rctek sjm 325 where r u

[DavidH]

Jim,
This forum is international. Neo is in the UK. The internet has made it a global market. So most are going to buy from all over the world. I have not seen any name calling in this thread. Just a discussion. As for editing the thread. We don't edit content from threads unless there is reason such as profanity.
As for being a cut throat business. The hobby business has always been that way when it comes to some of the manufactuers in the orient. They will cut a deal with one person and tell them it is exclusive, then have another person on the phone giving them the same deal. This has been going one for last several years. Just do a search on the web and you will find several helis, some with same name, some with different. But they will all be the same. All that concerns the manufactuers is that unload the products they have produced.
In a sense it is a good thing for the consumers, because they get great deals some time on items. Been that way for a few years.

David

[neo187i]

I wasn't *****in to anyone I was mearly giving my views.The way I see it with any new product there is always gonna be opinions on both sides of the fence.The picture I took of the head was just after the build before I had gone through the ccpm setup so it was basicly how it came out of the box.Oh and just a little something tou know that out the box video on youtube the box mine came in was exactly the same and even the boom was zip tied in the same place don't you think that's a bit of a coincidence anyway as soon as my batterys arrive I will post my first flight rundown.thanks

[blade strike]

I wasn't *****in to anyone I was mearly giving my views.The way I see it with any new product there is always gonna be opinions on both sides of the fence.The picture I took of the head was just after the build before I had gone through the ccpm setup so it was basicly how it came out of the box.Oh and just a little something tou know that out the box video on youtube the box mine came in was exactly the same and even the boom was zip tied in the same place don't you think that's a bit of a coincidence anyway as soon as my batterys arrive I will post my first flight rundown.thanks


Like I said I test for sjm I should know what version you got.. You got a sjm400 tri tail not the production tail, that should be more than proof to you and dave.

Anyways you both seem to know more than people that have ties to sjm, but lets just keep it real. It does seem that you are trying to justify what you bought and not looking at the facts.

I could care less where you bought the heli from, what I do care about is both of you saying its the same when that is so far from the truth.

The only reason why I even posted in the thread was to try to help this new heli user, neo.

Well neo when you have issue on setting up that head maybe david can help ya, I will tell you this, it's no rex head :wink:

@ davidH

please dont respond to me since I will not post again in this thread. Let this thread get back on topic.

if anyone else needs setup tips just pm me!

NO BULL HERE:roll:

[neo187i]

You are deluded blade strike ita sjm 325 the one rc-tek is a sjm 325 they both were made by the same company they both have sjm stickers,they both have the same parts,I am in the process of fitting the new upgraded tail which will make it identical to the rc-tek one.Just because sjm changed something during design and testing doesn,t make it diffrent the basic build of the heli is still the same.If ford designed a car and put it in to production and then decided to put a spoiler on the back to help the aerodynamics they wouldn't stand there and say its a totally diffrent car would they get a life mate.thanks

[neo187i]

oh and onother thing I have built the heli I have setup the ccpm why would I need help from you I'm sure there are plenty of freakers who are just intrested in the performance and setup of the sjm 325 not in tryin to convince everybody that rc-tek are the only one's who have the proper sjm.I am quite happy with the service of flying hobby and they have a full spares list so I don't need rc-tek for anything.thanks

[WayneBrown]

Scott,
Do not use the 'Report Post' button to object to differing opinions and to complain about someone calling on you to support your claims.
I for one have been watching this thread, and don't see where anyone has said anything out of line.

[blade strike]

You are deluded blade strike ita sjm 325 the one rc-tek is a sjm 325 they both were made by the same company they both have sjm stickers,they both have the same parts,I am in the process of fitting the new upgraded tail which will make it identical to the rc-tek one.Just because sjm changed something during design and testing doesn,t make it diffrent the basic build of the heli is still the same.If ford designed a car and put it in to production and then decided to put a spoiler on the back to help the aerodynamics they wouldn't stand there and say its a totally diffrent car would they get a life mate.thanks


ok neo who is deluded?

Where did I say sjm didnt make yours? Its a just pre-production, can you say that word???? If it was not why would you have to buy an UPGRADED TAIL? Its so funny how you claim to know this and know that BUT then you even prove my point by saying "I am in the process of fitting the new upgraded tail":shock::lol:

2nd

where did I try to say buy from rc-tek???? Didnt I say I dont care where you buy it from? Man can you read?

dont bother even responding since you will dig yourself deeper and I will not respond.

@Wayne

The funny thing is he already did back up his claims and this is just starting to become a bashing thread. He posted pics and facts. Maybe people should read the whole thread and stop this nonsense.

