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[rupps5]

I am very close to pressing "buy now" in my cart, probably going to be in the next day or two. This is what I have so far, what do you guys think? Should I change anything? This is going to be my first nitro copter and first 50 size.

Which servo from Jr should I use for the throttle?

Kit: Pro RED Canopy
Engine:TT Redline 53
Governor:Multigov with LCD
Muffer:Jason Krause Hatori
Receiver:AR7000
Gyro:JR 770+ 8900 servo
Servos:3 x DS8717
Blades:Radix 600mm
Sullivan Dynatron Super Power Starter
Century REVERSIBLE ONE WAY HEX START WAND
T-REX 600 DELUXE Swashplate Leveler (SILVER) - NEW! (HR1025)
HN6060 Metal Engine Fan
Hitec HS-81 Standard Micro Servo (for carbsmart)
CarbSmart
H60081 Metal Main Rotor Holder

[LJS]

Hi Rupps 5,

The only thing I see is that I wouldn't go with is the 770 3D gyro. I fly the 770 in my Swift and it's only OK. The rest of your equipment looks top notch, why not go with a top notch gyro? I fly the 611 in my 600s and I like them because they hold great and are fully configurable. However, if I had it to do over, I'd go with the Spartan DS760. It also holds great, it is also fully configurable, but it is super small and light. You could still go with the 8900g servo.

The things that I don't like about the JR gyro is that it required two clicks of trim to keep it from drifting (but it has been rock solid since I did that), and the pirouette stops are brutal. There is no delay adjustment to soften the stops.

I also added the metal tail slider as my kit came with plastic.

Otherwise looks good!:thumbup:

Keep 'em flying.:YeaBaby:
LJS

[Bobbyk]

If you are planing on using this then you will have to get HS-56, HS-81 will not fit in there, you don't need a work horse servo for carbsmart.

http://www.readyheli.com/HN6086_00_TREX_600N_Mixture_Servo_Mount_p/hn6086.htm

Just pull the trigger.

Robert.

[TheBum]

Add the Align frame stiffeners. Also, you don't need a wand with a one-way bearing because the 600N's shaft has a one-way; you can save some money that way.

Oh, and the G770/8900 combo is just fine.

[Bobbyk]

and the pirouette stops are brutal. There is no delay adjustment to soften the stops.
LJS

I think you can use the D/R % settings to control that?

Robert

[LJS]

Hi BobbyK,

The D/R adjustment is to control the pirouette rate. However, there is no adjustment for the stops like on my 611s. I was out flying today and did a 540 stall turn and I could just hear the belt snap when I stopped it. I'm amazed that the belt doesn't break.

I'm not the only one to complain about the stops. There are numerous threads on the subject. I have learned to not let go of the sticks during stops, but even trying to buffer it, they're still nasty.

It's certainly not on a par with the 611 or DS760.

Keep 'em flying.:YeaBaby:
LJS

[fiveoboy01]

The 770/8900 is a kick ass combo in my opinion. The stops soften up a little bit if you use expo on the rudder channel. I haven't used the 611 or Spartan and I'm probably not good enough to tell the difference but mine holds the tail like a vise. It does not move unless I tell it to, or if I bog the headspeed. I did a majorly high sideways knife-edge fall the other day and the tail stayed put. Good enough for me:)

To the OP - your list looks good. One thing, you don't need a starter shaft with a one-way, the heli has a one-way built into it. You could save a few bucks by going with a plain shaft.

I'd also go with metal grips for peace of mind and also the frame stiffeners which are cheap at around 9 bucks.

Not sure what JR offers for mini type servos but I've got a Futaba S3155 on my throttle. I had to get a carbon adapter plate because the servo was too small for the opening in the frame.

I see you have some experience flying already... If you want some cyclic speed, get a set of Super Stubz too. They really wake it up.

