AHHHH!!!!!! Gods angry

[skydude]

I knew it. I knew they needed to be appeased. Taking their generosity for granted. What was I thinking?

And thus in their anger did they cause the winds to rise up and smite the mighty Hurri, sending it to the earth, condemning its very soul to hell.

OR

I was trying to do one of my fancy schmancy new auto landings, and as I reached for the throttle hold with the bird about 2 feet off the deck I input a little aileron causing the blades to strike before motor shutdown.

It had to be one of the two.

Wasn't THAT bad. Blades, shaft, brngs, flybar, 61t stripped, finished off the slightly bent left skid, feather shaft brngs feel bad. Damn.
It was very gusty, which was why I decided to bring it in quick, and came down at the base of my berm.

I know it is probably just superstition that leads me to think the Gods may be angry, but maybe I should go back to my original plan of sacrificing 'something'.

Just in case.

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[skydude]

Who's using up all the Hurri parts from ready heli and driving them out of stock?

Either the gods are extremely angry at ALL of us, or we are a bunch of hosers.

Has to be one of the two.

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[xodarap1]

Heheheh.. Sorry to hear about the crash.
I've never done an auto on purpose and don't see the point doing it when I have power left to make a normal landing. Why do you autoing dudes (and dudetts?) risk a crash? You could practice doing them all day and get them all right and then when the time comes to do it when you aren't expecting it, you could crash and burn in anyway. :) When the time comes (not if, but when..) I'll do one when I have no other choice and pull collective and bring it in during the last few seconds. Until then, autos on the sim are just fine and dandy for me man.. and free. :)

[skydude]

Yeah, I know what you are saying. I still figure I would like to be able to auto with my eyes closed if I have to. For form if nothing else. But you never know. Have had my Honey Bee blow up in flight.

I know one thing for sure. No way in hell am I going to do this again.

Just can't bring myself to get on the sim. We can fly year around here and 'my' field is just down the block.

[michael88997]

i like doing autos because i think its a fun stunt... but i learned because when i flew nitros i wanted to be able to save the heli in case flame out or something...

sorry about your crash... everyonce in a while you must sacrifice lol, especially when ur doin autos in gusty winds

[mjdee14]

A gusty day 2 feet off the ground ? The Gods aren't mad at you....
their laughing at you :nanabobo

Sorry about the crash but it sounds like you did more damage than some guys augerring from 20 feet....

I would eventually like to practice autos also...but I'm having a real hard time killing a perfectly good motor. I tired the 2 -3 off the grnd hitting TH.....the heli spun 1/2 turn and I alsmost lost it...won't do that again.

I don't even think if we sacrificed a "male model" in Borneo would have helped.

[xodarap1]

I don't even think if we sacrificed a "male model" in Borneo would have helpedROFL :)

Um.. ordering, paying for and the downtime of waiting for parts to come in just to rebuild what was a perfectly sound heli before spawning a self inflicted crash is not my kinda fun stunt man. ;)

[vicrc]

I think we all purchased spare parts for sacrificial offerings. :shock:

[vicrc]

Heheheh.. Sorry to hear about the crash.
I've never done an auto on purpose and don't see the point doing it when I have power left to make a normal landing. Why do you autoing dudes (and dudetts?) risk a crash? You could practice doing them all day and get them all right and then when the time comes to do it when you aren't expecting it, you could crash and burn in anyway. :) When the time comes (not if, but when..) I'll do one when I have no other choice and pull collective and bring it in during the last few seconds. Until then, autos on the sim are just fine and dandy for me man.. and free. :)

I have been ending my flights in auto, I believe its an important skill to have. However my skill is only up to 8 feet at the moment, anything higher scares me. Just a few days ago my Heli quit in flight up at 40 feet and the fall broke the landing gear, but having no experiences with autoing it would have been worse and it would have drop like a rock without collective management.

[mysticmead]

learning to auto is a very important skill.. learning on the sim is nothing like a real auto... well.. the process is similar, but learning to do it on your heli is different. It's not just a fun stunt (ok... it's fun) but in certain disciplines of flying it's a required skill. nitro helis can lose power at any moment.. if you ever start looking at competition flying.. it's a required skill.. FAI/F3C .. the last maneuver you do is a auto WITH a 180* turn then land it in a 1 meter circle.. now that's pure skill to be able to do that.. what does all this prove to other people... that YOU have complete control over you heli at all times... even when it has no power. what does it prove to yourself... that you can stay calm under pressure and can bring your heli down hopefully with little to no damage..

the key is to stay calm... and the only way to be calm when you suddenly lose power is to be used to landing with no power... if all you do is the sim where a crash is just a simple reset.. and there's no adrenaline surging through you... it's just a game at that point.. doing it to your heli for real and learning to master the auto's...you learn to be calm.. then when you do have to auto it in because of a failure, you'll be able to handle it without thinking...

that's why you should practice autos...I auto my 450 every time I go fly... it might only be 5 feet off the ground...and the tail might swing (that's normal).. but I'm learning to control the tail while managing the collective to land and not crash. as I get better, I'll start moving my autos higher.. a 550 can auto a lot better than a 450.. so learning on a brick like my 450 should transfer to a nice clean auto on a 550...

[Jungle Bob]

And thus- a Mighty Wind did come from the Land of Borneo and all was put assunder (ooops pardon me) Comeuppunce me thinks!
JB

ps. nO ONE 'REALLY' LIKES TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS BRO

[skydude]

Scared the hell out of poor Jeb dog. He starts shaking at 'exploding' sounds. He needed more comforting than I did. Born on the 4th of July. Every year he goes nuts at the fireworks bangs.

I feel much better. Parts on the way. I was devastated for about 13 seconds.