It all comes down too, if you can read and look at pictures and have an understanding for the changes it will be very clear to those that are not clouded. No one EVER said that sjm didnt make FH version, hell they made their aplus heli.

I also really dont know why scott reported, I love to see post where people show they know nothing on a subject, it just discredits them.


I wont beat this dead horse anymore!.

Now can the rest of us talk about this killer bird and get back on topic!:thumbup:

[DavidH]

Scott_RC-TEK ( mailto:scott@rc-tek.com ) has reported this post:


http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?p=532554#post532554

This is part of this thread:
rctek sjm 325 where r u
http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=57840

This is the reason that the user gave:
This new member (and DavidH) would rather degrade, argue with, and attack people who are simply trying to help. I will no longer reply/post in this thread, but their being rude on a continious basis to people who just happen to support us our products is not justified. This guy's comments borderline on a personal attack as well against bladestrike who knows a little more about the topic at hand than any of these guys. Thank you, Scott Booth

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Who has degraded or attacked anyone? Giving opinions is part of a forum operation.
I also have not seen where anyone has gotten out of line.

David

[neo187i]

man I ain't gonna bother argueing with you,you are only intrested in the rc-tek way I'm glad I didn't buy off rc-tek cos now I don't have to be stuck listening to yours and scotts nonsense whats the bet rc-tek have the same kit as me and just changed the tail so they could tell every one its the pro model.Well I've finished fitting the tail and now mine is a pro model.

[neo187i]

hey freakers they are selling them on flyingkit.com as well for $275 but I suppose thats a pre production model as well lol

[WayneBrown]

The funny thing is he already did back up his claims and this is just starting to become a bashing thread. He posted pics and facts. <snip>

It all comes down too, if you can read and look at pictures and have an understanding for the changes it will be very clear to those that are not clouded.


Forgive me, I saw the pics, and honestly can not tell the difference between the *pre-production* model from another source, and the one rc-tek offers with the single exception of the tail. I think the design itself is interesting, and am not against you, Scott, or Rc-Tek.
You seem to be emotionally passionate about this thread, and in most instances thats a good thing, in this case both you and Scott appear to be taking offense, and it looks questionable from the outside.
Where David is likely concerned is that you choose to promote your product line here, but refuse to entertain the notion of buying advertising space. Answers to questions seem to be cryptic, and refer to advertising data, not a straight-forward answer.
Honestly I would like to see you folks advertise here, and have a support forum going, but the choice is yours to make.

[blade strike]

ok people I do think neo has shown how old he really is:lol: :roll: Keep it up bro, its funny now!

remember fung(flying-hobby) visits these sites he knows what he sells and thats why he has not posted. Again ask yourself why would they have an upgraded tri-blade if these models were production unit.

SJM offers the pro with the standard 2 blade tail(sjm500tail) and the larger tri-blade WITH CF STANDARD.

how do I know this? well like I have said I test for them and give feedback. The small tri-blade will not give enough tail authority since it uses the small sjm400 tail blades.

This kid can keep avoiding the facts and keep telling himslef he still got a killer deal. When it fact he is using a sub par ESC and has to buy the UPGRADED tail.

Have fun!

[blade strike]

wayne

I am not part of rc-tek nor do I test for them, its been almost a year.


I will not let this kid try to play this game. The tail is the main change, if this does not prove that its a different kit then I guess Im in the clouds. read the post above to find out what version of production kits get what.

Thats like saying a t-rex se and sa are the same. The design is the same but CHEAPER PARTS are used on the SA.

Regarding advertising talk to Scott, I have a job as a network/system engineer for a city in Big Bear ca.

Bob knows(he even called looking for scott on my work cell) this and maybe you should check your facts before you call me out!

SIMPLE AS THAT

have a nice day!

[rcboosted]

Here's a post that is actually on topic, how is RCT's version getting more pitch? I read a few threads on how the plastic link is hitting parts in the head thus limiting the pitch travel. Has RCT resovled this? How about the travel on cyclic at full pitch? (degrees)

Is the the kit version exactly the same as the combo version minus the motor and esc? Are the 4pc tool set included now instead of the 3pc?

[neo187i]

blah blah ok maybe your right but who actually cares mine is the same spec as the pro now anyway and as for the esc it does the job.

[DavidH]

how do I know this? well like I have said I test for them and give feedback.

I am not part of rc-tek nor do I test for them, its been almost a year.

So which is it?

David

[blade strike]

So which is it?

