Gaui...Easier to crash?

[J-Heli]

Most everyone here that has a Gaui 200, has another heli right? Well if so, do you find the Gaui less crushing to crash. I have a T-Rex 450 se v2, and when I crash my Gaui, I'm a little less upset than when I crash my Gaui. Does anyone else feel that way, or have I been drinking WAY too much lately ;)?

[Gr4yb3ard]

I see what your getting at Heli Cuzz, and sure, since it's easy to work on (despite the teensy parts), and the supply of spares has gotten pretty good, you don't mind so much.

It's also a clean design, without a lot of squirrelly bits and added features, so when stuff breaks, it's usually neccessary stuff.

And too, If you have a chance to get soft grass or something to crash on, lots of times it seems to survive miraculously, the result of the light weight and lots of drag.

Try this one on as well:
600 right frame $90
Align blades $85
Spindle $4.95
Blade grip $32
10s battery $290

Total for this trip $ 501.95

Gr4yb3ard
"...I think I'm not drinking enough..."

[crabfu]

Yeah. Well I'm less upset crashing the gaui because I do it so often lol, so it's not as big of a deal. I fly a trex 450 as well, and also the tt mini titan, nothing bigger than that. I think when I crash the bigger helis I'm not more upset, but it's just a bigger deal. Cost wise it's not a huge difference between gaui 200 and 400 size helis, but I'm scared of loosing control of the bigger ones and cause some freak accident. 200... no problem, I'm more relaxed about it... if I crash it, I crash it, it's part of the package, it's just not as intimidating.

-Crabfu

[psindrup]

A lot!

I don't care at all when I crash the Gaui 200. I just pick it up and go home and fix it. 3 "crashes" - total repair cost so far, around 25 kroner ($5,-)

I am so s..t scared to crash my T-rex 500 that I am not even able to do a decent figure of eights after 68 flights, and I haven't even piro'ed it yet.


Peter

[rotorhead58d]

A lot!

I don't care at all when I crash the Gaui 200. I just pick it up and go home and fix it. 3 "crashes" - total repair cost so far, around 25 kroner ($5,-)

I am so s..t scared to crash my T-rex 500 that I am not even able to do a decent figure of eights after 68 flights, and I haven't even piro'ed it yet.


Peter

i've considered taking some lessons.

[t-driver]

A lot!

I don't care at all when I crash the Gaui 200. I just pick it up and go home and fix it. 3 "crashes" - total repair cost so far, around 25 kroner ($5,-)

I am so s..t scared to crash my T-rex 500 that I am not even able to do a decent figure of eights after 68 flights, and I haven't even piro'ed it yet.


Peter

same here,
although i have a raptor 90 and not a t-rex.
it seems i'm too afraid to try new stuff on the raptor,so i got the h200 to crash (a lot) before crashing the raptor on new stuff...

[JASON671]

whats the average crash cost of a gaui 200?

[psindrup]

whats the average crash cost of a gaui 200?

Mine has been approx. 50 cents. :nanabobo
4 screws for the main blade grips and one feathering shaft. :thumbup:

Peter

[stoatnchips]

Jason, my 200's eaten dirt/concrete/steel 3 times now and i have taken out 6 main grip bolts *60c*, 2 sets of mixing arms*$32*, 3 main grips(1&1/2 sets) *$37*, 3 flybars*$6*, 2 paddles*$6* & 1 set of gears on a servo*$3*... forget the gears.. i did that in rage after a crash :oops:
At a guess thats about $30US per crash... which i'm so much happier with than my Shuttle!! Stange thing is i have not damaged a tail boom, foam blades, spindle shaft.. in fact any of the standard stuff that used to go on my Nitro Helis!!:confused:
I think that Gaui need to re-design the mixing arms on the 200... the wall thickness arround the threaded bolt holes is just too thin!! Even now i can see stress marks from the last crash and if the heli was any bigger i would change them for saftey's sake!... Having said that, i'm sure Gaui's happy with the arms being so weak.. Kerching$$ ;)

[psindrup]

Sto...

It seems as if you crash quite a bit harder than me.

I always fly on/over grass and it makes the "landings"/crashes much softer.