I'll bet you really don't have an alibi for on or about 9:30 EDT huh JB? I guess I just may have had it coming, encouraging Wazzer like that.

It seems my only question is - Was it too much encouragement..........or too little?

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[skigolfmike]

I've never done an auto on purpose and don't see the point doing it when I have power left to make a normal landing.

Because Finless lands that way all the time in his videos.;)

[xodarap1]

I can understand what you are saying about it being a needed and required skill for competition flying or nitros if they flame out, and I would agree that if you ever plan to be required to do that that you have the practice..but I will never fly a nitro heli or fly in competitions. As for it not being real enough on a sim.. i think it would be about as real as the sim part failures are and that's pretty darn real. I've had those happen in real life and on the sim and they are very similar. I never tried to auto it except on the sim, so I can't say.. but I'm sure someday it will happen. When it does, it could end in a crash, just like trying it a few times before hand could end up. I'm in no rush to crash to buy more stuff and that's all I meant and was what I was wondering about. As for what it would show people or onlookers? I think that people would see that you had total control over a perfectly stable model to a point and then used your best "judgement" to turn off the power on purpose and either crashed or didn't while attempting to do something that really wasn't necessary at the time,.. which could have endangered yourself or other people for no reason. As for staying cool, I have been cool while my helis have crashed into the ground after part failures and loss of orientation, so being tense during an auto wouldn't be an issue. After over 400 flights I have never been in a situation to have to auto a heli in. I have had elevator servo arms snap in flight and other head parts tail parts and others break in flight. Some ended in crashes, some didn't. But the ability to auto wouldn't have mattered in any of my crash situations to date. I do understand what you are saying and I do agree that in certain situations to qualify for things it would be a needed skill, but not for most pilots because I don't think most pilots fly nitros or are in competition events or ever plan to. I also think that just about any experienced/advanced pilot would be able to auto a heli in and put it down even if they have never practiced it before at a real field. I'll let you know if my power ever goes out and I still have control of the heli because I'll be doing my first one then and will either crash or not. :) If I do auto it in my first time without any practice and have no damage, then I will either be lucky or skilled. I can live with either one as long as no part orders are involved heheh. I do welcome the experience when it does come. But, like I said, I'm sure not going to start testing my skill at it just to increase my chances of being in an increased downtime situation while I wait for more parts if one of them would happen to go bad.

[xodarap1]

Because Finless lands that way all the time in his videos.;)

LOL.. finless doesn't buy me new parts lol.:)

[Wazzer]

My modeling days are over so I think I am safe from Sacrifice!

How ever i did find some old pics that might make you laugh in a recent hard drive spring clean. Introducing the lovely Marina from Brazil

And I was getting paid for these!!

Like i said its a tough life out here!

Just don't tell the wife I posted them or I may be sacrificed to a different God instead!

[mjdee14]

Wazzer...nice - huh- boat !

Now....all we have to do is tell your wife you posted those pictures...and your "Toast" so you had better be nice to us....

xodarap1...I will disagree with one element of your statement about autos....I do not think any experieinced heli pilot would automatically be able to properly perform an auto without practice....the reason I say that is, first it is not a natural instinct to flip the TH switch if your not used to it....if you loose total power you might say you won't need the TH....but then it is not a natural instinct to reduce collective to zero or below when loosing altitude or flaring to pick up rotor speed with negative pitch.

I have been practicing autos for hours on the sim...not sure how realistic it is..but they are not easy...you can loose HS too easy with wrong collective and crash on landing. i can say if it ever happens I would handle it a lot different than if I had never practiced on the sim....jmho

[Jungle Bob]

wAZZER (no! I didn't leave the CAPSLOCK on....I like it like that!)
I was there, she was a miserable ***** with a big a~~e
Becky (his misses) is much nicer in every aspect!
Wanna wangle a day at site next week, think I'm gonna be there for a few days. We need some Hurri pics on the beach!
Skydude, glad to hear your bird will be up and about again soon (yet to crash mine but that's only through lack of flight hours, I'm sure it's coming!)
Sorry the internet speed isn't up to scratch here but the vacation offer still stands...we NEED more flyers here!
PS. I think I am getting a new camera for my birthday next week so the pic quality may start to improve! (wAZZER (see, did it again! Bloody computers) that was a MASSIVE hint!)

[mysticmead]

Bob... what landing gear is on your Hurri?? is that the trex 600 gear? or should I be asking Ben that question :D

[xodarap1]

Mjdee14, I meant any experienced pilot without practice doing it first hand in the field. I was assuming that most experienced pilots today would include taking the time to practice something like autos at least 100 or so times in a sim, i know i sure have, just not out at the field.

[skydude]

Wazzer...nice - huh- boat !
jmho

I have to agree. And nice other 'B' things.

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Mountains and beaches without having to live in CA. Nice.

(Nothing wrong with CA really. I love it actually. Just a little crowded.)

[skydude]

Here is my 'B'. My boy!

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[skydude]

A gusty day 2 feet off the ground ? The Gods aren't mad at you....
their laughing at you :nanabobo



And.........It was nose in.

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[Wazzer]

Bob... what landing gear is on your Hurri?? is that the trex 600 gear? or should I be asking Ben that question :D

Those are Raptor30/50 landing gear on both our hurricanes.

I really like the look of them the original ones looked way to small in my mind.

They are much wider and give a great foot print to fly from and safe stable landings

They bolted straight on all you need to do is drill a hole for the lower canopy mount then bend it up a little once installed with a little heat

[mysticmead]

see... I knew I should have asked you :D

I like the wide stance it has.. I also like the Trex 600 gear.. wider than the stock hurri gear.. and yeas.. the stock gear looks to small for this heli