new problem

[shaggybirdman]

a new question. as i spin up, and get light on the skids she will slide to the left. i can stop her with right cyclic, but i don't think the blades are actually giving left cyclic. it's a perficatly flat slide.

[Leaf Blower]

The tail rotor is PUSHING the craft to the left. It also causes the helicopter to tilt a little. It's normal and if you want to "mess around" on the floor, you will need to use cyclic to control it. Reality, you will always need to use cyclic, whether on the ground or hovering 4 feet in the air.

[Skarn]

Yep, that's the natural tendency of the heli....it will always lean a tad.

Skarn

[shaggybirdman]

let me clarify the problem. just so you understand me. maybe we are talking the same problem.

it's not turning to the left. it's sliding to the left as if i were inputting left cyclic. the rotor looks to be flat. no lean to the heli, or rotor.

is that what you mean as being normal? if so to stop it i have to put in a ton of right cyclic to counter it. the biggest problem is i don't have near enough space to fly. enough to do Radd's flight school though. i need the weather to warm up so i can go outside, and practice.

if we are talking about the same ting i'll just have to adjust. i will learn to fly by god!!!!!

[Skarn]

As long as your swash is level then yes, it has a natural tendency to slide/lean to the left. You counter this by giving it enought collective to get it to lift off while countering with your cyclic.

Skarn

[Skiddz]

shaggy. What you're seeing/experiencing is translating tendency. It's normal...

[BarracudaHockey]

The tail rotor is blowing the helicopter sideways. They all do it, even the real ones. They lean a bit to the right (clockwise rotation blades) in a hover.

[wren1702]

What they said......One day soon, you'll overcome this....it becomes natural. You'll never think about it or notice it again. This is probably the first "Light Bulb" that comes on during your learning process.

[shaggybirdman]

maybe the first, but i bet not the last. so even in a hover will the rotor, or the hole heli look to be leaning to the left? that mite be the problem i was getting last year with my nitro bird. i thought i was just over correcting.

next question. how the heck do i get the count down timer to start? i have it for 6 min, but when i advance the throttle it just stairs back at me. it's a dx7. shows down-t, and under it 6:00.

[BarracudaHockey]

It leans right (to correct for the left drift)

One of the buttons on the face of the radio, SELECT i think starts it and CLEAR resets it. Play with the programming buttons when its at the main flight screen.

[odieser]

on the DX7 the timer is not throttle engaged you must hit the adjust decrease button (toggle on face lower right) and the adjust increase to pause timer. No other way to engage timer. I wish it was throttle controlled as well because I always forget to engage for a min or so. Constantly guessing on time.( I guess that is why I fly with AIR THUNDER BATTERIES less chance of damage.)
Mark

[shaggybirdman]

so in flight it will look to be leaning to the left, and then i correct it, and in a hover it will look to be leaning to the right? i'm looking for that first light bulb to light. :cheers

[shaggybirdman]

oh ya the decrease starts it. increase stops it, and clear resets it. thanks so much :thumbup:

[odieser]

no problem happy flying.

[shaggybirdman]

on the DX7 the timer is not throttle engaged you must hit the adjust decrease button (toggle on face lower right) and the adjust increase to pause timer. No other way to engage timer. I wish it was throttle controlled as well because I always forget to engage for a min or so. Constantly guessing on time.( I guess that is why I fly with AIR THUNDER BATTERIES less chance of damage.)
Mark

how do you like your hurricane 550? thinking about it being my next heli.

[odieser]

I found that I was never or never wanted to master 3D flights at this point so I installed it in the fuselage for some easy scale flight and I think that being notdesigned as a full out 3d killer it is great for what I am using it for. Yes lots of people are spending a small fortune in upgrades (new frames and more powerfull motors and different gearing and such) but I think that it will never be a trex or a logo and such. I am very happy with what I have and would spend the money and time again. I already am anticapating the new 425 and 500 Hurricanes coming soon.
Just my two cents sorry for the ramblings.
Mark

[shaggybirdman]

not at all. i'm looking for info. pros or cons. i want a bigger heli, and ounce i herd that it uses 2 batteries instead of 1 put it at the top of a very short list. someone here said they use 2 batteries on there trex 500. didn't know that it would. actually why wouldn't it? just getting the right batteries is all i guess. 1 big 6 cell won't be cheap. so send me your feelings on it big or small. i need info. :thumbup:

