Stay away from the HBK 2

[DierWolf]

Who said Telebee Gyro wasnt good? its alot better the Esky HH thats for sure

[Kurlee]

Mine flies great. I purchased the barebones and used my own electronics and I could not be happier. In fact, I like it so much, that I may sell one of my T-Rex's and build another King.
Keven

[painklr8510]

Hello all new to this board I have to say I havn't had the best of luck with my HBking2 call it bad luck or lack of skill but i seem to be jinxed when it comes to this heli

[nuttcaze]

I've had great luck with my HBK II, its actually my favorite heli to fly, I flew mine stock till the motor died, but if you're buying one of these and don't know that they come with bad motors then thats your fault for not researching about the heli, After I did upgrade the motor I bought the 43t pulley upgrade to give my tail more power and it was only $16, I stuck the gyro on only after someone convinced me it'd be better, holy crap its freakin awesome, also found out that my stock rate gyro was indeed broken from the time I got it, had been flying the whole time with a non-working gyro, not that the esky rate gyros do work much but the gyro wasn't completely neccesary as I was already used to flying it the was it was (just basic flight, no 3D or anything close) other then that its completely stock, its only been crashed once in the 40 some flights I've put on it.

[nas_matko]

Hey guys, replace the HB king2's tail rotor with the trex 450 SA tail rotor grips and hub(dual bearings.
As far as I am aware Trex tail is few mm wider than HBK2. How did you attached Trex tail rotor onto it? Any tips?

[nas_matko]

had been flying the whole time with a non-working gyro, not that the esky rate gyros do work much but the gyro wasn't completely neccesary
You are pretty good to be able to fly without gyro. My stock gyro gave up just recently and is responding to only clockwise movement not counterclockwse and I almost crashed as heli started to spin violently.

[nuttcaze]

its just the benefits of learning to fly on the HBFP, maybe the twichyest heli avaialbe, and I love it :thumbup: really does make the transition to CPs very easy :YeaBaby:

[Gene465]

After mastering the CX2 and then getting the CP Pro, I ditched the Pro and got the HBK2 and love it! Way better than any of the tail motored 300s, slightly larger and flys way better out of the Box! I have 2 T-Rexs and this little bird is my favorite! I am using the 3100 brushless motor and 43T tail gear along with the T-Rex tail blades and skids and for a Gyro I am using a Telebee. Great little bird it's all in the set-up!

[nuttcaze]

same setup I have on mine (except for the skids) love it, but I just ordered a Danlion 3500 from Rusty at Castlerock hobbies, can't wait to try it, also have a AR6100e for it to go with my new DX6i, my Belt CP already loves its AR6100e :woot

[Darthdrk]

Kinda funny post. Brings back a memory when I got my first heli. 1st of all i couldnt fly a lick (But lied to myself) I crashed and crashed blamed everything on the product. Then one day it all begin to click and whatta you know, I actually started flying the thing. Now, after I learned to fly and quite well, I purchased an Aerohawk and I must admit, that was a heli to stay away from. Now Im up to about 30 helis and all are basically in stock form and they all fly well (The ones that are in flyable status).

[Magenta]

its just the benefits of learning to fly on the HBFP, maybe the twichyest heli avaialbe, and I love it :thumbup: really does make the transition to CPs very easy :YeaBaby:

Nope, the twitchiest heli to learn on has got to be the CP-Pro. And I've got the receipts to prove it! ;)

[Panzer]

Hi All. Here's a tip on the HBK2 tail. I found that the tail blades could not get enough pitch to hold the heli straight under high power settings (the body wants to turn right). I changed the tail blade clamps so they operated on trailing control links instead of leading control links. You have to turn the blade clamps around, the tail blades around and the servo now operates rearwards for high power settings. The belt still drives in the normal direction. The blades now get much more pitch and the heli has much more directional control.

[orlbuzz]

Well, since this thread has been resurrected, I'll use the opportunity to vent. I also started with a BCPP and have a pile of broken parts and have complete separates on it. I did learn to fly with it, but only really got good control after I went to separates and a DX7 (if you can call it control).

I recently bought a HBKII hoping it would be a cheaper heli that flew better than the BCPP, but not quite as good as my T-Rex, something to bang around. After struggling with two stripped allen screws, bad main rotor blades keeping it from tracking, and the upgrades needed just to put it in the air, I'm getting pretty frustrated. After crashing it this afternoon just trying to get the logitech gyro dialed in, I was ready to toss it. (BTW, I don't see how anyone could fly it without a gyro!) I had it close, and should have left it at that. It was flying pretty good in HH mode without being perfectly dialed in in rate mode. Well, I just got another barebones last Monday for parts, so I have one more rebuild in parts left, and I'm stubborn, so I will try again. From what little flying I have done in HH, I think I would like this little heli, if I ever get to really fly it.

Do you guys really get the logitech gyro to hold with no gain, and get the servo adjusted?

