green loctite

[mysticmead]

where can I et green loctite? I haven't seen it on readyheli or any of the other online shops.. my LHS only carries blue

[huskynox]

You gotta be careful with this one, some hobby shops will try to sell you the WRONG "green" stuff, usually the thread penetrating stuff.

The real bearing retaining green stuff is 640, which ISN'T cheap!

See attached:

[mcnabbwr]

Local hardware, Home Depot or Lowes carry's loctite.

[C R Mudgeon]

try mcmaster carr

www.mcmaster.com (http://www.mcmaster.com)

search for loctite 640

[mysticmead]

WTF??!! $33 for a 50ml bottle.. that stuff should apply itself and cleanup the mess afterwards at that price.

[marchambault]

I may be wrong, but I think Align ships their kits with a medium viscocity retainer, such as Loctite 680 ... http://65.213.72.112/tds5/docs/680-EN.pdf

It's readily available in auto parts store, usually about $20 for way more than you will ever need.

It can also be found in smaller quantities

http://www.greathobbies.com/productinfo/?prod_id=LOC68015

[huskynox]

Yeah, the Align green stuff works. I've used it, and it IS cheap!

[mysticmead]

to bad my LHS doesn't carry it...they carry the rest of the align stuff though.. Hobby Town seems to pick and chose what they'll carry from month to month

[xodarap1]

Hobby Town seems to pick and chose what they'll carry from month to monthyeah.. and in my case it always seems to be whatever i need when i walk in their door is what they either don't stock, or are out of heheh.. :)
I solved the problem though.. i stopped walking in their door. :YeaBaby:

[xodarap1]

I know this doesn't really apply here heli wise because it's a mod for another heli, but since it's kind of thread locker realated..

I'm replacing the main gear on my shark 450 with a honey bee king2 main gear. I'm having problems with the owb slipping where it meets the plastic gear. I'm going to try epoxy instead of using the red or green thread locker to see if it will be strong enough.

[mysticmead]

you can try shoe goop too...

[xodarap1]

I've heard of that, but don't have that here. I do have some gorilla glue though.

[marchambault]

I'm not sure about gorilla glue, it expands by a factor of 4 and could jam the bearings. Plus would it be removable?

I found these sellers on ebay which offers the Align retaining compound.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Align-Corp-Holdtite-Anaerobics-Retainer-R48-T22_W0QQitemZ310005957529QQihZ021QQcategoryZ34056Q QrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp163 8Q2em118Q2el1247

http://cgi.ebay.ca/HOLDTITE-Anaerobics-Retainer-K10291A_W0QQitemZ160201388089QQihZ006QQcategoryZ34 056QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZ p1638Q2em118Q2el1247

[ukgroucho]

WTF??!! $33 for a 50ml bottle.. that stuff should apply itself and cleanup the mess afterwards at that price.

You just "stated the issue" - or part of it.
A 50ml bottle is HUGE - REALLY huge given the amount of this stuff that we use for (e.g.) ensuring that one-way bearings don't slip.

For the way that we use it this is a lifetime supply - providing it does not 'go off'. I bought oneo f these bottles and it is a monster... but it does work - exactly as you would expect.

It's a shame that they do not sell 5ml bottles for hobby use.. the 50ml bottle is aimed at people who are assembling engines or whatever.

[marchambault]

It's a shame that they do not sell 5ml

What's wrong with 10 ml? (see my first post in this thread)

The Align bottles are about 2-3 ml

[mcnabbwr]

The shoe goop can be picked up at home depot, it is in the plumbing department and is sold by the name of Amazing Goop. It comes in a purple 110ml tube and is around 5 bucks. Do not use the gorilla glue you will not get it apart if need be.

[mysticmead]

you can also find goop at walmart.. in the plumbing section OR in the sewing /craft section

[xodarap1]

Yes, the gorilla glue does expand quite a bit which is why i used the epoxy for this test. I'm not worried about ever removing it because when it fails or the gear gets chewed up, they will go in the trash can. I was only doing this as an experiment to see if epoxy would hold up. I did some test flights tonight with it (the shark 450) and the epoxy held up fine. The owb works and there is no slip on full punches. I like that I can now use the honey bee king2 gears on the 450 instead of waiting for art-tech to stock their main gears. Buying one common gear thats always in stock is much better. :)

[ukgroucho]

WHY are we talking about 'goop'?... The whole point of using a specific adhesive for a specific task is to get the best performance and lowest amount of 'issues' (expansion, clogging, etc.).

For goodness sake you can use any type of glue to TRY (repeat TRY) to glue / secure anything - but the point is that the RIGHT stuff will work. Metal to metal, plastic to metal, metal to plastic, metal to metal but 'breakable. There is an entire industry that creates adhesives to address (or try to address) our needs.. and you're all falling back on a readily available "goo" for your hi-tech models.

I'm astonished.. people will whine about folks that purchase cheap LiPos "You HAVE to buy TP or PQ or Hyperion or XXX" - but they bodge their helis togetherwith whatever glue comes to hand.

[C R Mudgeon]

BTW I check on my bench I use the loctite 603 green retainer. Which is $12 a bottle for more than you'll ever need at McMaster

[mysticmead]

WHY are we talking about 'goop'?... The whole point of using a specific adhesive for a specific task is to get the best performance and lowest amount of 'issues' (expansion, clogging, etc.).

For goodness sake you can use any type of glue to TRY (repeat TRY) to glue / secure anything - but the point is that the RIGHT stuff will work. Metal to metal, plastic to metal, metal to plastic, metal to metal but 'breakable. There is an entire industry that creates adhesives to address (or try to address) our needs.. and you're all falling back on a readily available "goo" for your hi-tech models.

I'm astonished.. people will whine about folks that purchase cheap LiPos "You HAVE to buy TP or PQ or Hyperion or XXX" - but they bodge their helis togetherwith whatever glue comes to hand.

well... shoe goop does have it's place in heli's too. a thin layer (real thin) will keep bearings from spinning in place.. works great where plastic frames and bearings meet.
the reason goop was brought up in the first place was as a suggestion as an alternative to using epoxy on a completely different heli. just because it might not be made just for the purpose at hand doesn't mean that it's inferior.

[xodarap1]

WHY are we talking about 'goop'?... The whole point of using a specific adhesive for a specific task is to get the best performance and lowest amount of 'issues' (expansion, clogging, etc.).Yup and on topic, the 640 threadlocker works well.

I didn't mean to cause anyone any anxiety.. and wasn't trying to find a better product and wasn't downplaying the threadlockers that we know work well. I just like to tinker and experiment as well as fly. I when I can't fly or work, I like to mod and try new things from time to time, different customized mix and match parts from different helis, making frames and canopies stronger etc. I was just shooting the breeze. I apologize.

[mysticmead]

no problem here.. if we didn't try new things, then we'd be at the mercy of the companies that made the things we need. I've been toying with different ideas on how to make the bleach bottle canopies stronger.. think a single layer of fiberglass would works wonders :D

[Pinecone]

You don't need 640. 638 or 609 work well and are cheaper.

http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=220112

10ml will lat a LONG time. You only use a tiny amount.