No pre-order, where to buy?

[oldskool]

The title says it all. Where should I get one now that they are shipping next week?

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

Send me the money and I will take care of it for you.:tongue

[invertmast]

until all the pre-orders are shipped out.. i dont think you'll be getting one... but i could be wrong.

[WillJames]

RC-Direct would be my first call.

[oldskool]

Yeah, really just curious. I would like to order one, but I've got too see what crash parts cost. $25 main shafts are why I fly Align and not MA....

[ClayK]

Anyone that thinks flying a .90 sized helicopter will be cheap or comparable to flying a .50 doesn't know or understand the differences. Not saying that's you, but there are big differences between the two sizes and their respective pricing groups.

[oldskool]

Ummm Heliproz lists $27 mainshafts. Not looking good for my Avant aspirations...

I know that Avant stuff will be higher than Align, no doubt. I further know that 90 sized gear will be more than 50 sized gear, no doubt.

But are we talking 20% more, 50% more, 100% more??? By scanning the HP parts list it seems we're talking up to 200% more...

Long time ago (90's)I used to fly X-cell/MA before the furys/tempest/stratuses were out. The kits were 1150-1400. And they wren't cheap to crash either. BUT I was kind of hoping from tag lines like "affordable hard-core with style", that we'd be seeing cost of ownership type parts going for somewhat less than MA/Synergy prices.

Doesn't mean I still won't get one. :)


Edit: I thought of a solution: I just won't crash!

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

When I need a Mainshaft for my Logo 6003D it's $34 I can save a little and get the non hardened for $18

[HFG]

People demand performance but arn't willing to pay for it. People will complain about align parts until the cows come home then turn around and bit*h about MA/Mikado/... parts costing so much more than their beloved align parts.

[LITHIUMSTATIC]

I learned before I ever bought my Logo 6003D that quality costs..... and it shows in the fit of parts during the build and in the way it flies.

[jimheliboy]

People demand performance but arn't willing to pay for it. People will complain about align parts until the cows come home then turn around and bit*h about MA/Mikado/... parts costing so much more than their beloved align parts.

Some people like to vent more than others.....Check on Robbe prices....I love my MilliPro III! It is like having a child, can't afford it but you might end up with one. There are way to many factors to say from one manufacturer to another why costs are so different. There have been out sourcing the manufacture of products just because the U.S. stuck a 25% tax to make it here. I remember Nortel back in the late 70's beat out many ITT, North Electric and other American Central Office Switching Equipment Companies by virtue of this tax. Who is Nortel? (Bell of Canada). We are just now catching on what and why there is Out Sourcing..... We need to talk to Washington and get their system cleaned up. Enough babbling on. I want and can afford an Aurora. The Kids are out and on their own for the most part! More funds for HeliBabies....

[EBCooper]

I understand 90's are going to cost more but the cost of parts like main shafts don't make sense to me. Why should any 90 size heli mainshaft cost 5 times as much as a 50 size heli? I don't get it, its just bigger. Do the materials and manufacturing really cost that much more or are they just marking them up higher because they know they can. I'm not *****ing, I just don't understand.

[HFG]

They dont sell as many 90 parts as they do 50 parts, simple mass production.

[Dood]

Ummm Heliproz lists $27 mainshafts.


http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w155/DJB78_bucket/helicopter%20stuff/P1010085.jpg

Here's an Aurora mainshaft.
You can see that it's not your everyday typical garden variety mainshaft.
There is a little more to it than a piece of steel with holes on each end.

I'm already pretty well stocked up on Aurora spares, so my first 3 or 4 crashes aren't going to hurt too badly.

[fireup]

Looks like a Vibe mainshaft.:)

[oldskool]

Hey since when did this turn into "The Avant is not worth the money" thread? I certainly think that the quality of this heli on par if not better than Synergy, MA, Mikado, etc. Therefore it is not unreasonable to have the prices in that range. My point was simply that I wish it was going to be somewhat more affordable than some of the other 90's out there.

