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EPBDDSB
05-12-2008, 03:37 PM
Just to put my 2 cents worth in here. Have a HBFP with upgraded skids and that's the only mod I have done. I tweaked the flybar paddles to a little more positive pitch and the only thing that seems to improve the hover is more practice. I get all the altitude I need with the stock motor. Especially at this stage of my heli skills. Practice will make perfect I hope.

kodak_jack
05-14-2008, 03:26 AM
I will give an update on my progress.... I removed the Super Skids and re-installed the stock gear. I also installed a SloMax and 11t pinion. I did the water break-in on the motor prior to installing. NOTE- if you choose the SloMax motor remember to sand the shaft w/ sandpaper so that the pinion will be removeable otherwise you will have to drive it on w/ a mallet!

The heli hovers great after this. I have not re-installed the skids, but I plan to. It will hover at near eye level at a tad less than half throttle. I can't say that the problem was the weight of the skids, I think it was a bad motor. I crashed yesterday and broke the head (first crash w/ irrepairable damage) so I will probably re-install the skids as an experiment. I am currently working on side-in hover and the heli got away from me.........

Brian
Intsalling the Slo-Max is another science project. Everybody has an opinion and it involves several variables: motor, weight, blades, battery = pinion size to use. Gray blades = 10 or 11 tooth pinion while M-24 blades = 9 tooth pinion. Even with the battery, 2 cells and 3 cells could mean different pinions. Using a set screw to secure the pinion makes it rub the frame unless you take it down a little. Others prefer to push the pinion on and not use a set screw. :confused:

northcarolinadan
05-22-2008, 09:46 AM
another thing you can do is advance the timing on the stock brushed motor, just turn the back of the can clockwise just a bit to get more power, if you do a search over in RCG forum you can find this..

my FP with compy frame, stock motors i get 9 minutes flight time with super skids 850mah battery putting back around 570 mah into the battery.

before i did the timing advance it was like 4-5 minutes.

( all with 0 to1degree pitch on the paddles )

GTX_SlotCar
05-29-2008, 03:01 AM
Hey Gary.. tell the guys we need a modified version of the superskids for the Freestyle belted tail HBFP..
there are literally NO good skids for this setup on the market at all.
I'm tired of buying the crap gear from Walkera (they are the toughest option at the moment)

I tried to find some good, close up pictures (at different angles) of the Freestyle setup attaching to the HBFP frame, but I just couldn't see enough. It looks like the stock SuperSkids mounts should work but the top center section may have to be cut out (at least on the rear mount) to clear the Freestyle boom. It's also possible that the landing gear would attach directly to the Freestyle bottom plate (fiber?), but I can't tell for sure and I don't know if that setup would be tall enough so the tail would sit high enough. If it does, the SuperSkids400 would work. I'm not sure which Walkera landing gear you're using, but if it's 22E gear, then our 22E adapter for the SuperSkids400 would probably work, too. The adapters should be available in about 3 weeks.
Prototype adapters are shown in this picture, but I don't know how well you can see them.

Five-oh-Joe
05-30-2008, 07:41 PM
I've been reading a post here and there in this thread, and I must say, my super skids do not prevent me from taking off at all. I notice that my battery gets drained faster since the motor must work harder to get off the ground, but overall, it still is lifting off and a decent amount of distance from the ground at half throttle, so not too bad.

I have an all stock setup with the exception of a slightly longer flybar paddle (didn't have a replacement one handy, so I used some scrap rod cut down a little), and an aluminum flybar paddle frame from xtreme.

I'm out for about 10 minutes messin' around and learning to fly before it's time to take it back inside for a recharge.