can someone be honest?????

[matador_24]

Hi guys.... I am sorry about the topic.
The thing is that I have a raptor 30 v2, happy with it, but around here, lots of people have a sceadu 50 and the LHS carry all the spare parts, that is good. Personally I like the raptor, (I have never tried a sceadu I guess). Now I am thinking about getting a 50 size, options: RAPTOR 50 (either V2 or titan) or SCEADU 50....... I am starting to do some 3d so I want a heli that can be agressive, I know the raptor is but I don't know about the SCEADU, I guess that there is people in these forums who know and maybe have tried both. I would like to know your opinion in order to make my decision guys, I know that if you are reading this post is because you have a raptor or you like a raptor, hehe, try to be honest guyssssssss.....

[WillJames]

I have owned a few R50's and flown the Sceadu. They both fly well at the level you are describing you are at. Get the one that has the best parts support and the most people flying it at your field I would say... I think the Hirobo will cost a little more for the kit and crash parts, but not 100% sure about that.

[alienteabagger]

It is usually a good idea to buy what has the best parts support. That way, the day you smash it to pieces parts will be very easy to find. When I got mines I looked at alot of helis. From the Kyosho Nexus (very spotty parts support) to the Thunder Tigers (even my neighbors grandma sells parts for that) and a few other machines in between. Once I found several machines in my price range the decision was made mostly on parts availability and on that machines track record.

The Raptor .50 has been around a very long time. There are companies all over the place who make parts and upgrades for it. Just like in the 450 size electrics the T-Rex450 is the most common machine, the Raptor .50 is the most common machine in this size class.... At least thats how it seems in my corner of the planet.

[vandelescrow]

I agree with what has already been said on this subject, here are my two pennies:

For newbees I tell people to get what it being flown at your local field so when you have problems setting it up, you have instant help. You are obveously not a newbee so this is not an issue.

Parts support from your LHS. Yes it is nice having your LHS have the parts in stock you need at the time of a crash. However what I'm finding, the LHS is closed on Sunday and around 5 on Saturday. So, if the crash happens say at noon on Saturday. By the time you get the heli apart to find what all was damaged, you will probably have to wait till Monday when the LHS opens again. Granted ordering the parts on-line after 5pm on a Saturday, won't be shipped till Monday either so this is a toss up.

And like what other people mentioned, several companies make raptor parts and several new heli's are designed around the Raptor, so parts are going to be available for along time.

[Raptorman37]

a friend of mine used to fly Hirobo helis, he said the performance is the same as the Raptor, but the hirobo costs more. Personally, i've been to a few flying fields, and the one heli i always see is a Raptor. Be it V1 or V2 or any size.

[Raven_darkcloud]

Both ships fly good and get suported well. Hirobo parts cost more but are said to be higher quality (not owning one myself I dont know) Both have upgrade parts and aftermarket replacements ie: mavrik (raptor) and avant (hirobo) If hirobo is what your lhs has its a good way to stay flying, but if the raptor is what you realy want go for it. I dont think you will go wrong eather way.

[iher]

This might sound weird. but I have a Trex 450 SE, a Raptor 90 SE and an old Hirobo Shuttle Z (30) with some upgrades ( OS 46 CF blades and CF sideframes) all the rest is stock.
Can you guess wich of the 3 is the most responsive, stable and reliable. Yep the Shuttle flyes like a a bat out of hell.
Dont get me wrong the other two are great and fly beautifully, but consider the Shuttle is 15 years older.......I can only imagine that new Hirobo helis fly great.
my only regret is that finding spares is a nightmare. So I keep it for special ocasions. and thrash around the other 2 .

[Hulley]

I've had both, while I was waiting for my Vibe50 to come in I almost bought another Evo50. In fact I wouldnt mind having another Evo50 to practice new manuovers on instead of my prized Vibe! They both are great machines and are capable of most any move and are very durable. I thought the Hirobo was a higher quality but the Raptor was easier to work on. Ron's had the Evo50 w/blades for $350 last I checked! I would go with which ever has the best support in your area.

[tbirg]

I would definitely get whatever heli you can find parts for the easiest.

You would think living near one of the most populous spots in the US I would have hobby shops with heli parts all over the place. I dorked my Titan last weekend and I have wait on mail order for the parts to come in. One local shop (about an hour away) stocks parts for the 30/50 but not the Titan :(. The next closest shop with everything is 1-1/2 hrs away.

