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shaggybirdman
03-17-2008, 10:37 PM
what is needed is setup for no0bs like myself. i'm probably wrong, or probably missed something. but isn't +10 -10 pitch a bit much for a no0b? i mean do i realy need -10 pitch just sitting on the ground before i attempt to hover? i can see 10 10 if i could do 3D, but that's a long way away from now if ever.

shouldn't i need like -3 +10 for my pitch just learning to hover? i must be missing something somewhere.

please enlighten me.

Jerry

Jim T
03-17-2008, 11:36 PM
what is needed is setup for no0bs like myself. i'm probably wrong, or probably missed something. but isn't +10 -10 pitch a bit much for a no0b? i mean do i realy need -10 pitch just sitting on the ground before i attempt to hover? i can see 10 10 if i could do 3D, but that's a long way away from now if ever.

shouldn't i need like -3 +10 for my pitch just learning to hover? i must be missing something somewhere.

please enlighten me.

Jerry

Jerry, I would tend to agree with you. It'll be interesting to see what some of the more experienced folks have to say.

Jim

Skarn
03-18-2008, 12:00 AM
In normal mode, most beginners do setup to have around -2 degree's at low throttle to +11 at full throttle. The Finless video's mention that and the Jermo Radio Setup video does as well.

But there are those that think you should learn to fly in idle up right away. I'm kind of in the middle.....I learned in normal mode, but flipped to idle up fairly soon into it and haven't looked back. The higher headspeed makes it fly really smooth and now that I'm doing flips and loops and such, I don't forget to flip to idle up.

So I think to ease your learning curve, there is nothing wrong with the first few flights using normal mode, but you should switch to idle up sooner rather than later...you'll have to learn that way eventually.

Skarn

gdbontly
03-18-2008, 02:06 AM
I think I have a pretty typical set-up. Normal Mode is very tame, around -2 to +8. Idle Up 1 is the standard "V" Throttle Curve and -9 to +9 for pitch. Idle Up 2 is similar, but more agressive, high headspeed and more pitch. I learned to hover in Normal Mode. Beginners often panic and immediately pull the throttle to idle. If you are in Idle Up, with lots of negative pitch and 100% throttle, you will drive it into the ground. Once I gained some confidence in myself, I transitioned to Idle Up 1 for hover practice and general flying. I'm still a novice, but I never use Normal Mode anymore. My routine is to spin up in Normal Mode, flip to Idle Up 1, fly, land, and back to Normal Mode to spin down.

Jermo
03-18-2008, 06:27 AM
Based on my personal experience I found learning to hover/fly in idle up was a HUGE positive step in the learning process. The chopper is more stable due to a higher head speed and responds better imho.

The downside is it will make any bad habits you've learned worse..eg slamming throttle down if you get into trouble is very bad.

I found negative pitch to be REQUIRED in normal because I was learning during very windy conditions. Without negative pitch you can't get the chopper down very easily. As a beginner that's how you lose a model.

dd016857
03-20-2008, 07:44 PM
Im a newbie and always believe to have minimum +1 or +2 to avoid boom strikes during heavy landing in panic situ.

regards
dan