Upgrade motor

[Jason Chow]

the flight times were limited to 3 minutes flat, the power was better than stock and the headspeed sounded slightly better than stock on 15t. i only had a flight with it unfortunately.

i think the amp draw is very high on this motor however, may want to be careful and look at getting the scorpion esc. im running the jazz 80amp on mine now.

[terrabit]

I'm running the Scorpion 3026-1900 on FP 5s 3700's and getting more than 6 minutes.

[drzoidberg]

Get the Medusa. The flight times are the same. and the motor temps are lower when used with the heat sink. or the same when used with out it. I didnt have any probelms flying the stock motor. I was telling my brother that i dont think i need that Medusa any more. But it was already comming. Now that i got it. WOW its so much stronger and more fun to fly.

Dieselracer,

When you say flight times are the same did you mean the same as the stock motor or the same as the scorpion?

Psindrup,

I dont really have a reason to upgrade the motor. Its just that since I replaced the motor in my 450 with a scorpion motor I have a lust for power. However I have read many posts saying the 500 motor is good enough.

Ill think about it I guess.

Thanks guys

[shadowmastervn]

Medusa or Scorpion is the best for sport 3D, I'm not the hard 3D flight

[dieselracer]

Dieselracer,

When you say flight times are the same did you mean the same as the stock motor or the same as the scorpion?

Psindrup,

I dont really have a reason to upgrade the motor. Its just that since I replaced the motor in my 450 with a scorpion motor I have a lust for power. However I have read many posts saying the 500 motor is good enough.

Ill think about it I guess.

Thanks guys
Same as Stock. But with more Power. The Stock motor is plenty powerful. But i really liked the extra power of the Medusa.

[Finless]

I haven't seen any other motor out perform the Scorpion 1400 motor!

Does the Medusa produce this much power?

http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=Bham08&filename=BotosFireup500FlybarlessB-Ham08.wmv

This is just plain insane in the membrane ;)

Bob

[drzoidberg]

Thanks guys, I thnk I will think about it some more but will take all of your comments into consideration. I dont like the sounds of reduced flight times so perhaps the medusa will come out on top.

I guess I will wait and see what the stock motor is like first. I have not had a chance to fly it yet because of the blade shortage. Ahhrrggg!!

[raptorheli2]

well you need to have a flybarless setup to test the medusa or better still, put a medusa in that one and try it.

cheers

[dieselracer]

One thing is power. One thing is speed. I saw speed. but didnt see anything that showed power/torque.

[trextuning]

I agree Raptorheli2, you can't compare a flybarless powered machine to a flybarred machine and say it's all down to the motor. I have flybarless machines and they consume about 20-30% less power due to the lack of flybar. We should compare apples with apples when it comes to motors. As it happens I already have the Medusa's and the Scorpions will be here soon, so I will compare them properly on a bench test. Then we can see what has the best power, what the amp draw premium is and what motor provides best torque for the amps.... instead of looking at videos of different machines and guessing. Many videos that look powerful are just down to the pilot, anyone remember the early T-Rex 600 Szabo videos, that was a 600L and it looked amazing, we all know the limits of that motor now.

[Finless]

Well I will have to go find my older link of Kevin's heli with that 1400 scorpion motor BEFORE he converted it to flybarless..... Flybarless makes the heli faster on cyclic yes but it doesnt make it more powerful. At least not enough to make that big a difference.... Thats all motor baby...

Anyway I do have a video around of Kevin flying the stock 500 with that motor. I just gotta find it.

I have flybarless machines and they consume about 20-30% less power due to the lack of flybar
Hmm that seems WAY too high.... Kevin is not seeing that much difference in power consumption. Maybe 10% with his Vbar setup.... I have yet to have anyone tell me they are seeing a 30% reduction is power draw due to going flybarless.

Bob

[chichiuno]

I haven't seen any other motor out perform the Scorpion 1400 motor!

