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MrMel
05-02-2008, 10:34 AM
I hate to drag my nitro's to the field just to practice on actrobatic autos, since I as of today dont have a good way to bail on autos with the jazz.

Anyone have a viable way to do it with the Jazz? Use the progcard to set 6s spoolup time, and perhaps have throttle hold only go to a very low percentage? (motor still spinning)

How do you do it?

Team-MAYHEM
05-02-2008, 11:14 AM
Ha ha ha...not a chance Mel. I tried the other day and no go.

MrMel
05-02-2008, 11:18 AM
hmm, I guess airplane mode + external multi governor is only way to do it, to bad since the gov pretty much suck compared to the internal Jazz governor in terms of performance.

dahld
05-02-2008, 01:27 PM
Speaking from years of nitro experience, most auto bailouts are a panic maneuver. Maybe not at first while you're learning, because you enter the auto with the intent on bailing out early. But later on when your doing them for fun, the bailouts are the last second solution to a poorly set-up auto. That being said, if you could get an immediate spool-up with an electric by flipping a switch and jamming the collective stick up, (panic maneuver, with no clutch and no time lag it takes for the nitro motor to respond), we'd just strip the gears out and have to finish the auto anyway :shock:.

It's just about the only thing I really DON'T like about electrics....

Take care, Dave.

MrMel
05-02-2008, 01:29 PM
Speaking from years of nitro experience, most auto bailouts are a panic maneuver.

I disagree, Im talking about acrobatic autos, when learning for sample piro-flip autos its must since you need to break down the manouver and test each step.

Stripping gears can prevented if you can control spoolup speed.

Klinger
05-02-2008, 05:22 PM
I use the 6 second spoolup time as well and have bailed out of auto's without to much drama. You just need to decide a bit earlier, flick the sw and keep like -1 to +1 degrees on it and after about 4 seconds you can start giving more pitch, I've managed to bail at like 20' and managed to fly out of it!

BruceW
05-02-2008, 07:24 PM
I have the 12 second spoolup and have recovered after getting a brown-out on my AR7000 (several times due to overloading my BEC from dumb thumbing the collective) that caused the Jazz to restart from 0. Even with only 30 feet off the ground and inverted I was able to get enough spin up to keep it from going in. It doesn't take much HS to get lift on the Logo.

wlfk
05-02-2008, 10:08 PM
It doesn't take much HS to get lift on the Logo.

I once tried taking off whilst not quite spooled up (CCHV85) just to see whether there was enough lift at that headspeed. What I hadn't considered was that I didn't have enough tail authority to stay steady. Cue wild piro for a second or two. Gyro was a 401 + 9254. Setup seems to work fine (e.g. in rate mode) the rest of the time.

Not fun.

I've certainly bailed on autos with my 450, and I get some twitching of the tail. But nothing too alarming - which is why I wasn't expecting it.

K