Recomendation for sub micro helicopter

[cambazz]

Hello guys,

I would like a gaiu hurricane 200, but I am kinda inexperienced. been flying a walkera 4#3 lately, based on recomentation I got from this forum - to train myself before buying a gaui.

walkera 4#3 is nice, and i can fly it, but I would not be confortable with a collective pitch gaui yet. So, I want another trainer, that is small enough for indoor flight, but big enough to carry my own servo and electronics.

I have been considering piccolo pro v2 or eco piccolo v2, but I have posted in manyforums about these helicopters and noone answered. I think they are not popular.

Any ideas / recomendations?

Best.

[crabfu]

Sorry I don't know much about the piccolo, or other fp micros. I thought piccolo's a micro, not a sub micro?.... I am only aware of the 4#3 and the micron for the sub micro fp category. I'd love to get a tiny heli for indoors as well :) What about a HB fp ? they seem pretty popular and cheap... but it's not a sub, and I've never flown one so I can't comment on it :)

But if you are just learning, the bigger the easier, I'm sure you've heard many people say that by now. Gaui 200 would be on the hard side to learn on, not because it's cp, but because it's tiny. I'd recommend going with something bigger, mini size that you practice outside. Or better yet, get a really good sim like phoenix, and get a nice tx that you will eventually use for your heli, to practice on the sim with.

-Crabfu

[cambazz]

well I am a software engineer who works very hard and the only flight time I get is at home, so I thats why I am looking for sub micro.

the smaller helicopters are harder to fly as I have experienced that with walkera 4#3

and yes, piccolo is not a sub micro, and I have not been able to find too much info on it.
I have found a micron v2, but only complaints so far.

best


Sorry I don't know much about the piccolo, or other fp micros. I thought piccolo's a micro, not a sub micro?.... I am only aware of the 4#3 and the micron for the sub micro fp category. I'd love to get a tiny heli for indoors as well :) What about a HB fp ? they seem pretty popular and cheap... but it's not a sub, and I've never flown one so I can't comment on it :)

But if you are just learning, the bigger the easier, I'm sure you've heard many people say that by now. Gaui 200 would be on the hard side to learn on, not because it's cp, but because it's tiny. I'd recommend going with something bigger, mini size that you practice outside. Or better yet, get a really good sim like phoenix, and get a nice tx that you will eventually use for your heli, to practice on the sim with.

-Crabfu

[crabfu]

How about a cx? If you want easy indoor flying at home, coaxial helis are going to fit your needs the best. Short of that, anything small enough to safely hover indoors is going to be difficult to learn on... gaui isn't the easiest thing either to start with, and I wouldn't recommend them inside of your home - but they are great for small yards or a big garage. Piccolo or similar size helis probably aren't the safest thing inside either :)

So IMHO, your choices are... 1) keep learning on the walkera inside 2) another SUB micro fp inside, which will probably be just as hard to control as the walkera. 3) settle with a cx inside 4) bigger heli outside 5) sim :)

Personally I'd go with sim and a good tx if you are serious about learning & getting into the hobby. And practice on your walkera, and get a bigger heli for outdoors when you are ready and able to - programmers needs to get out sometimes too :)

-Crabfu

[Gr4yb3ard]

Good Lord!

If you can fly a 4#3, you can fly anything!!
I know all about that one...

You will find the 200 is one quality piece of equipment.
The scale is right on too. It's small enough to fly in smaller spaces, but large enough to do all the neat stuff. Not that I have, or can, I'm still building mine, but I've seen 'em flying.

Parts support is good and getting better. There's lots of interest and aftermarket upgrades coming out.

Very economical to fly, errr, crash, from the look of it. ;-)

All told, I'd say a solid 10 reccomendation. I can't wait to get mine off the ground so I can quit arm-chairing this stuff, but I'm very happy.

HeliHobbie and others have got 'em in stock TODAY. Go buy one right now!!!

Gr4yb3ard
"... ex-software engineer & project manager, turned pirate..."

[Simages]

Cambazz....

I would spend the $$$ on a Gaui either the 200SE or even the 100 Pro Light combo which is around $300 minus tx/rx.

Like Gr4yb3ard said; If you can fly a 4#3, you can fly anything and you'll find the 200 is one quality piece of equipment.......

Go for it!

[Gr4yb3ard]

FWIW, I'm flying indoors with the 200 now, with some new ventures outside as the weather settles.

I probably got really lucky in the setup, but it's beautiful. Much better on the first flights than anything else I've got. This is the heli I wanted to begin with....

Now I've ended up with a 4#3, 200, 450se v2, and 600e. I gave my CPPro to my son-in-law, and the Blade-400 remains my crash test dummy. The 200 is still the best for what I want to do, go buy one and have done with it.

I just ordered parts for my 4#3, I'm rebuilding the head in a last attempt to cure some rather nasty wallows and lack of response.

I can fly pretty well now, but this heli has not been flyable since day one. I got some 1mm carbon stock, and I've experimented with flybars from 70mm to 100mm, as well as putting more flybar weights on. It still just sorta flys in a direction, and I try to catch up (often with full stick throws not doing any good). Any suggestions?, any news on the 4g3??

Gr4ybeard
" ..off topic, but I always end up there.. "

[crabfu]

4#3 is looking rather tempting :)

-Crabfu

[Gr4yb3ard]

Could be fun, but mine's not quite right at this point. A mild takeoff results in sideways flight. Full throttle is better, but eventually it.. just.. goes.. somewhere....

I've checked all the equipment, put the recommended "epoxy mod" on the head. But it just won't go where I want to. Full stick corrections, for seconds at a whack, this is not learning a new ship, it's just not doing what it should.

I've put in new flybars, stock is 70mm, I've done 60, 80 and 100, even put on coils of thin solder wrapped on the 80mm bar. No success.

Last week I ordered parts to overhaul the head, and a couple of batts, we'll see.

I think you're on the same drift I am regarding heli sizing and flying indoors. There's been rumor of a 10" 3d bird coming out. Usually refered to as the 4g3.

Won't replace a 200, but would be a good addition to the fleet 'eh??

Gr4yb3ard
"...how many times can I go off-topic in one day???..."

[mjr_larkin]

Just want to echo that the 200 CAN fly inside but it really wants a small yard or better. I didn't really start having fun with it till I took it to the park

[crabfu]

I dunno what kind of space you guys have inside... but I can't fly in the house, too much stuff around... garage however is a nice practice space, but yeah, small yard or park is awesome.

-Crabfu