[rupps5]

I have the 770/3400g combo on my 500 and it seems great, and holds like a rock to me, but I am no extreme 3d pilot. I do know what everyone is talking about, when they talk about the stop rate of the 770. It is violent, I let go of the rudder stick once to see how fast it would stop after a pirouette and it sounded like the pulleys ripped a few teeth off of the belt. I have just learned to go back to center gently now.

I will change my list for a hs-56 for the carbsmart.

How about this starter wand? http://grandrc.com/inc/sdetail/82060 Is that the right one?

Can someone also recommend a fuel pump and some extra glow plugs?

[LJS]

Hi Rupps,

Fuel pumps are an achilles heel in this hobby. I haven't found a really good one. I was using the Hobbico pumps with Slimline CNC fuel jug fittings. I really liked the way everything fit on the jug. However, I've had three of them go out on me. There's nothing worse than driving 15 miles to the field and not being able to pump fuel.

Now I'm using the Dave Brown products Six Shooter with Holster. It is a fool proof design that won't break. But it takes a bit longer to fill the tank. It fits perfectly with my Carl Goldberg fuel tote field box. So I'm happy with it, but someone might have something better.

I don't want to beat a dead horse, but back on the gyros, I feel totally spoiled by my 611 gyros. They fly so awesome and smooth. No argument on the holding power of the JR. She's never let go for me. But a true premium gyro (like the 611 or DS760) is really something special.

Keep 'em flying.:YeaBaby:
LJS

[hamslice]

i have flown the 770, 611, and the 6100t and i will go with the 6100t from now on. you cant beat its performance to its price. the 770 is a good gyro but i like the programming options with the 6100 and the 611. i find it to be a pain that the 611 is also a two unit gyro i like the all in one setups to save weight and the heli looks cleaner too.

[rupps5]

Ok here is the updated list:

Kit: Pro RED Canopy
Engine:TT Redline 53
Governor:Multigov with LCD
Muffer:Jason Krause Hatori
Receiver:AR7000
Gyro:JR 770+ 8900 servo
Servos:3 x DS8717
Blades:Radix 600mm
Sullivan Dynatron Super Power Starter
T-REX 600 DELUXE Swashplate Leveler (SILVER) - NEW! (HR1025)
HN6060 Metal Engine Fan
Hitec HS-56 Standard Micro Servo (for carbsmart)
CarbSmart
H60081 Metal Main Rotor Holder
Dave Brown six shooter fuel pump
OS Bubbleless clunk
G-Force Frame Brace kit
Radio South Pro-Driver MkIII w/Charger





Starter wand?
fuel filter?
fuel lines?



I am going to hold off on the lighter paddles.

Do I really need the frame stiffeners?

[LJS]

Hi Rupps,

I'd go with the OS Bubbleless clunk instead of a header tank. With the CarbSmart, you'll be getting flights that are long enough without adding the weight of the header tank. The OS Bubbleless clunk gets every last drop out of the fuel tank. And it's metal, so it's not susceptible to deterioration from exhaust fumes like the fuel magnet.

Oh, and in case you need a glow driver, here's the best one. It's expensive, but worth it. It adjusts the heat of the glow plug if you flood your engine. It also has lights on it so that you know how it's doing. Most of the guys at our club field use it.

http://www.readyheli.com/Radio_South_Pro_Driver_MkIII_w_Charger_p/radp3110.htm

Keep 'em flying.
LJS

[TheBum]

Do I really need the frame stiffeners?

Need? Not necessarily. However, the CF frame sides are expensive and the stiffeners are good insurance against damage. By the same token, you don't really "need" a few of the other items you listed.

[rupps5]

updated:

Kit: Pro RED Canopy
Engine:TT Redline 53
Governor:Multigov with LCD
Muffer:Jason Krause Hatori
Receiver:AR7000
Gyro:JR 770+ 8900 servo
Servos:3 x DS8717
Blades:Radix 600mm
Sullivan Dynatron Super Power Starter
T-REX 600 DELUXE Swashplate Leveler (SILVER) - NEW! (HR1025)
HN6060 Metal Engine Fan
Hitec HS-56 Standard Micro Servo (for carbsmart)
CarbSmart
H60081 Metal Main Grips
Dave Brown six shooter fuel pump
OS Bubbleless clunk
G-Force Frame Brace kit
Radio South Pro-Driver MkIII w/Charger
ccbec
stepdown for the tail

Do I need to use that readyheli bracket to mount the servo for the carbsmart that was posted above?
fuel filter?
fuel lines?

