my " Align speed control would recognize the throttle channel.
However my throttle pitch curve has " 0 " at the bottom and " 100 " at the top in " normal flight " mode. The throttle will work within the 150 to 150 settings.
2.) The same holds true for the pitch end points ( 150 low - 150 high ) The pitch values you set in the pitch curve menu will work within the 150 settings.
What the 150 to 150 setting provides is the highest resoultion transmitted to your servos but they will be " working " in the " 0 to 100 " range. I have found that this has done away with any swash interactions. I might add; I'm useing Hitec HS-65HB servos all around ( 4 ).
3.) As to "adjusting" the " collective range ". Set your " normal flight " mode pitch curve to
" 50 " at point " 2 " in the curve and put your throttle/collective stick at the center of travel. Set your " High = H " point ( 5 ) at 100 and your " Low = L point ( 1 ) at " 0 ", inhibit Points " 1 and 3 " ( pressing "yes" and "no" at the same time will do this ).
Also you want "0" degrees of pitch with the "throttle/collective" stick at center of travel.
Select a servo horn that will be centered and parallel with the servo with the stick at center of travel. With this done move the stick to High and check which hole on the horn will match the link when you move the swash up to the top of travel " BY HAND " ( YOUR LINK IS NOT CONNECTED TO HORN AT THIS TIME ). Then do the same thing by moving your stick to low and see which hole on the horn matches your link. Ideally you want the same hole at high and low. You may have to turn your link or links a turn or two
to acheive this. This is where you will put the "ball" ( Note: the throttle takes care of it's self in this case , being electric , through the "esc". I certainly cannot explain it as well as "MR. FINLESS " in his Trex 450 SE video's.
I'v probably screwed this up in some way, so pardon me . I'm a math teacher and "SCUBA" instructor among other things. So if you have any questions along those lines. I may do better.
I hope this is of some small help.
Regards :thumbup:

[twinkle]

cbcelectech
O.K. Hear you go. These are my settings for the Trex 450 SE on the RD6000.
Go to "etc" on the far right at opening screen.
Make sure you have set the model select to "heli" in " TYP "
Make sure you have turned "off " basic menu; that will put into advanced selections.
Here is what I have in advanced menu.
M - SL = ( model selected= number )
NAM = ( model name )
C - mix 1 mas. = el.
C - mix 1 slv, = el.
E = E @ 1 = 0
C - mix 2 mas. = el.
C - mix 2 slv = el.
E = E @ 2 = 0
STW = " ACT " ( stop watch ;activated )
INT = " ACT " ( total radio on time )
STEP = 1 ( trim step ) ( how much movement you get with each trim lever "beep " or "Step "
TYP = ( model type; aircraft or heli )
SW - R = NOR ( this is switch reverse; mix switches; " Up " or " Down " to activate )
CPY ( Copy ) ( copy one model's settings to another model )
RST (Reset ) ( resets the displayed model number back to factory default settings )
MOD = PP ( I'm useing Airtronics 7 channel receiver here ) ( PPM/FM )
CLK = " ACT " ( this is the " beeping " sound you hear when activating any push buttons )
B-F-S " INH " ( inhibite ) ( battery failsafe; only used when useing a "PCM" receiver )
DTM = " ACT " ( Activate ) ( digital trim memory; retains your trim settings )
SWH = CP3b ( Swash Type )( looking from rear to front; pitch on left; ael. on right and ele. behind main shaft )
BASIC = " OFF "
Also Gyro gain at channel 5 ( G )
Pitch will be channel 6 ( P - F )
I have these setting for the throttle for the Aligh Speed control;
TRIM = 0 ( all )
REV = NOR
CNT = 0 ( all )
EPA = low stick = 150 and high stick = 150 ( throttle and pitch )
Set you prefered throttle curves
T-Cut = 0
View the " FINLESS " Trex -450 set up video's for head set up.
All " trims " at 0 ; all "; " center's " at 0; all servo arms are parallel to servo's center line; swash plate is at center of travel on the main shaft with swash, wash-out arms, mixing levers; flybar cage; grips and paddles are level at mid throttle stick ( 50 % ) position.
Elevator; Aileron and rudder " EPA " ( end points ) at 100 ( up - down: left - right ).
Your Throttle and Pitch curve will be 0 to 100.
You will set your throttle at ; L = 0; 1 = 40; 2 = 50; 3 = 75; H = 100 ( 5 points " this is just an example for " normal " flight mode ) (I hover at mid stick; 50 % throttle @ + 5 degrees pitch )
You will set your pitch curve at; L = 46; 1 = INH; 2 = 69; 3= INH; H = 90 ( 5 points " this is
just an example for " normal " flight mode. (note: mid throttle stick ( 50 % ) should get you 0 degrees pitch with a -10 to + 10 total pitch range: low = 0 = - 10 degrees and high = 100 = + 10 degrees pitch
If I recall correctly I have ( - 3 degrees pitch @ L ) ( + 1 deg @ 1 ) ( + 5 deg. @ 2 ) ( + 7.5 @ 3 ) ( + 10 deg. @ H ) ( easy way is to " Inhibite " Point 1 and 3 ( no math ))
Also use a pitch guage if at all possible.
It's late and I'm seing ddoubble and trippple.
Time to quite for now.
I may have overlooked something.
I hope this is of some small help.
Let us know. O.K. ?
Regards :thumbup:
hi lc,will this menu do for setting my rd8000,evrything seems to be for futaba or spektrum,this came with my rtf 450s,and i dont want to buy another one,any help appreciated,bob

[LAMAR COOLEY]

twinkle,
These settings will work with the RD8000 and RD6000.
The RD8000 is the same radio as the RD6000.
The only differance is the RD8000 has 10 model memory and can handle 8 channels.
Where as the RD6000 only has 4 model memory and 6 channel capability
However, you may have to do some tweeking with the settings depending on which servos you are useing. Do not adjust the "Center" and "Trim".
You want the settings at "0" when you do your setup.
The pitch values may vary some depending on the distance your linkage is from the servo screw. Use a pitch guage to setup your five point pitch curve.
I hope this is of some small help.
Regards