Blade 400 shaking bad during tic tocs, any suggestions?

[sharpen]

ok so the blade is stable in flight, during loops, rolls, and flips. But when i try to do some tic tocs, its just vibrating real bad, like the head is under intense pressure or something, i have no idea, i have only been flying for like 3 months. I have the head shimmed good, like 5 shims on each side and the step washer, i am using the factory wood blades, don't know if this is the problem or what. Anyway any help would be greatly appreciated, thnx

[skigolfmike]

Can't say about tic-tocs. Last time I tried, I nearly crashed.

[LockMD]

Well just dont do tic-tocs - see how simple that was

Like when you're a kid and say "Mom, my arm hurts when I do this" and she says "well, just dont do that then" :YeaBaby:

[sokal]

might need to post that one in the main general postings
im sure a heli pilot will have you answer

[scolex]

What Gyro are you using? Is there any specific point it starts and/or stops?

[carlo_the_wonder_frog]

I think You have the head shimmed too tight.

[Wolfpackin]

Yup, five shims per side seems like a lot.
The most I've heard of up until you is four per side.
My B400 came with two per and I have since added one for three per side. It feels pretty stiff to me like that.

[buildem336]

On my Blade 400 I put 8 shims on each side to stiffen the head up for 3d the best thing you can do is get rid of the stock wooden blades mine weighed in at 30 grams each the stock woodies are ment for beginners to make the heli very stable. I put a set of hyperion carbon blades with some washers to fit the blade grips and they came in at 18 grams each not only was the 400 super fast the climb out with carbons puts a t-rex 450 to shame. Now I can do tic tocs and side tic tocs all day long Now if you dont want to spend on carbons the align 450 woodies weighed in at 22 grams not as light and fast as carbons but way better and lighter than the stock eflite woodies. This is where I got my blades.

http://www.centerstick.com/HYPERION_CARBON_FIBER_BLADES_p/hp-hmain325c.htm

[Wolfpackin]

buildem.

Any chance you'll get the E-flite 325mm CF blades, so you can test and weigh them for us?
They're available now, EFLH1415C $33.99

Thanks in advance.;)

[buildem336]

As soon as I need another pair of blades I will try to get those to try them out it will probably be a while

[sharpen]

thnx for help guys, yeah i believe the carbon blades will make big difference and also a new 401