[emag remrofni]

Go for the MP5 pipe. I don't like the JK one to be honest.

[wrex]

you also dont need an extra main blade holder, as one is included in the kit.
(or are you talking about grips?)

[rupps5]

Go for the MP5 pipe. I don't like the JK one to be honest.

Why


you also dont need an extra main blade holder, as one is included in the kit.



I meant grips


I think I am going to stay with the 770. In the future if I want to upgrade I can use the 770 on my 450 to replace the 401

[TheBum]

Do I need to use that readyheli bracket to mount the servo for the carbsmart that was posted above?
Either that or the Align one.

fuel filter?
If you get one of the latest kits, yes, you'll need one. Align quit including fuel filters.

fuel lines?
Only if you're not comfortable running the stock line. Most people will tell you to get better fuel line, but I'm using the stock with no problems thus far and the owner of my LHS related a story to me of a guy who ran the stock line for 9 months without ever emptying the tank or evacuating exhaust gases from the tank. YMMV.

You may need to get some extra line for fueling the heli.

[DJC]

Looks good to me except for the engine.
I don't know how the Thunder Tiger engines are these days but for not much more you can have a YS or OS Hyper and fly worry free.

Just my .02 cents

[AFjetmech]

Get the longer tail fin to help keep that tail rotor off the ground.

[TheBum]

Get the longer tail fin to help keep that tail rotor off the ground.
Or get some of the 30/50 size K&B tail blades. They're shorter than the T-Rex 600 blades but they seem to work as well as the Align CF tail blades...at least as far as my limited flight capabilities go.

[fiveoboy01]

I'd definitely recommend using some Hayes neoprene fuel tubing. I've heard of the stock pickup line breaking too many times. Like Alan said YMMV but the Hayes line is too cheap NOT to use.

[rupps5]

Ok this is what I got:

Kit: Pro RED Canopy
Engine:TT Redline 53
Governor:Multigov with LCD
Muffer:MP50Q
Receiver:AR7000
Gyro:JR 770+ 8900 servo
Servos:3 x DS8717
Blades:Radix 600mm
Sullivan Dynatron Super Power Starter
T-REX 600 DELUXE Swashplate Leveler (SILVER) - NEW! (HR1025)
HN6060 Metal Engine Fan
Hitec HS-56 Standard Micro Servo (for carbsmart)
CarbSmart
H60081 Metal Main Rotor Holder
Dave Brown six shooter fuel pump
OS Bubbleless clunk
G-Force Frame Brace kit
Radio South Pro-Driver MkIII w/Charger
Hayes neoprene fuel tubing
HN6021 Fuel Filter
HN6086-00 Mixture Servo Mount TREX 600 Nitro

I still need a starter wand....do you just use a 6mm hex wand?

[fiveoboy01]

Yep, 6mm hex shaft. If you're going to use it with the dynatron, you'll need it to have a cylinder thingie on the end to fit in the starter cone, or some sort of adapt-a-thing to attach it. I myself just use an 18V cordless drill.

[LJS]

Hi Rupps,

This is what you want. It's the best. You'll have it forever.:thumbup: And you'll never regret buying it like I do the one I have for the Dynatron cone. The thing that is nice about it is that there is no wobble like you get with the cone models. It's what the top flyers use at my club.

http://www.readyheli.com/S613_Sullivan_6mm_Heli_Starter_Extension_p/sulp1613.htm

The only reason you wouldn't want that one is if you fly planks too.

You're going to have nice starting equipment. That really adds to the joy of the hobby.

Keep 'em flying.:YeaBaby:
LJS