I hate to admit it but the best .50 heli I have flown has to be the TRex 600N. It's amazing how much better it flies than my Rappy. I have the same motor, servos, gyro in both and the Rex blows the doors off the Titan. I guess a 1lb less of weight and CCPM does that to ya. Certain parts on the Rex are cheaper and others are way more expensive(frames).

Over the years I have owned several Rappys(30 v1, 50v1, 60). After my last crash I was seriously thinking of ditching the Titan and buying another Rex. The only thing that stopped me was the cost. It was like $150 in parts for the Titan or $500 for a new Rex.

[matador_24]

yes, well, finally happened, I was flying inverted with my raptor 30 v2, OS 32SXH and well, flying low and the OS 32 doesn't have that much power and a miscalculated altitude to flip back to normal position and zas! straight to the ground!!!! I attached the picture, I even lost my 100dlls Rx!!!!! AR7000, grrrrrrrrrrrrr, but it's ok, my mistake, I should have been higher.... anyway,

I like the raptors, the design, canopy and well, I get the spare parts out from www.helikraft.com and the prices are great!!! I even lost the muffler, so, to fix it, it would cost me about 170dlls, I am considering now getting something with more power, I would keep the raptor 30 to fit in a fuselage and fly around some day I have money to fix it too (in case a get a 50 size)....

I live in canada, I order all my spare parts to the US or Asia, so, if you don't think about parts availability? what's better???? RAPTOR 50, SCEADU 50 or T-REX600????

Hard to choose, ehhhh

[forjer]

Wow...that's harsh. If the Raptor is salvageable, you might wanna just wait for the 700N as you can convert your 30 to a 50 for the cost of an engine (200), pipe (40-90), and the 50 conversion (100).

As far as which one of those three (RAPTOR 50, SCEADU 50 or T-REX600) fly better, I can't help you there. If you're gonna buy one of them, everyone seems to say that you'll be better off getting one that your LHS supports and preferably one that other club members have.

[matador_24]

thankssssssssss, as I mentioned, I don't really rely on my LHS, I order everything on line, way cheaper and I can wait some days to receive the order.... :O)

[Raptorman37]

depends on what your doing, my friend has 2 t-rex 600's. they look like nice flying machines. how good at flying are you? if you find the 30 cant keep up(with a .32 thats not a hard engine to overload) move up to a 50, the hirobo is more expensive, and from what I'm told, flies like a Raptor. There is also the new T-rex 700 coming out, however the cost is much higher(need good servos, a governor is recommended) also consider the cost of maintenance/operation(fuel usage, crash parts). I would do a Raptor 50 Titan personally, but im a Raptor guy, the T-rex 600 Nitro Super Pro would be my next choice.
It's up to what you want, and how much help you can get at your field.

[Raven_darkcloud]

I say convert that 30 to a 50. It will lower the cost of getting a 50. Get the conversion kit, a 50 engine (alot of them for sale in the forsale section), and the needed spares. I have flown rappies and 600's and cant say one flys better they just fly differant. The raptor is more solid and the 600 is snapy so it is down to flying style.

[Scooterpilot]

I’ve owned all three models. I’ve sold the Raptors and kept my Evo 50 and Trex600N.

Raptor versus Evo. Raptor flips and rolls quicker than an Evo. The Evo tracks better in upright and inverted flight. Evo doesn’t flip and roll as quick at the Raptor. Parts are cheaper on the Raptor but the quality is not as good as the Evo.

600N flips and rolls like a Raptor and tracks upright and inverted like an Evo. Parts are cheap and again the quality is not as good as EVO. For full up 3D, the 600N has both the Raptor and Evo beat. I have about 60 flights on my 600 and I can tell I will need to replace the swash and few other items soon. Oh, almost forgot, one other thing the 600N is lighter than both the Raptor and Evo and has more hang time while doing autos.

Lastly, Raptor has gone from V1 to V2 without really making any major design changes. It would be nice to see TT incorporate a tork tube driven tail for their .50 models and adjustable mixing ratios on their rotor head. A more robust clutch and removable bearing blocks would be nice. IMHO, their design is behind the times especially compared to the 600N.