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HeliBurns
02-28-2008, 08:08 PM
I'll bet the metal main bearing blocks will reduce or eliminate the static on the gears.....

ChasHeliCop
02-28-2008, 08:18 PM
That's what I am hoping. I just recorded the metal tail case static, should be up in about an 1.5 hours, depending on youtube load time. I tried the mod to the pastic tail case and still got static. IMHO that boom block and stock tail case are acting as the comb of the VDG. Next will be to sand down the boom stop in the block and possibly coat with an aluminum material. :dontknow

Metal Tail Upgrade Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VegecVy5V5Q

VegecVy5V5Q

BOOM BLOCK GRIND MOD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAAI4ohU-m8

kAAI4ohU-m8


http://www.helifreak.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=40354&stc=1&d=1204257011

heliboy88
02-28-2008, 09:59 PM
Yes thats all I did.

And as Chas pointed out, I sitll have static in the main gears, and tail blades, but I didnt have anything on the pulley area, inside that area, front of the boom, or on the boom.

Thanks a lot Jason, do you think this mod is enough since the 450s also have static buildup in the main gear and it seems nobody has reported lockout or glitch problem on the 450.
BTW, thanks a ton to everyone sharing their tests and finding a solution to this static issue, i really learnt a ton here at helifreaks. You guys just ROCK :thumbup::noteworthy:thumbup::noteworthy

shredder777
02-28-2008, 10:21 PM
Really cool!! I hope to get the 500 soon and this makes me feel better in the investment!

Good Job guys!

psindrup
02-29-2008, 03:39 AM
Hey Peter,

I am going to do another video to show this. I am trying not to lube the belt anymore, but following what Fireup has done, ...

Even Finless lubes his belt with silicone.

Peter

Socal500
02-29-2008, 09:40 AM
Nice work ChasHeliCop.

ChasHeliCop
02-29-2008, 09:56 AM
Even Finless lubes his belt with silicone.

Peter

I don't mean silicone. I lube with silicone and still have ESD. Silicone is for a different reason. I am talking about I don't want to lube with Graphite, WD-40, or Anti-static spray that just hides the problem. As many have said these are just band-aids, I am trying to find another solution to all the grounding. WIll the grounding work, yes, Fireup already proved that, I am just trying to expand on what he has already done.

psindrup
02-29-2008, 12:42 PM
I don't mean silicone. I lube with silicone and still have ESD. Silicone is for a different reason. I am talking about I don't want to lube with Graphite, WD-40, or Anti-static spray that just hides the problem. As many have said these are just band-aids, I am trying to find another solution to all the grounding. WIll the grounding work, yes, Fireup already proved that, I am just trying to expand on what he has already done.

Hi ChasHeliCop

I did not know that you already lubed your belt with silicone, and personally, I do not agree that using Graphite 33 is a band aid. I think it is just as "valid" as all the other suggestions to eliminate the static buildup in the tail of the T-rex 500. (WD40 is out of the question, mainly because it contains petroleum, and there are quite a few rapports that it "stretches" the belt)

If we could just get our hands on a conducting tail belt, I think we would all be quite happy too. :thumbup:

Best regards

Peter

mk1spitfire
02-29-2008, 02:34 PM
I lube with silicone and still have ESD. Silicone is for a different reason..


Maybe this should be in the above sticky.

Still have static with silicone?? Non conductive spray.

What reason had you originally used it for? lubing? why, was belt sticking?

Lubing the belt with graphite is no more of a maintenance issue than lubing the main shaft with oil but probably less often.

mk1

ChasHeliCop
02-29-2008, 03:49 PM
Maybe this should be in the above sticky.

Still have static with silicone?? Non conductive spray.

What reason had you originally used it for? lubing? why, was belt sticking?

Lubing the belt with graphite is no more of a maintenance issue than lubing the main shaft with oil but probably less often.

mk1

I originally used silicone and still do to lube the belt and decrease resistance. When you put on a new belt sometimes it does not seat in the cogs of the gear causing damage to the belt. This happened on the first belt I had. Second belt used silicone and have over 200 flights on it on the 450.

I am not saying that using graphite or other sprays is the wrong thing to do by any means. If it keeps the static under control then great. Personally, I want to stop the source of the static. And Peter is absolutely correct, I think we would all be very happy with a conductive belt, but since that doesn't seem to be a reality at the moment, I will keep striving for a solution to my static problem.

Guys, don't get me wrong, I am not objecting to anything anyone else has done, I am all for it. There are just other things that could also be done in addition to those. Someone else originally did the boom stop modification, I just put it on video. Torkboy posted the metal tail case eliminated the static charge, again, I just put it on video.

BlackTitanium
02-29-2008, 03:53 PM
That's what I am hoping. I just recorded the metal tail case static, should be up in about an 1.5 hours, depending on youtube load time. I tried the mod to the pastic tail case and still got static. IMHO that boom block and stock tail case are acting as the comb of the VDG. Next will be to sand down the boom stop in the block and possibly coat with an aluminum material. :dontknow

Did you only install the metal tail case to the boom?

You have to have continuity from the tail case bearing to the boom block bearing, to kill the VDG.

mk1spitfire
02-29-2008, 04:06 PM
. Personally, I want to stop the source of the static. .


The graphite bleeds off the static at the very source of electro generation between the belt and pully.

The silicone ruduces friction and lessens static.

ChasHeliCop
02-29-2008, 04:26 PM
Did you only install the metal tail case to the boom?

You have to have continuity from the tail case bearing to the boom block bearing, to kill the VDG.

Hey BT, Yes, I have only done the metal tail case so far, no other grounding wires yet. Working my way up the boom.