Does the Medusa produce this much power?

http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=Bham08&filename=BotosFireup500FlybarlessB-Ham08.wmv

This is just plain insane in the membrane ;)

Bob

The Scorpion 1400 motor.
A motor inspired by Aberdeen's co-designed V2 Series!
Wait till you check out the Aberdeen co-design 600 series motors!:shock:
unlike no other...:YeaBaby:

[chichiuno]

Well I will have to go find my older link of Kevin's heli with that 1400 scorpion motor BEFORE he converted it to flybarless..... Flybarless makes the heli faster on cyclic yes but it doesnt make it more powerful. At least not enough to make that big a difference.... Thats all motor baby...

Anyway I do have a video around of Kevin flying the stock 500 with that motor. I just gotta find it.


Hmm that seems WAY too high.... Kevin is not seeing that much difference in power consumption. Maybe 10% with his Vbar setup.... I have yet to have anyone tell me they are seeing a 30% reduction is power draw due to going flybarless.

Bob

In UK, they have higher standards.

[trextuning]

Personally I don't care whether the scorpion is more powerful than the medusa, 500L or vice versa. A good pilot can make a total dog of a motor look great. Similarly a motor can have masses of power and suck your pack try in 2 minutes flat. Even 10% (if we use Bob's figures) is a big difference and therefore the video referenced in my view is misleading on what an average 500 user can expect unless they also go flybarless.

As I said earlier, I'll be testing theses motors properly in controlled conditions, same machine, same packs, same pitch range, same test and this will end the speculation. Exactly as I have done with 450 motors over the past 2 years. Then people can select the motor they want knowing what characteristics they can expect, what power, what amp draw and exactly how it compares to the other motors available. Real facts instead of speculating over videos.

[Astennu]

Totaly different what motor is best for the best power/flightime ratio ?

I'm not doing 3D yet so i want to have as much flight time as possible and still have enough power.

I haven't seen any other motor out perform the Scorpion 1400 motor!

Does the Medusa produce this much power?

http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=Bham08&filename=BotosFireup500FlybarlessB-Ham08.wmv

This is just plain insane in the membrane ;)

Bob

What a power and What a speed :happyd:drool:

Which tail blades is he using there ?

I love that vid :D

[terrabit]

Too much ego here.

[Finless]

As I said earlier, I'll be testing theses motors properly in controlled conditions, same machine, same packs, same pitch range, same test and this will end the speculation. Exactly as I have done with 450 motors over the past 2 years.

Excellent... I will be looking forward to the results!

Bob

[Finless]

The Scorpion 1400 motor.
A motor inspired by Aberdeen's co-designed V2 Series!
Wait till you check out the Aberdeen co-design 600 series motors!:shock:
unlike no other...http://www.helifreak.com/images/smilies/nodding%20grin.gif

Now thats funny! I talked with Scorpion recently and they said the only thing Aberdeen contributed to on any of thier designs was the need for a collar at the top of the motor! Co-designed? Not based on what they said....

Bob

[trextuning]

Totaly different what motor is best for the best power/flightime ratio ?

Well we should get that info from the very same test I mentioned earlier. However as a rule of thumb, the less power a motor exibits the more likely it is to give a longer flight......unless it's really badly designed, which is quite unusual these days.

[trextuning]

just got notification that the Scorpion 1400 & 1900 have been shipped today. I already have the Medusa V2 36-50-1600. Obviously I have a 500L, so the first test will be 5S & 6S combos on the above four motors.

[mensaboy]

just got notification that the Scorpion 1400 & 1900 have been shipped today. I already have the Medusa V2 36-50-1600. Obviously I have a 500L, so the first test will be 5S & 6S combos on the above four motors.


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mad props....

[Super D]

Just my 2 cents! But i have all 3 of the Scorpion motors and my favorit so far is the 1900KV on 5S with a 14tooth pinion this for me is the best combo of flight time and power! :smokin:

[beeflyer2]

But i have all 3 of the Scorpion motors

There are actually five: 1000, 1210, 1400, 1600, & 1900.

1210 on 8S rocks pretty hard!

[Super D]

I know but there are 3 that are more popular IMHO! plus I couldnt get my hands on the other 2! :arggg:

[RTDillon]

Anyone investigating an 8 cell setup with smaller packs? Just a thought. ;-)