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Finless
05-07-2008, 02:00 PM
OK Helifreak user mikef had posted about this home made optical tach some time ago. Many asked for plans and instructions for how to make one. Mike has now made that available for download here on Helifreak.

I myself have not built this myself but looking at the plans / design it looks very sound. It works just like many RC Heli tachs where you look through a view finder and adjust until you see the blades stop. This is a PROPER heli tach design not a airplane prop tach design.

Mike agreed to answer any questions you all have on the design or building it.

Thanks Mike! You Rock!

Here is the link to download the plans and code.

NEW FILE UPDATED 6/6/2008
Download Link -> RC Heli Tach (1 Megs) (http://video.helifreak.com/?subpath=finless&filename=helitach.zip)


Bob

TheBum
05-07-2008, 02:36 PM
I agree that the concept is sound and, being an EE by degree and a software engineer by trade, I don't see any glaring errors. It's pretty ambitious, though, meaning that I probably couldn't make the time to build one.

HFG
05-07-2008, 02:47 PM
Nice idea ! BTW i doubt many people have or have access to a PIC programmer however i have found an easy and CHEAP solution. RCD PIC programmer (Google it) only uses passive parts and costs about $10 to make. Here is the one i throw together (yes iam aware its very ugly but it works).

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/hfguy/DSC00903.jpg?t=1210186006
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j159/hfguy/DSC00904.jpg?t=1210186023

LITHIUMSTATIC
05-07-2008, 03:04 PM
:noteworthy

HELINHAWAII
05-07-2008, 03:28 PM
Would Mike or anyone else be willing to pre-program the PIC Micro Chip and mail out to us Freakers? For a fee of course...say $8-12 with chip and shipping.

I would really like to build one of these as I'm always looking for a project. However, buying a programmer seems to kill the cost benefit of buying a tach outright. Plus, I have no use for the programmer afterwards.

TheBum
05-07-2008, 03:35 PM
BTW i doubt many people have or have access to a PIC programmer however i have found an easy and CHEAP solution. RCD PIC programmer (Google it) only uses passive parts and costs about $10 to make. Here is the one i throw together (yes iam aware its very ugly but it works).
Is this it? It looks like the parts count is about the same. I agree with your $10 assessment.

http://feng3.cool.ne.jp/en/rcd.html

HELINHAWAII
05-07-2008, 03:42 PM
Nice idea ! BTW i doubt many people have or have access to a PIC programmer however i have found an easy and CHEAP solution. RCD PIC programmer (Google it) only uses passive parts and costs about $10 to make. Here is the one i throw together (yes iam aware its very ugly but it works).

Great idea...but I'm stupid when it comes to any programming type stuff. Is the code for the chip hard to write?

HFG
05-07-2008, 03:52 PM
Yes thats the RCD programmer i used. Nice thing about it is that it generates the 12V required to program the PIC directly from the serial port. Jesse there is NO reason to write any code. Inside the files provided by MikeF is a file called TACH.HEX. The hex file is what you program to the PIC.

Programming a PIC is its MAJOR disadvantage for hobby use IMO. This is why i have started using Atmel controllers which you can use USB to program them.

HELINHAWAII
05-07-2008, 03:59 PM
Yes thats the RCD programmer i used. Nice thing about it is that it generates the 12V required to program the PIC directly from the serial port. Jesse there is NO reason to write any code. Inside the files provided by MikeF is a file called TACH.HEX. The hex file is what you program to the PIC.

Programming a PIC is its MAJOR disadvantage for hobby use IMO. This is why i have started using Atmel controllers which you can use USB to program them.

Ohhhh yeeeaaah, :hammer It's still early here in HI and I worked late last night. I got so excited, I didn't look at the rest of the files in the zip. Thanks man! But still, rather than build a programmer too, I'd rather just buy a chip from someone if at all possible...

mikef
05-07-2008, 04:32 PM
I would be willing to program the chip for you freaks if you have no way of doing it yourself. You guys buy your own chip and just mail it to me. I would program it for free and you just cover the cost of all shipping. I will test it before I send it back. I would think you could ship this via US postal for $1 or less? How does that sound? You can PM me or email me when you get your chip and I will send you my address. ZIP is 48453 if you guys want to calculate shipping. That $10 programmer looks pretty cool HFG. I might build one just to have an extra programmer around.

I also apologize for the half year it took to get this info out. I get side tracked easily and have multi projects going all the time….. If you guys have trouble with the write-up please let me know. I wrote it from memory and it could have typos (I hope not however). Also if anyone has a suggestion for improvement let me know and I would gladly add it to the write-up. The code I used was just what I came up with and since I am not an expert programmer, there might be a better way. So far the prototype is still working fine. (Rond is the current owner).

Thanks,

Mike

HELINHAWAII
05-07-2008, 04:44 PM
You got it Mike. I'm placing my order for parts today! Thanks man!

rond
05-07-2008, 10:29 PM
This tach works awesome. Mike calibrated it for a range of up to just over 4,000 rpm!! The first time I took it out at the field and used it on my T-Rex 450 V2, one of the guys with his new MinAir 3000 rpm heli tach still couldn't get my Rexy, but this one locked it in easily.

This is not the only cool thing Mike has made either, he has a shop full of cool stuff like this, not to mention an awesome altimeter. Look at post number 27 of this thread

http://www.helifreak.com/showthread.php?t=61615&page=3

for a pic of the altimeter that was actually made by mikef and flown by me and Jason.

Ron

HFG
05-07-2008, 10:49 PM
Nice to see there is some interest in DIY electronics.... its inspiring :bad

jared_of_atlanta
05-08-2008, 11:27 AM
Ok I think I'm going to have a go at this. Should be fun.

heliphil
05-08-2008, 11:36 AM
The circuit for the hold button is missing!!!!

Finless
05-08-2008, 11:46 AM
Yep it sure is... It doesn't show you where the memory button should hook to on the PIC.

Mike?

Bob

mikef
05-08-2008, 12:04 PM
I am at work right now but when I get home today I will check that out. It just connects to one of the pins on the PIC chip.

HFG
05-08-2008, 12:18 PM
Looks like Pin 15 on the photo (don't feel like following your ASM code). Should just be a button and a pull up resistor (this goes from the pin to VDD).

HELINHAWAII
05-08-2008, 01:58 PM
I'm having trouble finding a 2.5K Ohm precision pot. Will any 10 turn pot do?

HFG
05-08-2008, 02:05 PM
Dont think i have EVER heard of a precision pot :) More turns the better. a 20 or 25 turn pot will work, its just a voltage divider.

TheBum
05-08-2008, 02:06 PM
I'm having trouble finding a 2.5K Ohm precision pot. Will any 10 turn pot do?

It should. I'd make sure to mount it sideways or drill an access hole so that it can be adjusted without removing anything from the case.

HFG
05-08-2008, 02:08 PM
Panel mount pot is what you really want.

jared_of_atlanta
05-08-2008, 02:09 PM
It would be sweet if you would post links to all the parts your finding.

HFG
05-08-2008, 02:16 PM
Mike You might want to be clear about the pot taper... linear ?

Finless
05-08-2008, 02:18 PM
I would think linear taper as an audio tapered pot would suck in this application I would think.

Bob