What mixer arms are you braking?
The ones directly attached to the main blade grips with the two ball links?

Peter

Peter

[stoatnchips]

Peter, you're right about the arms... they are the ones that bolt directly onto the Main Blade grips. To be fair my crashes were not light...but certainly not impressive either!! My first crash was inside and i hit the headboard on my bed... thought i could use my bed as helipad to set the puppy up... The next crash was into grass and it survived ok-ish... the last one was into concrete... but it took time to spot i had done so much damage!! I think its down to the rate at which the blades deccelerate... if it not too bad, you just damage the grip bolts... if its almost instantanious then the Main grips and Mixing arms go too. I'd bet there are others out there that are flying with damaged arms and grips without knowing, coz its so hard to spot. You need to look VERY carfully and check the 2 balls are perfectly parallel.. then look at the tip of the grips and check its not twisted. I was looking around some of the US sites and it seems that everyone has sold out of these arms or just don't stock them!! Anyone else find these arms go too often other than Rotorhead who advised me of them in the first place?

[rotorhead58d]

don't forget about tail booms too. i break them almost every time i crash

[SurfCity]

Peter, you're right about the arms... they are the ones that bolt directly onto the Main Blade grips.

I believe the arms you're talking about are the see-saw arms. They're in stock right now at All e RC (http://www.allerc.com/product_info.php?products_id=3433) in Mesa, Arizona. My crash stripped both balls right out of their holes and bent one of the short arms. And you're right; there's not much metal around the hole.

[SurfCity]

when I crash my Gaui, I'm a little less upset than when I crash my Gaui. Does anyone else feel that way, or have I been drinking WAY too much lately ;-)?

My Gaui is the only serious helicopter I've ever had, and I HATE to crash it. My other heli is a Blade CX2, on which I learned my orientations, but like you guys said, the Gaui is a very different bird. So I have a lot to learn. Currently I'm strictly tail-in, trying to hold a decent hover. Can't keep it in a five-foot circle yet, much less over a CD case, but I'm improving.

I was in my driveway yesterday, light breeze, and the heli rose over my head. This would have been okay, but just then an unexpected breeze pushed it behind me, and that was just disorienting enough that I zigged when I should have zagged and slammed it hard onto the concrete. It was my fault. Having it get behind me reversed the sticks, which I can handle just fine on the Blade but was too much too soon on this little bird that I can't even hover yet, especially because it was unexpected.

But I REALLY don't like it. Guys talk about the inevitability of crashing, but I'm reluctant to accept it. Years ago when I was training for my pilot's license, we NEVER talked about the inevitability of crashing. Crashing was not an option. We talked only about the possibility of it, then we applied ourselves methodically, systematically, slowly, carefully and trained incrementally to make sure we would never crash.

Same thing with a motorcycle. Crashing is not an option. So why should we accept crashing the little heli? Worse, why would we expect it? Why can't we be methodical? Why can't we stay focused? Why can't we stay within our realm of control?

Anyway, I'm sure I'm a little edgy about now, but that's my attitude, that's my goal. Master the helicopter. Don't crash. Not this heli, not any heli.

[J-Heli]

My Gaui is the only serious helicopter I've ever had, and I HATE to crash it. .

I know how you feel. I really do. The only other heli I had before my T-Rex was a E-Sky Robins R22 so the I'm still really uptight about crashing my T-Rex which is why I think that I feel crashing my Gaui is a little easier. It's not my T-Rex so it's not that bad, if you catch my drift. It's not that I like crashing at all, because I don't but I think that it's sort of a perspective thing.

But I REALLY don't like it. Guys talk about the inevitability of crashing, but I'm reluctant to accept it. Years ago when I was training for my pilot's license, we NEVER talked about the inevitability of crashing. Crashing was not an option. We talked only about the possibility of it, then we applied ourselves methodically, systematically, slowly, carefully and trained incrementally to make sure we would never crash.

Same thing with a motorcycle. Crashing is not an option. So why should we accept crashing the little heli? Worse, why would we expect it? Why can't we be methodical? Why can't we stay focused? Why can't we stay within our realm of control?

Anyway, I'm sure I'm a little edgy about now, but that's my attitude, that's my goal. Master the helicopter. Don't crash. Not this heli, not any heli.