David


well if you used your brain just a little you would think about. Testing for rc-tek got me in contact with sjm. They sent me a kit last fall and been testing for them since.

It odes seem helifreak has some mods that just want to start crap.

Like I said have a good day.

[DavidH]

Not starting any crap. Just making sure that everyones affiliations are out in the open.
We appreciate everyone's opinions.

David

[WayneBrown]

well if you used your brain just a little you would think about. Testing for rc-tek got me in contact with sjm. They sent me a kit last fall and been testing for them since.

It odes seem helifreak has some mods that just want to start crap.

Like I said have a good day.That is bordering on rude man..
Now I'll ask the same question, maybe you'll clarify it. Do you test for RCT? Or are you testing for another company that has a similar product line?
I guess if you test for the manufacturer thats one thing, but your postings read as if you test for RCT. Please clear the air on this topic, and we'll move on.

[neo187i]

if any one is starting crap its you blade strike maybe you should try calming down a bit they say its good for the soul lol

[blade strike]

wayne

I am not part of rc-tek nor do I test for them, its been almost a year.


ok last post since now people are saying I am rude. I will repeat myself one more time for you guys.

I haven't tested for rc-tek for almost a year. I helped them on their ss/diablo. I do SOME testing for SJM.

Now is that clear to everyone?

Not trying to be rude but I have NEVER seen a site that allows admins to post private messages and try to call people out when they dont have any idea.

No where did I hide my ties to rc-tek or sjm. Not once did I say buy something from rc-tek. So I dont see why you guys are trying to read something that is not there. That has been neos and dave's issue this whole time!

Even bob white knows my history with rc-tek, so maybe you 2 should talk to others before you call some one out and then call them rude.

Like I said have a very nice day!

[neo187i]

who is calling anybody out I never at any point this ain't the school playground is it all I wanna do is discuss this heli with people and share expiriences with it after all thats what these forums are all about.The only problem I have is you keep sayin I 've bought a pre production model so what its still a sjm 325 no matter which way you look at it.You can't compare it to the trex machines because the se is obviosly diffrent to the sa in regards to parts but if you upgraded a sa to se spec then wouldn't they be exactly the same then regardless of what kit they came in.thanks

[Scott_RC-TEK]

This is all I will say on this matter:

1. Neo personally attacked and was rude to Ken (blade strike) by saying:
"You are deluded..."
"get a life mate..."

2. Ken has not tested for or been a pilot of RC-TEK since last April (2007). At this time, he is an end user just like anyone else.

2. Ken does do preproduction testing/evaluation for the SJM on a case by case basis because of his previous affiliation with RC-TEK.

3. Posting a private message between myself and the forum mods is unprofessional and not warranted.

4. RC-TEK has been in discussion with HeliFreak administration for a while now regarding advertising and that process is ongoing, but with the conduct of DavidH in this and other threads that relate to RC-TEK and/or our legitimate customers, to be blunt and honest, I am not sure if being a paying supporter of this site is in our best interest.

It was never my intention or desire to win anyone over or degrade anyone for purchasing ANY other version of the SJM325 from ANY source. As I have said, we will still benefit on some level regardless and somehow we will survive if we lose an order or two because someone found a cheaper version of the helicopter available somewhere else overseas. In the coming days, we will take photos of the latest production units along with the obvious upgrades people get for the same or less money and then the customers can make their own decision. However, it would be appreciated if those who do know they did not get a current production unit would not claim otherwise as it only confuses the market and may lead a person who wants the latest unit down the wrong path that they may regret later.

I am not in this thread to sell or progress RC-TEK’s agenda as some may believe. If that is not obvious, then there is nothing left for me to say or do. Attacking me for doing the proper thing in filing a formal complaint for what I see is a thread full of unneeded drama and attacks is in itself a poor reflection of how this site is maintained and governed.

Regards,
Scott Booth

[WillJames]

That is NOT a PM that Harkey posted, it is what goes to all support staff, like 35 of us on the site when you do the REPORT THREAD option. Not a PM.

I am now trying to read through this, and I think Harkey is saying that people do not bash or attack RCTek and he is wondering what is up. This is a forum, people can say what they want here and be honest as long as it is respectful.

Not sure what Scott's point is I still need to read all my PM's/Email from being out of the office most of today.

[neo187i]

scott I would gladly admit I had a pre production model if I could see a diffrence from yours and mine but I can't.I now have the tail fitted what you are selling with yours so granted you are right you don't get the latest tail with my kit but as for saying you can get more pitch from yours is puzzling me how on earth are you saying the head is diffrent to mine as well thats why I said he was deluded.