Well, thanks for reading. I'll go fly my BCPP and T-Rex tomorrow morning, and then start assessing the damage to the HBKII.

orlbuzz

[Darthdrk]

Wowsers, I got several of the king2s and I like them all. the only upgrade out of the box I really suggest is the brushless motor upgrade. The rate mode stock gyro really isnt that bad for what it is. The heading hold stuff has spoiled alot of people. I was screaming around this afternoon with my K2 brushless with my MD500 mounted on it. I did some loops and rolls. As I said I really like these helis. Please if you ever bump up to a bigger heli, look me up, I may be interested in the little heli. Oh yeah, I dont try flying 3D (Inverted stuff) Ive found all that does for me is make me broke. As a note on the Esky rate mode gyros, So Far I have went through two gyros because they died for some reason.

[orlbuzz]

Darthdrk,

I already have a larger heli, the T-Rex I referred to. (That I'm going to fly tomorrow morning, wink, wink) And, no thank you, I won't be selling the HBKII, as I said, I'm stubborn, I'll get it going. It's just a little frustrating after having it a month, and I'm still re-building.

orlbuzz

[Rotorjunkie]

I've finally given up on my HBK2 as well. But I plan on keeping it around and tinkering with it from time to time. It was a good starting platform for flying and wrenching, but I never was able to get it flying the way I wanted. It flew me more than I flew it. Just the nature of the beast I guess for one of the cheapest CCPM kits out there.

[v2heli]

Im trying to hold on to the thought that if I can fly the HBK2 I can fly anything.
'Tinkering' is the key word. I am glad I started with King V2, At least it made me a good heli mechanic.

V2

[Magenta]

...
Do you guys really get the logitech gyro to hold with no gain, and get the servo adjusted?
...
orlbuzz

Not sure exactly what you're asking. I'm using a 2100T; works pretty well. It's not equal to the 401 on my TRex, but I'm happy with it

[orlbuzz]

Hey Magenta,

What I was asking is this: Were you able to adjust the gyro in rate mode as per the instruction manual (and various other "interpretations" of the manual that can be found online)? Simply stated, hover heli in rate mode with no gain and adjust tail servo until heli holds with no yaw.
Every time I try that, I usually can't keep it steady enough to see which way I need to go with the servo, and end up crashing. Which usually does a LOT of damage to this little heli.

orlbuzz

[Magenta]

Nope. Never tried. And at my skill level, I'm not interested in trying to fly with no gain on the gyro.

I use rate mode to center the servo, center the slider, and set the travel limits. Then I put it into HH mode at a decent gain (75% currently on the gear channel) and fly. So I get a little bounce at the end of a piro; I can live with that.

My understanding of the rate mode technique does not involve setting the gyro gain to zero ... Well, now we're into radio setup, zero in one approach equals 100% in another.

Regardless, I've never tried to adjust the gyro to get a no-yaw hover in rate mode. I center and fly.

[orlbuzz]

Magenta,

That's what I should have done before the last crash. I had it sooo close! Shoulda left it alone.

Guarantee you that's what I will do next time.

orlbuzz

[orlbuzz]

Magenta,

You are soooo correct!!! quote: "My understanding of the rate mode technique does not involve setting the gyro gain to zero ... " My dumbarse mistake. No wonder I couldn't hold it!!
When I get it back together, I will put some gain in!

Thanks!
orlbuzz

[zimatosa]

Although it is correct to set up in rate mode(somewhere between 0 and 50%. I go to 25% gain..) and then switch to HH mode, you should really try and get that wag out of the tail. The servo is being over worked and can cause premature failure...Lower the gain a tad bit at a time until the wag is gone. If you do not have enough control of the tail at the lower gain setting, you might need to readjust your belt. Wag, if amplified by belt tension will mean that 9 times out of ten it is too tight....1mm of play is usually sufficient.

Just my 2 cents..

Z

[Magenta]

What wag?

[shield]

I almost gave up the hobby because of the HBK2. I went and purchased the blinged out carbon fiber version with all the metal upgrades 'thinking' that I would get the same quality and flying experience of the much more expensive heli's. WRONG!

Took me a long time of tweaking to get it off the ground let alone fly right. On my second flight the esc fizzed, smoked and burned the heli fell out of mid-air. It came down like a rock, luckily (i guess) nothing else broke. I took it inside boxed it all up and didn't want anything to with it. I thought about all the time and money wasted and was totally disgusted. I lost interest for a while and didn't fly for months.

When I finally did get the heli-itch again I thought about fixing the HB but the thought lasted all of five seconds. I wasn't going to throw away cash on this heli again so I went online and did some extensive reading and researched diffent brands, reviews and upgrades. I almost purchased another popular RTF heli that was getting good reviews and was about half the price of some of the others. I recalled all too quickly the experience I had with the last RTF heli I purchased and decided to look for something else.

I think what helped the most was reading the many threads of other RC heli owners who's #1 regret was the same across the different forums. The mistake they all had in common was not buying the best heli they could from the start. I am now among those many who will say the same. I wish I knew then what I know now, it sure would have saved me a ton of time and money. I have recently purchased a top of the line heli and couldn't be happier. I know now what flying a heli is really like and love it. :)