I know what you mean. I feel the same way. I would rather take things slow and not crash as often, but take a little longer to learn something. That's just the way I am. I'm sort of in between where you are coming from and where most people are coming from. I'm sort of, keywords, sort of excepting that I will crash, but will do everything in my power to avoid that. I'm going to let worrying about crashing ruin this hobby for me, but I'm not just going to except that it's going to happen and be sloppy about things.

[psindrup]

But I REALLY don't like it. Guys talk about the inevitability of crashing, but I'm reluctant to accept it. Years ago when I was training for my pilot's license, we NEVER talked about the inevitability of crashing. Crashing was not an option. We talked only about the possibility of it, then we applied ourselves methodically, systematically, slowly, carefully and trained incrementally to make sure we would never crash.


That is exactly how I feel about my T-rex 500!

I have flown it more than 60 times, and I have never crashed it, but - and there is a big but to it - I do not have the balls to push myself with it either. That is what my Gaui is for. :thumbup:

Peter

[Gr4yb3ard]

That's how I feel about my 450 and 600, Maybe not so much a balls thing, as a wallet thing. I could'a bought a couple of 200's for what I munched in Align parts this month...

Food for thought.

Gr4yb3ard
"... Orville: You ready?... Wilbur: I'm fine, let's go!... Orville: Uh-Oh! the FAA want's to talk to you... Wilbur: D*mnation!!! <instinctively reaching for wallet>, blink-blink <recognition>, uh, Orville, Dad taught us not to curse, but you're still an *******!"..."

[J-Heli]

Maybe not so much a balls thing, as a wallet thing.

I don't have that problem quite yet :YeaBaby:.

[Gr4yb3ard]

Oh, for cryin' out loud, you should know better than to leave yourself open to the next wisecrack regarding that comment!

Good grief! Do I gotta give lessons???

Gr4yb3ard
"...no broadsides toward " 'de cuzz ", 'es one 'e us'ins now..."

[J-Heli]

Not the balls problem (I'm not lacking there ;) ) the wallet problem is what I was referring to. That's my parent's job.

[psindrup]

Not the balls problem (I'm not lacking there ;) ) the wallet problem is what I was referring to. That's my parent's job.

Your balls will soon be in your parents pockets (or worse places) if you keep spending their money on your heli(s) :rolling

Peter
Ball Less

[J-Heli]

Your balls will soon be in your parents pockets (or worse places)

I try not to think about that :cheers

if you keep spending their money on your heli(s) :rolling

Peter
Ball Less

It sounds a lot worse when you say it like that :)

[Hawk18052]

My Gaui is the only serious helicopter I've ever had, and I HATE to crash it. My other heli is a Blade CX2, on which I learned my orientations, but like you guys said, the Gaui is a very different bird. So I have a lot to learn. Currently I'm strictly tail-in, trying to hold a decent hover. Can't keep it in a five-foot circle yet, much less over a CD case, but I'm improving.

I was in my driveway yesterday, light breeze, and the heli rose over my head. This would have been okay, but just then an unexpected breeze pushed it behind me, and that was just disorienting enough that I zigged when I should have zagged and slammed it hard onto the concrete. It was my fault. Having it get behind me reversed the sticks, which I can handle just fine on the Blade but was too much too soon on this little bird that I can't even hover yet, especially because it was unexpected.

But I REALLY don't like it. Guys talk about the inevitability of crashing, but I'm reluctant to accept it. Years ago when I was training for my pilot's license, we NEVER talked about the inevitability of crashing. Crashing was not an option. We talked only about the possibility of it, then we applied ourselves methodically, systematically, slowly, carefully and trained incrementally to make sure we would never crash.

Same thing with a motorcycle. Crashing is not an option. So why should we accept crashing the little heli? Worse, why would we expect it? Why can't we be methodical? Why can't we stay focused? Why can't we stay within our realm of control?

Anyway, I'm sure I'm a little edgy about now, but that's my attitude, that's my goal. Master the helicopter. Don't crash. Not this heli, not any heli.


These things are not like a normal Heli, Just killed my Hurricane 550. It happens, name one person who didn't crash.

Hawk