What Nexy?

[Leehollingworth]

:? well ive had 6 - 7 flights now with my raptor 50 and can now hover tail in for 60 seconds or so quite easily. so i took off the training gear for the first time the other day and things improved even more, probably cos im concentrating more but when the wind gets under my heli and it shoots skyward its quite awkward to get it down again.
my pitch is set at -2 at bottom, 5 at mid and +10 at top so im thinking of adjusting for more negative pitch but how much????

id apprectiate your advice, is worth say -5 at bottom for normal flight and then set -10 for flight mode 1?

also it seems to take a while for the blades to spool up as increase the throttle (compared to the 3d vids ive seen) is this ok or could it be a clutch problem? what would i need to change the clutch or liner or both?
and how do i check?

i did hot start once at 50% throttle for 3-4 seconds before i killed it could this have caused the damage?

Thanks for reading my waffel and i hope you can help, i know you will

[WayneBrown]

Mechanically -10 is the norm. You can program the Tx for -5 for normal, for good, or for a few flights to get used to it.
I fly +10, 0 (mid) and -10 in all modes.

[Leehollingworth]

thanx wayne, id be glad to hear if anyone has any other views or comments on my clutch issue or no issue?

[WayneBrown]

The real test of your clutch should be from a hover. Hit full up, and see if the engine outruns the head, or bogs a bit. If it bogs, you should be okay.

[Ivan]

I would imagine the slow to spin up blades is probably coming from your combination of pitch and throttle. If you have -2 on the low end and 5 at mid stick, your throttle will be slow to respond. most of us at -2 pitch have close to half throttle in. if your pitch is -10 at idle and 0 at mid stick, with a 0, 50, 100 throttle curve (it wouldn't be that exactly in real life, but is a good arbitrary number) then at 0 pitch you can sit there and let your blades spin up. at -2, 5, 10 pitch with a 0, 50, 100 throttle curve, you are only going to be at, say 10% power at 0 pitch. So, you can bump your 1/4 stick power up to compensate, but you will overspeed when you start working decents. Thus, it is a trade off. when you get to doing aerobatics, with a symetrical pitch curve, it will all come together. Just take it easy, and don't compare yourself to the pros, they are pushing the machine's envelpoe, and whgen you are learning, you really need to concentrate on expanding your own envelope as a pilot. A raptor 50 will be ready for the fancy stuff when you are. :mrgreen:

[WayneBrown]

no pushing here...except to learn!
I personally have my machine setup per Clintstones' direction, basically just a little less travel in all aspects than his personal setup.
The point I am attempting to make is that when all mechanical setups are the same, programming to a lessor performance machine still gives you the ability to change your setup without having to move links, shorten rods, etc. in effect, making it faster to increase the performance as you learn.
Plus, it helps to learn the 'right' setup and persons you turn to for help don't waste time getting the setup corrected. It allows for a duplicatable setup after crash repairs too. :)
I have found it is easier to adapt myself to a properly setup machine than to adapt to a screwy setup.

[Ivan]

I agree with you on that. a good "square" mechanical setup is very important, and the rest can be done in the transmitter. if the mechanical pitch curve is -12 0 12, then it is very easy to adjust the points to your liking. My main point is that some times beginners get to comparing them selves to the pros, and it can get them in trouble. I have no boubt that your, my, or Curtis's heli would be just fine for a raw beginner with a few tweaks to the transmitter along the lines of ptich curves, throttle curves and cyclic rates, because we all have a good "square" setup already.

I also want to stress your point about getting the right person to help out. As a beginner, you need to find some one that will not only hoelp you set your heli up, but explain all the small rudimentary and intricate details about each step. It is my theory, that if one knows the "whys" the "hows" will be self explainatory.