[odieser]

Well now with the new 6S 2200-2500 Mah 20c-25c batteries out there running one battery has become much more economical. But running Two batteries is fine if that is what you have. The Hurricane and the trex 500 as well as other such as the sjm425 and rct-425 which are still in development all use 3s in their inital design spec but are being upgraded with new frames and such for 6s and A123 batteries.
Mark

[shaggybirdman]

what do those packs cost, and what's the cost on a mid to high range charger sell for? what kind of run time do you get with that pack?

what's the average run time for a trex? not sure, but i got like almost 30 min on 1 pack tonight. ok before everyone starts rolling there eyes heres what happened.

i did the normal install/setup. started to try to hover then remembered to start the timer. hopped a bunch then the rod for the tail blade popped out. forgot to ca it in. i think i stopped the timer. think is the key word, but how long does it take to glue, and install the rod into the end cap? i'll even go 10 min as a realistic long number. now it's 20 min of flight... oops hopping. can a 3c 2200mah 20, or is it 25c battery give 20 min of hopping around? when the esc started to pulse the timer said 24:30 or so. 24 + 6 min makes 30 min of timer. never herd the alarm go off. LOL i do remember telling Clark i forgot to breath. it did take a bit to get relaxed. wish i had my neck strap with me. it felt like forever holding the radio. i really do think i got 20 out of the back. i even scooted her on the floor to get her back in the middle of the room.

i had a great pack. no broken parts, and i actually had a few 3 to 5 sec hovers. ok you guys can fly, but i'm still learning to hover. you were there ounce. i guess the 8 tanks of fuel in my shuttle, and a unknown number of packs in my cx2 really helped. not to mention the input form you guys about the left slide thing. actually almost got that under control now. had my friends training gear on. that gave me allot of confidence. i'm not up to Clark's skill level yet, but my rex flies 100 times easer than hit cp pro. imagine that hu :flamedevil? scared him to death when i was in idle up. LOL he said to switch to normal mode, but still hid behind me. really can't say i blame him. my rex's head speed is way higher than his pro. i'm going to bed with a smile on my face tonight. :thumbup:

i did break the tips off the bat (as i call them) tail blades, but other than that no breakage :) it was a :clappp night flying. did i say i had fun?

I HAD A TON OF FUN

what a rush :YeaBaby: :thumbup: thanks for all the help guys. i may even get ahead of Clark. my girl sure does fly nice.

now i really can say just get a trex, and be done with it. such a sweet bird.

[shaggybirdman]

What they said......One day soon, you'll overcome this....it becomes natural. You'll never think about it or notice it again. This is probably the first "Light Bulb" that comes on during your learning process.

think it just lit tonight :)

you running 6 cell packs in your 600's? what kind of run times in sport flying? price of one please. is a 600 a 50 size bird?

[shaggybirdman]

i must say though idle up is a bit scary at the moment. all i can see is parts scattering :bomb: all over :(

[Skarn]

Excellent job getting if flying bro!

But I have to say....time goes slow when you are flying. I find it hard to believe you got 20 mintues of flying/hopping yet alone 30!

I've never heard of anyone getting more than about 12 minutes......but just because I havent's seen it or heard about it doesn't make it not true!

Skarn

[shaggybirdman]

well like i said i may have not stopped the timer during the gluing, and it might have still been ticking away after i sat down for awhile. i to doubt i got that much time on the battery either. the timer said 24 something. if i did get that long i'm getting more of those batteries :noteworthy

[shaggybirdman]

well today i flew the battery for over 12 min, and the esc didn't start to pulse on me, but i broke her :( not bad though. i gotta figure out how to replace the rod coupler for the tail servo rod. i broke the white plastic piece that you glue to the carbon rod that you screw the ball link rod into.

i'm going to make one out if a piece of rc car body mount. i'll drill a small hole for the threaded rod, and one for the carbon rod.

anyone have a better idea to fix this?

[shaggybirdman]

hovering is starting to click now. i had a few 30 second hovers :thumbup: wasnt the best looking, but some of it was almost still in 1 place. i'm very proud of myself. i thought Clark was way ahead of me, but at this rate i'll catch, and pass him. he flies every day. i only fly when i can get to his house ounce, or twice a week. waiting for the weather to get nice, so i can fly outside without freezing my tookus off.

shows what a good heli can do for ya. me trex. Clark a blade cp pro. it just started to click.