View Full Version : Hyperion Duo or Cellpro 10s
MaSt0RaS
05-08-2008, 05:16 AM
I am in dilllema which of 2 chargers to buy??
i have a450 se v2 i just ordered it i dont have it:P:P
pls help in this buy
THANK YOU
MaSt0RaS
05-08-2008, 03:59 PM
more votes pls???
Smiky
05-08-2008, 07:07 PM
It's an easy decision to make, if you can afford the DUO get one, if not go for the Cellpro.
Mike
MaSt0RaS
05-08-2008, 08:33 PM
its only 80$ the difference...
Smiky
05-08-2008, 11:21 PM
its only 80$ the difference...
Then you've answered your own question, get the DUO.
Mike
MaSt0RaS
05-09-2008, 04:50 AM
Then you've answered your own question, get the DUO.
Mike
and what is better to this charger i will never use it to charge 2X6s batteries whats another advantage?
And if i take tha duo a 20 A power supply is good or it wants more?
Smiky
05-10-2008, 10:15 AM
The DUO can charge any two packs at the same time, it doesn't matter what capacity, state of charge or Voltage (up to 6s per Port). It's also Multi Chemistry so you can charge your Transmitter battery and 12 Volt battery with the DUO.
The Cellpro can't match that as it's just a 10s charger that's been 'fudged' to charge 2 packs at once with limitations. Packs have to be started and stopped at the same time or you have to manually stop the charger, remove the charged pack and then restart the Cellpro (loosing at the stored data in the process). You can only charge at one rate for both packs where as the DUO allows you to set different charge rates for each pack.
Sounds like you need to do some homework and read the documentation for both chargers then decide which one suits your needs best. One mans meat is another mans poison.
Mike
Flybar-less2
05-14-2008, 01:03 PM
Different Chargers.
The Duo is a great choice for 6S and smaller batteries. The Cellpro 10S does charge 2 seperate packs well, they have to start and finish at the same time. I charge 4 2S packs simultainiously with the Cellpro 10S. It could be set up to charge 3 3S packs simultainiously through the balance port at 4amps. It can charge soley through the balance port at 4 amps, so it has some flexibility on charging multiple batteries that other chargers don't.
The critical choice is do you want a charger that can charge 8S or 10S packs. This is something the Duo cannot do.
helicraze
05-15-2008, 09:06 AM
With the duo at full power if 13.8VDC you need about 23A, better use 24VDC supply with less amp, more efficient
astroflyer
05-15-2008, 01:53 PM
The DUO can charge any two packs at the same time, it doesn't matter what capacity, state of charge or Voltage (up to 6s per Port). It's also Multi Chemistry so you can charge your Transmitter battery and 12 Volt battery with the DUO.
The Cellpro can't match that as it's just a 10s charger that's been 'fudged' to charge 2 packs at once with limitations. Packs have to be started and stopped at the same time or you have to manually stop the charger, remove the charged pack and then restart the Cellpro (loosing at the stored data in the process). You can only charge at one rate for both packs where as the DUO allows you to set different charge rates for each pack.
All true, but the deciding factor for me is that the cellpro charges and balances each cell individually. the DUO does not. I'm through with balancers that discharge one or two cells while the other cell/cells catch up.
also I have two cellpro 4's which have been bulletproof.
Trizz
05-15-2008, 02:05 PM
cellpro 10s
MaSt0RaS
05-15-2008, 03:21 PM
can i ask something else..? with the kong power can i charge 2 different 3s batteries???
astroflyer
05-15-2008, 03:35 PM
from the kong power charger manual
"KP-100W6 Intelligent Pulse Charger allows you to charge either two 3S packs, or three 2S packs as a single 6S pack, if and only if the packs have identical capacity and the voltage between cells are not significantly imbalanced "
This looks to me like only identical cell count and similar voltage. I take this to mean two packs that have been discharged to a different level (different voltage) cannot be charged, probably because unlike the cellpro the balancer does not balance cells individually.
reading that during my research immediately meant for me no further looking at that charger.
the cellpro can charge two packs of differing cell numbers (one 3cell and one 2 cell for instance) at the same time and they can be at different states of discharge.
MaSt0RaS
05-15-2008, 04:35 PM
ok but it is very expensive and especially for greece that if i buy the combo with power supply i will give 300+40shipment+100 fees unfortunately....and the KP i dont have fees beacause a take a minimum invoice ammount FMA cannot do that....
when i buy batteries i will buy them as pairs...:P
Do you know any shop i can find fma excpet the www.fmadirect.com
helicraze
05-15-2008, 06:40 PM
Charging each cell individually is not really any benifit, imagine pumping 10A through those little balance lead!
There is nothing wrong with charging the whole packs and bleeding off the voltage of the cells with more charge.
astroflyer
05-15-2008, 07:40 PM
The cellpro doesn't pump 10 amp through those little leads. It has a second set of leads used in conjunction with those little leads for high amperage charging.
astroflyer
05-15-2008, 07:41 PM
ok but it is very expensive and especially for greece that if i buy the combo with power supply i will give 300+40shipment+100 fees unfortunately....and the KP i dont have fees beacause a take a minimum invoice ammount FMA cannot do that....
when i buy batteries i will buy them as pairs...:P
Do you know any shop i can find fma excpet the www.fmadirect.com (http://www.fmadirect.com)
understand completely. I think the cellpro is sold only tnhrough FMA.
helicraze
05-15-2008, 09:02 PM
"All true, but the deciding factor for me is that the cellpro charges and balances each cell individually. the DUO does not. I'm through with balancers that discharge one or two cells while the other cell/cells catch up."
So is it charging through the balance leads or not? It either is or isn't
astroflyer
05-15-2008, 09:09 PM
Below 4 amps through the balance leads. above 4 amps through BOTH the balance leads and the other set of leads COMBINED.
blueviewlaguna
05-17-2008, 01:19 AM
All true, but the deciding factor for me is that the cellpro charges and balances each cell individually. the DUO does not. I'm through with balancers that discharge one or two cells while the other cell/cells catch up.
also I have two cellpro 4's which have been bulletproof.
Exactly! - I just bought my second 10S, updated the software (they keep adding features) and am very pleased with them. Any batteries that need true "charge" balancing (as opposed to "bleed" or "discharge") get put on my Cellpro's.
helicraze
05-18-2008, 03:29 AM
I thought it didn't matter if you bleed balancer or balance charge them. Which manufacturers require to be truly balance charged?
blueviewlaguna
05-18-2008, 10:04 AM
I thought it didn't matter if you bleed balancer or balance charge them. Which manufacturers require to be truly balance charged?
The issue with bleed balancing is when a large capacity battery has a low cell (but still servicable IE 0.03 volts). Under those conditions, even my 500ma bleed rate balancer (one of the highest capacities) gets very hot and limits the charge current, thus slowing the charge. As batteries age, they will typically require more balancing.
heli400
05-19-2008, 03:23 PM
Does the CellPro 10s charge (2) 6s 2600 batteries at the same time?
Flybar-less
05-21-2008, 10:42 AM
no
heli400
05-21-2008, 03:51 PM
Thanks!
I guess it's the Hyperion Duo. Who has the best price?