Logo 600 3D Static

[t-rexn8]

Just wanted to bring this up again and see what people are doing to eliminate static on the Logo 600. My CC HV 85 does not like the static. I am trying to avoid the graphite spray but I know that may be necessary.

[jamesotron99]

Hey Nate.

I'm using CRC 808 silicone spray on my belt and all my problems are gone.

[Klinger]

Never had a static problem with my 600 and no spray or gounding done to it! Must be the weather :YeaBaby:

[Mercuriell]

Never had a static problem with my 600 and no spray or gounding done to it! Must be the weather :YeaBaby:

Me neither - Certainly helps flying over puddles and humidity of 65% in our part of the world ;)

[th3tick]

Hey Nate,

Next time we manage to be at the same field, I can bring a can of the Graphit33 spray and you can give it a whirl. It takes so little, and you're welcome to some - I have two cans ;)

John

[dahld]

At the Las Vegas Ultimate Competition the week before last, Andy Rummer was getting ESD, which was affecting his tail. You could see it while he was flying the Competition. My son Kyle, age 14, was also flying in the competition (I'll shamelessly mention he took 1st Place in the 600 Advanced class). Andy thought it might be his tail servo, which he changed between flights. Didn't help. He still had the problem in subsequent flights. Andy up to that point had taken no preventative measures to stop ESD, as he had not experienced the problem much while flying in Germany. The dry Las Vegas weather poised no problem for Kyle's 600 during any of his flights, because coming from a dry climate (Central California), I had had problems with ESD, and had taken steps to prevent it.

Andy, the Team Esprit guys and myself had a long discussion after the competition about the situation. Andy said they (Mikado) is aware ESD happens, but have a hard time solving a problem that practically never happens in Germany (where all the R&D takes place), because of the weather (not real dry). Everyone in the conversation had had the problem at one time or another, with different results (based on the weather) from all the "tricks" pilots have been using to prevent ESD.

When the discussion was over, the conclusion was that the only thing that works ALL the time, in ALL weather conditions, is to replace the plastic belt idler pulley with metal bearings, ground the bearing bolt to the boom, and then ground the boom. Take the information for what its worth ;). I'm using the grounding system, and have over 200 flights in very dry weather since installing it, without a single ESD "hit".

Take Care, Dave Dahl.

[OICU812]

So Mr. Dahl where are you grounding the boom to? To the motor mount somehow or to the negative on the esc?

I have applied Graphit 33 on mine awhile back an no issue really to speak of, not as dry as Vegas but our winters are very dry here indeed.

[dahld]

Shawn (OICU812),
I go directly to the negative side of the motor battery. I use a servo plug pin (the ones you can get for making your own servo plugs), or steal one from a servo extension. The grounding wire runs forward along the frames to the front, and each time I mount the motor battery in the frames, I just plug the small servo pin into the black negative port of the battery's balancing plug.

My only issue with the graphite, is although it works well most of the time, I can't say for me it worked ALL the time. Every once in a while, out of the blue I'd get an ESD hit (from my conversations, I'm not the only one in this category). Maybe it had been too long since I applied it last, the humidity changed, the flexibility of the belt changed with the temperature, a head speed change, belt tension different, I don' know, but it wasn't 100% ALL the time. The grounding technique works 100% of the time, and once done, ESD is gone, and it never has to be revisited.

Take Care, and hope to meet-up with you one of these days at an event. Dave Dahl.

[BruceW]

... My son Kyle, age 14, was also flying in the competition (I'll shamelessly mention he took 1st Place in the 600 Advanced class)...

I just saw the HD video of your son's flight over on RR. NICE job! He flies very smooth and I can see why he won his class - even a few crack rolls and flips thrown in.

(Right click and hit "Save As..."

(Low res) (http://runryder.tv/helicopter/rrTV-Photo/funflies/LasVegas2008/rrVegas08Fri-03-Kyle-Dahl.wmv)rrVegas08Fri-03-Kyle-Dahl.wmv (http://runryder.tv/helicopter/rrTV-Photo/funflies/LasVegas2008/rrVegas08Fri-03-Kyle-Dahl.wmv)

(High res) rrVegas08Fri-03-Kyle-Dahl-HD.wmv (http://runryder.tv/helicopter/rrTV-Photo/funflies/LasVegas2008/rrVegas08Fri-03-Kyle-Dahl-HD.wmv)


Bruce

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

I just saw the HD video of your son's flight over on RR. NICE job! He flies very smooth and I can see why he won his class - even a few crack rolls and flips thrown in.

Bruce
Link please.

[BruceW]

Link please.

Just modified the original post.

[enry74hh]

Shawn (OICU812),
I go directly to the negative side of the motor battery. I use a servo plug pin (the ones you can get for making your own servo plugs), or steal one from a servo extension. The grounding wire runs forward along the frames to the front, and each time I mount the motor battery in the frames, I just plug the small servo pin into the black negative port of the battery's balancing plug.

My only issue with the graphite, is although it works well most of the time, I can't say for me it worked ALL the time. Every once in a while, out of the blue I'd get an ESD hit (from my conversations, I'm not the only one in this category). Maybe it had been too long since I applied it last, the humidity changed, the flexibility of the belt changed with the temperature, a head speed change, belt tension different, I don' know, but it wasn't 100% ALL the time. The grounding technique works 100% of the time, and once done, ESD is gone, and it never has to be revisited.


Take Care, and hope to meet-up with you one of these days at an event. Dave Dahl.



You can have a photo of his system ?

Many thanks