And don't be Align hatin' just because we're in the Avant forum. It's a different category of heli. I love mine and don't care that slop developes quickly -- I'm likely to have to change out those parts anyway due to mishaps rather than waiting around for them to develop slop/play.

[Dood]

Hey since when did this turn into "The Avant is not worth the money" thread?
You started it when you brought up crash costs.

[oldskool]

The implication was that I might not be able to afford it, not that it wouldn't be worth it!

[rotorhead58d]

bickering over heli's that you can't even buy yet. pffft!

[john m]

Quote from Avant

"People in those threads kept mentioning other helis like the Synergy or the hyper-expensive boutique-type Avro as competitors to the Aurora and miss the point that we are not competing against those helicopters. This is a program for a product that will compete in the price level of a R90SE or other lower priced 90s. Granted, the product is a lot more refined and would only be comparable with very upgraded versions of helis at that low priced level but that's beside the point so let them play catch-up."

I did the direct comparative costs and found the prices no where near the above mentioned "cheaper 90’s" . FYI I have owned the first two mentioned so please compare it for yourself, very interesting….

I was looking for another 90 heli however now settled on a Vibe 50 to get me back into some flying after 6 months off. Pick it up next week, can’t wait.


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[LITHIUMSTATIC]

Quote from Avant

"People in those threads kept mentioning other helis like the Synergy or the hyper-expensive boutique-type Avro as competitors to the Aurora and miss the point that we are not competing against those helicopters. This is a program for a product that will compete in the price level of a R90SE or other lower priced 90s. Granted, the product is a lot more refined and would only be comparable with very upgraded versions of helis at that low priced level but that's beside the point so let them play catch-up."


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How old is this quote because if this said during the R&D of the heli then things change do to improvements on prototypes.

[john m]

I believe about 5 months ago when boxes where being packed and parts where in stock at the local US shops so apparently not R&D stage.

Looks like I’m not the only one confused...I attached the quote as this could explain why people are trying to compare it cost wise to Align.

Did some homework for the UK and that is why I settled for a 50 in the end...Just cannot afford the higher priced helis at this stage.

H.E.B / Aurora
Main Mast £18.49 £18.75
Flybar £9.99 £9.99
F spindle £8.99 £8.99
Canopy £64.50 £54.99
TT Shaft £15.75 £19.99
Boom £13.61 £29.00
Tail out sh £5.95 £8.50
Tail Hub £10.25 £13.75
Land skid £11.99 £10.50
Land struts £11.99 £10.50


Total £171.51 £184.96

Tried it with the Raptor 90SE as well however I have already owned one so not that interested this time around, the Vibe 50 was a little different.

[Dood]

How old is this quote because if this said during the R&D of the heli then things change do to improvements on prototypes.

Jeremy, that was from March 8th last year, on the AvantRC/support site.


John, I like FuturaSE's reply on that same thread. He makes a quick comparison between the Avant and Synergy.
He's right about the Synergy, getting way less bling for the buck.
The kit's are almost the exact same price.

That's for sure. Unless Augusto gold plates everything on his machine there is no way it can cost what the Synergy does!!! I mean the little plastic bracket to hold the vertical fin on is over $30 for a PLASTIC PART on the Synergy!!!!!! It isn't very big either or even complex for that matter!!!!

The Synergy was to be a "affordable" heli Jason and Todd swore up and down in the beginning. Either they had no idea of realistic costs or someone got greedy. I'll assume the first and give them the benefit of the doubt.

This machine has carbon frames not G10 which is tons cheaper, it has metal blade grips not plastic and carbon boom and not alum and on and on. EVEN if it DID cost as much as a Synergy at least you are getting much more for your money. That takes a lot of sting away. Not all, but it helps to get machined metal rather than molded plastic at least to me.

Norman Ross Jr.