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jimzpsd
05-03-2008, 11:10 PM
Well, I finally did it..................:arggg:, $75.00 in parts w/o servo's and gyro:arggg::arggg:. After I made my parts list I hooked up the batt. to check for servo damage, and , yes, they are all stripped, but at zero throttle the gyro is making a noise like constant scratching, but goes away w/a small amount of throttle input, .....is the gyro shot too w/it making this sound? I know most of you will recommend an upgrade here too, so lets have some model no.'s please. My parts are on order, minus the elctronics, but I'll fly again.
Thanks,
Jim
carlo_the_wonder_frog
05-03-2008, 11:26 PM
Servos cyclic 3 Hitec HS65MG or if you really wanna spend some cash 3 JR DS285mg
Servo tail rotor: Futaba 9650 or 9257 or JR DS3400 or JR DS3500
Gyro: Futaba 401, JR770, Spartan gyro, logictech 2100.
HeliMix
05-03-2008, 11:34 PM
Sorry to hear about the crash Jim.
Glad to hear your gonna saddle back up. Giddy-up! :fly
jimzpsd
05-03-2008, 11:35 PM
Ball park on how much for the above mentioned, and is there something in "kit" form?
jimzpsd
05-03-2008, 11:39 PM
Sorry to hear about the crash Jim.
Glad to hear your gonna saddle back up. Giddy-up! :fly
Thanks,.........I knew it was coming sooner or later, thirty four days w/o a crash...................... I was just FF to the left of me and I must have #!%!! up some how while turning around, its a sad feeling too, when I would crash my HBFP, I would laugh or get mad, but never sad. :arggg::arggg::arggg:
HeliMix
05-03-2008, 11:54 PM
My first crash, I picked up the heli, brought it inside and didn't look at it till the next day. Was probably a good thing or else I may have cried, then got mad and borke something. Next crash, I basically laughed and called myself stupid. Waiting for the third one. :lol:
carlo_the_wonder_frog
05-04-2008, 12:00 AM
$200 for all that stuff, $320 if you go with the JR stuff.
jimzpsd
05-04-2008, 12:25 AM
$200 for all that stuff, $320 if you go with the JR stuff.
:wow2: ......................................thank you,...... btw, are just the gears replaceable in the stock servo's? I'm a newbie that doesn't deserve the good stuff yet, so I might as well keep breaking the oem.
supersport
05-04-2008, 01:09 AM
Crap.. You guys are good. :hug:
I've had mine 2 weeks and we have replaced 3 sets on main blades, 3 main shafts, landing legs (today) and a few small parts....
For fun I upgraded the gyro and the tail servo.
I look at it as each crash I just upgrade to better parts... :nanabobo
Maybe this week I'll get it more then a foot off the ground and break something worth talking about..... :whip
jimzpsd
05-04-2008, 02:18 AM
Crap.. You guys are good. :hug:
I've had mine 2 weeks and we have replaced 3 sets on main blades, 3 main shafts, landing legs (today) and a few small parts....
For fun I upgraded the gyro and the tail servo.
I look at it as each crash I just upgrade to better parts... :nanabobo
Maybe this week I'll get it more then a foot off the ground and break something worth talking about..... :whip
Awww, your just trying to make me feel better. I can handle the mechanical stuff, its just the electrical stuff, $$$$$$$$$$$$$
HeliMix
05-04-2008, 02:33 AM
are just the gears replaceable in the stock servo's?
Yes they are. LHS or online. Fairly easy. Just take them off in order and set them down so you know what order the new ones go back on. Most all gears are completely different except... There are two that look alike, and they may be, but there is a tiny difference on the back of them. It is in the pattern of the plastic. Easy to miss is you are not looking for it. And make sure the grease you use when you rebuild them is plastic friendly. I had to rebuild the front three. The nose comes out rather easy but the other two are a little tight. Be careful when you pop them out as to not damage the wires. Also, when you open the cases there are four screws as I am sure you have seen. The back cover will also come off like the top does. The case is a box with two tops. On the wire is a black piece of rubber that keeps the wire from pulling out of the servo. It has a groove that the case bites to hold it in place. It it comes completely off the mainbody/chassis, it can be a pain to get back in place. For me, one was easy and one was not. I tried not to let it come out at all, but grease, tiny servo, it is hard (well, not that hard). But you can get it back into place so it is not a big deal. Put it back together, grease it, hold the case with your fingers before you put the screws back in and give it a test turn or two. Works? Put the screws in, wipe the case down and pop it back in. I think that covered it all. Just pay attention as you disassemble; be organized, examine before you do (like cutting wood, measure three times and cut once), watch those two similar gears and you should be good. I did not cut wire ties either. There was just enough slack to do it without getting that involved.
Putting the horns back on and such I will leave up to one of the more experienced mechanic/pilots. I too am new, but I have stripped servos, rebuilt them, and she is flying fine. ;)
HeliMix
05-04-2008, 02:54 AM
BTW, I rebuilt them for the same reason. I expect it to happen again, and probably again, etc. I rebuilt three for the price of one complete servo basically. Can't beat it.
jimzpsd
05-04-2008, 09:35 AM
BTW, I rebuilt them for the same reason. I expect it to happen again, and probably again, etc. I rebuilt three for the price of one complete servo basically. Can't beat it.
;) Thanks Pal, :noteworthy, you made my day. I'm kind of concerned about the gyro making that sound, hopefully its reacting to a no signal from the tail being out.
HeliMix
05-04-2008, 09:46 AM
If it was me, I would be hoping the same about the gyro, because I would have no idea whyit was making that noise either. ;)
carlo_the_wonder_frog
05-04-2008, 10:12 AM
BTW, I rebuilt them for the same reason. I expect it to happen again, and probably again, etc. I rebuilt three for the price of one complete servo basically. Can't beat it.
Is it fun to take the servos all out and disconnect everything and then rebuild the servos and re setup all your cyclic again? Wouldn't it be better to have a more robust servo that doesn't break so you wouldn't have to waste so much time?
HeliMix
05-04-2008, 10:44 AM
Well, for me, being a newbie I like to remove variables. Keeping with stock parts I know there is compatibility and also that [arts should fit without modification. Getting started, I do not want to get to deep into tweaks just yet. Once I get more of the hobby down, sure, I will be tweaking. And like I told him, I bought three rebuild kits for the price of one stock servo, not a hop up servo. Big savings in money, and when you are expecting to crash more, why not save money. Besides, gas here is HIGH. I need that extra change to drive to the flying club and the LHS to buy more parts.... After I crash again. ;)
Now that said, IF the part was why I was crashing, I would considered doing the upgrade. But right now, stock parts are doing me fine. If I crash right now, it is due to pilot error, not faulty parts.
But again, that is just me.
jimzpsd
05-04-2008, 10:48 AM
Well, for me, being a newbie I like to remove variables. Keeping with stock parts I know there is compatibility and also that [arts should fit without modification. Getting started, I do not want to get to deep into tweaks just yet. Once I get more of the hobby down, sure, I will be tweaking. And like I told him, I bought three rebuild kits for the price of one stock servo, not a hop up servo. Big savings in money, and when you are expecting to crash more, why not save money. Besides, gas here is HIGH. I need that extra change to drive to the flying club and the LHS to buy more parts.... After I crash again. ;)
Now that said, IF the part was why I was crashing, I would considered doing the upgrade. But right now, stock parts are doing me fine. If I crash right now, it is due to pilot error, not faulty parts.
But again, that is just me.
Well said :thumbup: