Where can you get Hawk parts???

[skunkworx]

I have a buddy in town that has a Hawk Heli That I'm trying to help get airborne. I've been looking around for parts to help him out with it, but can't find them anywhere. I checked all of the normal sites, but I have yet to find one distributer who stocks Century stuff besides TowerHobbies and they only carry 5 or 6 parts at the most.

What are some recommended parts to get for it? So far I've come up with dampeners, swash guide and better blades. Any other tips/tricks?

[JustPlaneChris]

www.ronlund.com (HeliProz South) carries Century parts, and of course www.heli-world.com is the main Century distributor. Heck, I've even found Century parts on Amazon.com! :)

[skunkworx]

I take it that Kinetic 50 parts are virtually the same thing, right? They sure look the same to me!. Helihobby has parts as well (just found that site):)

[RAV50]

As Chris said, in the USA, Ron's HeliproZ South in Texas and Heli-World in California are good places to go for Century Parts.

As for the Kinetic 50, it depends what version of the Hawk one is requiring part for. If you are talking the current Hawk Pro. There are a good number of parts that are the same, but some are also different. Knowing which ones are different is the key.

I am sure you will find all those needed at one of the two above.

[skunkworx]

Yeah it's looking that way. There are still a few parts here and there that might be nice to get, but this is the first time investigating info on this particualr bird. I have come to the conclusion that it would simply be better to just get the Raven, but seeing my buddy already owns the hawk, there's not much we can do! Oh well, it's his first heli, so not too bad of a choice because parts are so cheap :)

[RAV50]

I have the Raven and the Hawk Pro - two quite different helis. Both very good helis in their respective class (30/50)...but the Raven 50 is awesome, specially for the price.

That being said, IMHO, the biggest reason that the 30 size heli lost popularity to the 50'a was when the OS50Hyper replaced the OS46, it was substantially more powerful then its' predecessor, giving 50 size helis a great power to weight ratio boost and breathing life into that size.

Fortunately for the 30 class, the new OS37 and the Toki 40's with the tuned mufflers now available for them, produce a lot more power then did the former OS32SXH's. Now these 30's have a similar power to weight ratio.

My Hawk Pro with the Toki 40 and its special muffler really hauls butt. So I found myself flying it a lot this past summer. It has caused me to leave the field many times this past summer with a big happy grin on my face :-)

[skunkworx]

So if a tuned pipe were in the works, which would be a good choice for the .37? I'm used to my Trex 450, so I assume the same parts go out in a crash, but are there any more that usually go on the Hawk? I've figured out the TT goes on tail-ins which is expected, but other than that, it sure does look like a well built machine! Can't wait to get it going.

I got a great deal with the guy who owns it. He owns a boat shop and I get the hook-up for fixing up his heli. Not a bad bit of luck at all!

[GyroAl]

Tuned pipes for helis went the way of the Dodo bird many years ago, as they operated very differently to that of an airplane or car.

We have moved more to tuned mufflers as they are more "broadband"

I used the CN3037 (specially designed for the OS37) on my OS7 and found it delivers great power and smooth transition while remaining relatively quiet....and it has a great price also.:thumbup:

[skunkworx]

Tuned pipe, tuned muffler, whatever you call it. Yes, that's what I was talking about.
What exactly do you mean by 'broadband' anyways? I've never heard of it like that.

[GyroAl]

Broadband refers to the rpm range it works in wihout dropping its tuning.

A true tuned pipe is narrowband, meaning it gives a very pronounced power increase within a very narrow rpm range relative to its tuning - e.g. 17000 to 17500.

A tuned muffler is broadband, though it may not boost the power near as much, t does so over a broader rpm range - e.g. 15000 to 18000

[skunkworx]

So in other words it's for the power band of the motor, right? You would think that you would actually want the narrow band if you were running a constand RPM speed. To me it seems it would act kinda like it's own governer and allow you to stay a very specific headspeed. Of course that might be tossed on the idea of running dual stunt modes. Oh well. I guess that's just one more thing I have to learn about with the helis VS the cars. Thanks for the info!

[GyroAl]

Yes, it does sound a bit counterproductive, but it really isn't.

Consider that if a tuned pipe runs in a narrow motor rpm range, that represents only about a 55 rotor speed range.

So consider through many maneuvers, one can easily overload an engine and cause it to drop 50 rpm (one would probably hardly notice the change in soumd). When this happens, the motor drops "off the pipe" and, without onloading it, one will not be able to get it back "onto the pipe". Off the pipe, it actually delivers relatively little power, as it is now very "untuned". As the power will usually now be sorely needed, and it will not be available. One now is in a catch 22 situation, the result is usually a good heavy hit on the Visa card. :o

[skunkworx]

It's so weird to see the difference from my cars. They seem to pull right after they kick past 12K rpm's and continue all the way up to nearly 40K rpm. I suppose helis are geared very differently. Good insight into the workings of them. Never hurts to know too much huh?